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Uhhh, YEAH JOIN the NRA
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Has the myth finally been debunked, that a good guy with a gun saves lives?

Hello:

Furtively, speaking in a whisper, a fourth-grade girl dialed the police. Around her, in Room 112 at Robb Elementary School, were the motionless bodies of her classmates and scores of spent bullet casings fired by a gunman who had already been inside the school for half an hour.


She whispered to a 911 operator, just after noon, that she was in the classroom with the gunman. She called back again. And again. “Please send the police now,” she begged.


But they were already there, WAITING in the hallway just outside her classroom. 

excon

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In the case you site, a guy with a gun literally saved the rest of the kids. Without him, the rest of them die. A group of non-responding morons doesn't erase that fact. Are you fucking stupid?

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During WW1 the Germans described the British troops as lions being led by donkeys.

In this dreadful Texas atrocity it seems to be a case of donkeys being led by donkeys.

I'm waiting for afresh news bulletin explaining how the rescue team of yellow-bellied brainless shitbags didn't want to enter the classroom where the gunman was murdering children at will, because they had ordered a carry-out from Mc Donald's and thought they'd wait until it was safely delivered so they could have a PIG-IN before attempting to save the surviving pupils and recover the dead bodies of the slaughtered children.

This unequalled tragic fiasco is an indictment on Texas, the police and indeed the whole of America.

AMERICA, HANG YOUR HEAD IN SHAME.

What manner of group-filth, armed to the teeth with modern weaponry and wearing state of the art body armour would stand outside a classroom quivering in fear and soiling their undergarments while defenceless children children were being shot dead on the other side of the classroom door by a LONE crazed killer?

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1 point

The left said defund the police. This is what that ingenius idea would have given us nationwide. And in the Texas school case, every kid in there dies without police or guns. I think the left needs to get the hell out of the way and let the sane people run this country.

Side: Uhhh, YEAH
excon(18262) Disputed
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The left said defund the police. This is what that ingenius idea would have given us nationwide.

Hello I:

So, Texas defunded the police, and that's why 19 kids were murdered???

Texas? TEXAS??? Really?

excon

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Developing(494) Disputed
1 point

Excon, do you recognize that the left has supported Defund the Police? What are your thoughts on that? Conservatives support our police.

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BrontoLite(759) Disputed
1 point

Took purpose, meaning and God out of America, eh Con? Looks like it's working out great. I'll definitely be following the libs for more creative ideas and recipes.

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1 point

'This is why we need the 2nd amendment!' West Virginia mystery woman is hailed as a hero for using legally-owned pistol to kill criminal armed with an AR-15-style rifle at a graduation party a day after Uvalde school shooting"

- The unidentified woman shot and killed Dennis Butler on Wednesday in Charleston, West Virginia

- He showed up to a graduation party at the Vista View Apartment Complex

- Butler, a 37-year-old convicted felon, had an 'AR-style assault rifle'

- It's unclear what his motive was or if he even knew anyone at the event

- He started shooting then the woman pulled her gun out, according to police

- The incident went largely unnoticed in the wave of stories about Uvalde in Texas where a gunman slaughtered 19 kids and two teachers

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10865783/West-Virginia-woman-praised-using-pistol-shoot-dead-gunman-AR-15.html

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1 point

In the end, the bad guy was shot and killed by someone who is apparently not a good guy with a gun.

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excon(18262) Disputed
1 point

In the end, the bad guy was shot and killed by someone who is apparently not a good guy with a gun.

Hello A:

I'm not sure if I'd call the cops who HID in the hallway while children were being murdered, good guys..

I just wouldn't..

excon

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Taboo(79) Disputed
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Let me know which piece of this confuses you. If you don't protect the kids, you aren't a good guy with a gun. The person who killed the shooter was a good guy with a gun. You're not going to post your solution that leaves out the good guy with the gun because you're either a dumbass or an evil piece of shit. Maybe both.

