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Have you applied some of the views on CD for your job or study?
It is very difficult to find somebody here who has "views" as opposed to a bias. The difference isn't always apparent, but people who have views are able to defend them against scrutiny. People who have a bias are not. They will ultimately end up abusing logic or contradicting themselves in hope of preserving the bias.
The difference between views and bias can often seem subtle in practice if you don't know what you are looking for, but views are obtained after one has analysed something critically and bias is obtained before that.
No' If I applied Nom's veiw of slandering people and acting hypocritical when they do it to him, I would be arrested, or sued.
You might as well stick to using the same account Dana. There's no mistaking you because I just watch out for the posts which look like they have been written by a three year old.
Most of the "views" here are communistic, racial, Trumpist, capitalistic, anti-democratic, or religious. I would have no wish to apply any of them to anything but study. We need to learn about or experience them to know how to control them. Right now, all of them are out of control.
Most of the "views" here are communistic, racial, Trumpist, capitalistic, anti-democratic, or religious.
But you yourself are a raging capitalist who still lives inside the fairy tale that, if we put restrictions on capitalism, it will stop behaving like capitalism.
I would say a "raging capitalist" would be one that wants unbridled capitalism, wouldn't you? Really? I'm neither a raging capitalist nor a raging socialist! If I am, YOU are a raging communist.
Look. We disagree, as do most people in the world about some things. I disagree that everything YOU want is the best way .... the ONLY way to go. I disagree that everything YOU say is correct. We have HAD restrictions on capitalism for YEARS, they're called "regulations"! They did NOT cause capitalism to stop behaving like capitalism. They just forced capitalists to spend a LOT of money allowing themselves to get closer to man oligarchy! WE .... are not the "smartest people in the world", and YOU are part of WE! If you think you are, um...., What was that you said about a "fairy-tale"?? ;-)
I would say a "raging capitalist" would be one that wants unbridled capitalism, wouldn't you? Really?
Not at all brother. If capitalism doesn't work then capitalism doesn't work, and if it needs to be "bridled" then it doesn't work. You can't have it both ways. In no other facet of life do human beings believe we have reached the ultimate pinnacle of evolution and should therefore stop looking for better ways of doing things. You can't seriously tell me that there is no better way of doing things than a system in which 9 million people starve to death every year. That's rubbish.
We have HAD restrictions on capitalism for YEARS, they're called "regulations"!
And as I've already said, if you need to "regulate" capitalism then capitalism doesn't work. Capitalism leads to 2008 where everybody loses their homes and their jobs. Regulated capitalism leads to 2008 a bit slower, so hopefully you've forgotten about the last 2008 when we inevitably reach it again.
What more proof do you need of the ineffectiveness of capitalism than the fact that, in the wealthiest capitalist country on the planet, there are 35 million people who do not even have enough food to eat? That's not progress. Millions of people were starving before capitalism.
If you believe for one moment that capitalists would ever consider leaving Communism alone to flourish you're even more stupid than I gave you credit for. Look at the historical record and get your silly nose away from American propaganda. Russia was blockaded by the west almost immediately following the Russian revolution. It was fighting an internal civil war and an external war against the capitalist economies. And you want to sit there sneering like Marxism ever got a fair shout?
I noticed that "historical record" was for the year 2020. You may have noticed that for 4 years we have been under a dictator wannabe and our quality of life has taken a nosedive. I won't call you stupid, but, I'll still disagree with you on this. WE are fighting an internal civil war at the moment. That won't make me stupid enough to want to run to an oligarchy like Russia and it won't change my mind about democracy .... nor will you. There certainly is evidence that one of us is stupid, or at least THINKS that way about politics. I'm sure we disagree there too. ;-)
I noticed that "historical record" was for the year 2020.
There's no "historical record" of Communism you idiot. Any genuine Communist economies which emerged were quickly and aggressively destroyed by the American military, American economic sanctions or American trade embargos. Exactly like YOUR country has been doing to Iran for the past 30 years. When you refuse to obey the United States, the United States uses force, like imperialist regimes have always done. Check the historical record on THAT you dimwit. The table I showed you merely illustrates how countries with heavy socialist policies dominate the top positions on the global quality of life index, and the ones like the United States which offer little or no socialist policies, sit much further down the table.
