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Yes.. We'll NEVER be the same Trump can do no wrong
Debate Score:36
Arguments:47
Total Votes:39
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Have we FAILED in ALL respects under this Acting President?

Hello:

We once were:

A country that turned out eight combat aircraft every hour at the peak of World War II, who today could not even produce enough 75-cent masks or simple cotton nasal swabs for testing in this pandemic.


A country that showed the world how to defeat polio now promotes quack remedies involving household disinfectants from the presidential podium.


A country that rescued postwar Europe with the Marshall Plan who’s leader. didn’t even bother to show up this week at the teleconference of global leaders pledging contributions for a coronavirus vaccine.

A country that could feed its people, yet today thousands wait in lines at food banks while farmers flush milk down the drain and plow their crops under.

All, because Trump failed us.. We need that country back.

excon

Yes.. We'll NEVER be the same

Side Score: 27
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Trump can do no wrong

Side Score: 9
2 points

Hello:

Yes, I have a plan..

A restaurant can't survive on 50pacity even IF they get back 50% of the market, which I suggest won't happen anytime soon. So, MORE restaurants will close, MORE farmers will go broke, and MORE people will line up at the food banks..

If, however, phase 4 included a restaurant bail out, then we get a three-fer.. People won't have to go to food banks, farmers can sell their goods, and restaurant workers can keep their jobs.

For me, I'd rather subsidize my local restaurant than Wall Street.

You're welcome.

excon

Side: Yes.. We'll NEVER be the same
NigerInnis(11) Disputed
1 point

For me, I'd rather subsidize my local restaurant

Your party wants to keep them shut down because it believes math is a myth.

For me, I'd rather subsidize my local restaurant than Wall Street.

Restaurants are a part of Wall Street.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
2 points

Some are, most aren't - especially "local" restaurants.

Side: Yes.. We'll NEVER be the same

A country that turned out eight combat aircraft every hour

The most aircraft carriers in the US Navy at one time during WW2 was 27. It takes years to build one.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnitedStatesNavyinWorldWarII

Side: Trump can do no wrong
1 point

Have we FAILED in ALL respects under this Acting President?

Before the pandemic, unemployment was at a record low, , the market was at record highs and is still currently, 6,000 points higher than Obama's highest. We also got the criminal reform that the left cried for for decades but never cared enough about to actually put in place. If all we had was actions, no media spin, no audio, and no visiual of Trump or Obama, you'd be praising Trump, and we both know it. And you'd be praising him because you wouldn't assume the media is a propaganda machine and that a Republican got criminal reform. You'll be getting four more years. You're welcome.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
1 point

Before the pandemic, unemployment was at a record low, , the market was at record highs and is still currently, 6,000 points higher than Obama's highest.

Wait... So you're admitting that Trump destroyed his own gains by being arrogant enough to believe he knew better than the stream of health experts warning him to take action against the possibility of a pandemic?

Why would anybody even care what happened "before" the pandemic? Before World War 2 German unemployment was at a record low and their economy was surging, so are we to take from this that you want us to vote for Hitler?

Also, you promised Andy you would leave. Why are you still here?

Oh, that's right. It's because you are a liar. A liar is what you are and a liar is all that you are.

Side: Yes.. We'll NEVER be the same
1 point

Trump didn't destroy anything. No one on the Left would have done better than Trump's done. The left would still have free travel from Europe and China and encourage one and all to pour across our borders to get on gov't dole and become wards of the State. And, I might add, bring their diseases with them.

What your side wants to do is kill the host to save it from the disease. Not too practical in my book. Hiding is not going to get rid of the Wuhan virus. It's like closing your eyes, hiding under the blanket in hopes it won't see you and go away. It will still be there; we have to learn to live with it.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
1 point

"the criminal reform that the left cried for"

Trump was the main reason this didn't pass years ago.

He was trying to mimic Richard Nixon running on law and order and scared the Republican caucus enough that McConnell wouldn't even bring the bill up for a vote - knowing that it would have passed. ref ref

48 Republicans voted against the bill: ref ref

Trump had nothing in his campaign about criminal justice reform ref and was heading towards more incarceration ref ref

Once he knew it was going to pass with or without him, he decided to support it so he could take credit.

I'm glad he signed it (it passed with enough votes to override a veto if he didn't), but he doesn't exactly deserve credit for it happening.

Side: Yes.. We'll NEVER be the same
1 point

Forcing the middle-class to borrow money and give it to the rich might have propped up the economy in the short-term and may be your idea of a great policy, but it isn't mine...

Side: Yes.. We'll NEVER be the same
1 point

You Whining Black Jew Democrat you should amendment the 15th Amendment or STFU!

All you Socialist that want to live in your Utopia do nothing but complain each and every day.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
JustIgnoreMe(4061) Clarified
1 point

the 15th Amendment

Ha! always good for a chuckle, aren't ya

Side: Yes.. We'll NEVER be the same

We failed MISERABLY with this pandemic. We weren’t doing too bad until. We could have used our Information technology WAY BETTER. Goes to show - Democracy (idiocracy) is way too SLOW for the speed of current world. Too much LAG TIME.....

Side: Trump can do no wrong

You failed way before Trump otherwise he would and could never have been elected in the first place.

I personally noticed what a quagmire of stupidity America had become after the 9/11 con job, but I'd bet good money it started way before that, and probably before my lifetime.

What annoys me though are people like you, who are actively contributing to the problems yet believe yourself to have the moral high ground. The moment somebody questions your false claims of war valor and/or Jewishness you regress into the exact same lying piece of shit you like to spend your days criticising.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
0 points

We once were:

A country that turned out eight combat aircraft every hour at the peak of World War II

And then Obama depleted the military as if he hates America or has no functioning brain. Probably both..

who today could not even produce enough 75-cent masks or simple cotton nasal swabs for testing in this pandemic.

We have read the stories about the CDC asking Obama for masks and equipment where he ignored their calls while the lapdog, bootlicking media had little interest.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
1 point

And then Obama depleted the military

You don't need to churn out eight combat aircraft an hour during times of peace you partisan clown.

We have read the stories about the CDC asking Obama

You know, this is exactly the type of unhinged madness I'm talking about which plagues you and the rest of your far right ideologues. An absolute, subliminal refusal to address criticism. Whenever anybody criticises anything Trump, the Republicans or the right has done, your first, immediate and only reaction is to attack Obama, the left, Dems, Commies or the CDC. It's pathetic and illustrates a complete lack of an honest and/or coherent thought process. Your intention has always been to devolve politics into an infantile tit-for-tat and your loyalty has only ever been to yourself, never to the general public or the greater good.

Side: Yes.. We'll NEVER be the same
Mint_tea(4231) Disputed
1 point

We have read the stories about the CDC asking Obama for masks and equipment where he ignored their calls while the lapdog, bootlicking media had little interest.

Wait wait....is Obama the president during this pandemic? Hmmmmmmmm

Side: Yes.. We'll NEVER be the same

Wait wait....is Obama the president during this pandemic? Hmmmmmmmm

This is exactly my point. They will (i.e. the alt-reich) tirelessly deflect relevant criticism of current policy by attacking someone who has nothing to do with current events. At absolute best this is an appeal to the two wrongs make a right fallacy, but most of the time they deflect to a misrepresentation anyway, which just makes it even worse.

Side: Yes.. We'll NEVER be the same
Chinaman(2915) Clarified
1 point

Oh there was no pandemic under the Obama ? H1N1 does not ring a bell for your stupid ?

Side: Yes.. We'll NEVER be the same