Side: Uhhh, YEAH
Amarel(5669) Clarified
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You're witnessing a mass shooting and you're not calling the cops. Ok. What are you doing then?

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2 points

The agents were part of a team that fatally shot the gunman, ending an attack

Good guys with guns killed the shooter. How did you plan to stop him? Give him roses?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/05/27/us/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting- friday/index.html

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1 point

What an epic self own.

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1 point

Basic Algebra: If Good Guy number 1 doesn't shoot the killer, but good guy number 2 does shoot the killer, that equals a good guy shooting the killer with a gun.

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excon(18262) Disputed
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Basic Algebra: If Good Guy number 1 doesn't shoot the killer, but good guy number 2 does shoot the killer, that equals a good guy shooting the killer with a gun.

Hello:

But, where do you subtract 19 murdered children??

excon

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Developing(494) Disputed
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Hey Excon, your thoughts?

"Border Patrol Agent Who Killed Texas School Shooter Was From Agency’s Elite Team

Three officers who confronted Salvador Ramos belong to Bortac, a highly trained squad who are among a contingent of border agents who work in Uvalde"

https://www.wsj.com/articles/border-patrol-agents-who-killed-texas-school-shooter-were-from-agencys-elite-team-11653508857

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Taboo(79) Disputed
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I don't subtract 19 children. I subtract that every kid in there dies without those who used guns to kill the shooter. You wanna take "good guys'" guns, so give us your plan to keep those kids from being murdered.

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Republicans have requested locks on doors and security at schools for years. Looks like the left owns another death per its incessant stupidity.

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excon(18262) Disputed
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Republicans have requested locks on doors and security at schools for years.

Hello S:

Requested?? REQUESTED????? Dude.. This is Texas where Republicans control everything.. If they really WANTED locks on doors, it coulda been done in a month..

excon

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Developing(494) Disputed
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Excon, the Democrats central the Congress, Senate and Presidency. Look at how bad things are currently in our country. Do you recognize that Democrats have FAILED?!?

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Taboo(79) Disputed
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Requested?? REQUESTED????? Dude.. This is Texas where Republicans control everything.. If they really WANTED locks on doors, it coulda been done in a month..

They can't without some Democrats on board. There are no locks because of your party. Deal with it, or change parties.

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PorksNBeans(80) Disputed
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The Democrats control everything in the deadliest, most homelessness, most expensive parts of America.Chicago has the strictest gun laws in America and the most gun deaths. Point?

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Norwich(1576) Disputed
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@ Snow11;- It would take a lot more than locks on doors to stop a well armed maniac gaining access to his quarry.

Clearly the police and security staff were poorly trained and the wrong personnel, including their leader(s) were included in the rescue team.

I certainly haven't the answer as how to best respond to such heart-breaking events in my back pocket but each precinct should have a *specialist, highly trained RAPID RESPONSE TEAM of hand picked, psychologically profiled officers that will snap into decisive and effective action immediately the red light flashes.

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Has the myth finally been debunked, that a good guy with a gun saves lives?

Hello people:

I'm getting the weirdest feeling, that the right wingers here are saying that even though 19 cops HID in the hallway for an hour while children were being murdered, if ONE cop finally does his duty and kills the bad guy, that's all the proof we need that the cops are the good guys.

Nope! I just wouldn't say that..

excon

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Taboo(79) Disputed
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No one has said that. No one on Earth pretends all cops are good. You are deflecting to a strawman because you can't figure out any other way to protect kids other than some good guy with a gun doing something. You haven't listed how to do it without the "good guy with a gun" because you wanna pretend magic answers exist within feelings and intentions instead of using your brain. 19 cops were cowards. Getting rid of "good guys with guns" would have just stopped the 20th law enforcement officer from protecting the rest of the kids. The fact that basic common sense doesn't penetrate your brain is mind numbing and sickening to entertain.

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Has the myth finally been debunked, that a good guy with a gun saves lives?

No. Everyone buy another gun and more amunition. Rich politicians never have your best interest in mind.

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