You may have noticed that for 4 years we have been under a dictator wannabe and our quality of life has taken a nosedive.
It's BECAUSE of the stupid shit you idiots believe after a century's worth of anti-Communist propaganda that he was ever able to attain power in the first place. Your country has been absolutely SATURATED with religion, right wing political propaganda and corporate sponsored bullshit, to the point that you literally do not know up from down or left from right. You are stuck in a perpetual circle where you know your country is fucked, but you are unable to ever fix it because you have all been brainwashed to such an extent that you refuse to accept the real problems. Problems like the well-documented link between crime and poverty, and the equally well-documented link between capitalism and gross financial inequality.
It is not a matter of disagreeing. It is a matter of you growing up in a bubble of anti-left wing propaganda and bias the likes of which the world has never seen before.
In order for you to insult me, I would have to respect your opinion. In politics, I DO NOT.
I'm surprised you are not a Trumpster, you have the same childish attitude when it comes to politics, you call people names, you are smarter than everybody else, you can't understand why nobody sees everything your way. You become the middle school big-talking bully! "Don't listen to what THEY say, listen to what I TELL you"! The reason Marxism "never got a chance" is that nobody WANTS IT!
After a Burritolunch what happens?? A lot of smelly stuff comes out! This crap is more putrid than most. You have a happier New Year. You MUST have a look on your face similar to the look Trump has lately, .... child. :-(
I'm surprised you are not a Trumpster, you have the same childish attitude when it comes to politics, you call people names
Hold up you delusional old man: YOU started the attitude. Not me. If you are disrespectful to me, especially without provocation, don't expect champagne and roses in return.
I find it disgustingly typical of delusional American retards like yourself that you dedicate an entire post to slandering me, while simultaneously trying to take the moral high ground. Do me a favour and fuck off.
If you were a PISStol, you would be drawing. blanks. You can take Viagra, for that. ;)......................................................................
The reason Marxism "never got a chance" is that nobody WANTS IT!
You delusional cretin. Everybody who actually understands what Marxism is wants it. That's why it is so popular in universities and places of learning. The problem is that you have been living inside a propaganda bubble your entire life where someone else defines Marxism for you, because you are too intellectually lazy to read it for yourself and find out what it's all about. You've never read a goddamned word written by Karl Marx and you want to have an argument about him? Ahahaha! You arrogant, delusional man.
Let me tell you something, idiot. Everybody in Vietnam wanted a democratically elected Communist government. The Americans didn't want that. So they interfered and installed a completely corrupt puppet leader in the South. After that all went to hell and the American military got involved, North and South both agreed to end the conflict during talks in Paris with a free democratic election. The Americans didn't want that either, because they knew the people would elect a Communist government. So instead they turned the entire country to wood pulp.
What happened the moment the Americans withdrew from Vietnam?
North and South unified, had a democratic election, and voted in a Communist government. A country destroyed, tens of thousands of lives lost, and all to prevent the democracy Americans spend their entire lives thinking their government supports.
Are you fucking kidding me, you failed abortion? No logical and intellectually efficient person, would EVER want that Antichrist slave system!
LOL! Get the hell out you delusional old bat. Christianity has killed more people than the plague and you are calling Communism a slave system??? Are you even serious you stupid munter? I'll let James W Holland explain it to you, because you're not worth a kick in the biff:-
Well, here we go again, more mass shootings by a white Christian nationalist. Just what frame of mind causes you to think you are superior? I will tell all of you, it’s your religion. From the beginning of Christianity you thought only your kind should rule.
From the butchering of non-Christians, i.e., pagan non-believers; to the crusades with their wars on Muslims; to the Spanish Inquisition, with hundreds of thousands murdered because they were accused of witchcraft or heresy; to the Jews being persecuted because they were "Christ killers" and thought to be inferior, blamed for the great plagues; to blacks marked as descendants of Hamm and so meant to be enslaved; to the extermination of close to 80 percent of Native Americans from the Spanish invasions of the 15th and 16th centuries, Christianity has cut a broad swath.
The blindness by the Vatican during World War II, our own government turning away a ship of Jewish Refugees at the time of the Holocaust, the acts of the KKK, Neo-Nazis and far-right wingers − you make me sick of the human race.
I could go on, but being an atheist, I have a target on my back because you cannot handle the truth.
James W. Holland
You're very welcome. Now fuck off you murdering whore.
From the Gospel of John: And ye shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall set you free, whomever the Son sets free, is free indeed, I encourage you to read Philemon, I think in either 1 or 2 Corinthians, it says where the Spirit of the God is, there is, liberty, do we understand, each other? I can get these Scriptures, if you, want. Noteworthy, is your tu quoque, fallacy.
I am also opposed to Catholism, so nice strawman, fallacy.
Lol. Oh, so you're a Christian opposed to Christianity? I'm sure that makes sense to your deeply delusional mind, but to everyone else you're just mad. The Catholics are the first and original Christians. All the other modern branches of Christianity began with the Catholic Church.
Shut your stupid fucking retarded mouth you idiot.
The Catholic Church, sometimes referred to as the Roman Catholic Church, is the largest Christian church, with approximately 1.3 billion baptised Catholics worldwide as of 2018.[4]
The Christian beliefs of Catholicism are found in the Nicene Creed. The Catholic Church teaches that it is the one, holy, catholic and apostolic church founded by Jesus Christ in his Great Commission,[10][11][note 1] that its bishops are the successors of Christ's apostles, and that the pope is the successor to Saint Peter, upon whom primacy was conferred by Jesus Christ.[14] It maintains that it practises the original Christian faith, reserving infallibility, passed down by sacred tradition.[15]
I am a non denominational, Christian. Get it, right.
I'd rather let the experts do it for me, you stupid idiot.
Baptist ecumenical theologian Steven R. Harmon argues that "there's really no such thing" as a nondenominational church, because "as soon as a supposedly non-denominational church has made decisions about what happens in worship, whom and how they will baptize, how and with what understanding they will celebrate holy communion, what they will teach, who their ministers will be and how they will be ordered, or how they relate to those churches, these decisions have placed the church within the stream of a specific type of denominational tradition."[27]
I don't care what they say, because only the Bible matters, on who is a Christian, and God, not anyone, else.Catholics believe and do things that go against the Bible.
After a Burritolunch what happens?? A lot of smelly stuff comes out! This crap is more putrid than most.
Lol. Simply amazing that you began by accusing me of being childish, but ended making jokes about poo. Are you even listening to yourself? You're over 80 years old man. What is wrong with you? Leave the poo jokes back in the 1950s.
I would, gladly, if you would stop spreading it! Marxism has been rejected from the start! You seem to think everyone should want it. THEY DO NOT! THE majority SHOULD rule! That is the only thing that keeps people from whacko ideas like "Marxism".
You have literally spent the last 48 hours denying that Marx wanted an end to government, and called the Encyclopaedia Brittanica "fake news". Fuck off, you offensively stupid cow.
History has shown, that communists want big government.
History has shown us that troglodyte wingnut retards who won't listen to reason will invent their own version of history when the facts do not agree with them. Karl Marx wrote the theory of Communism, and Karl Marx says that the government is the force in society which institutionalises capitalism, therefore it must go. It's as simple as that. When you are the inventor of something, you claim all rights over what that thing is. Monstrously ugly, borderline retarded idiots called Dana do not get a say in the matter, and neither does her total lack of understanding of history. Does that compute?
Det er ikke en fejlslutning at rapportere, at du foregiver, at du taler flere sprog, når din dumme røv faktisk har Google Translate åben i en sidefane.
Do you live in the psychiatric ward? Do they let you run with scissors, befor you get online, and troll me, and God only knows, who else? They're coming to take me away, ha ha!
