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Have you forgiven God for using two bears to rip apart 42 small children?

From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some little children came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

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Yes.

Just as I have forgiven God for allowing you to live.

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Side: yes
1 point

That's rather odd reasoning. If I were to flip it around, I'd have to say I don't care one way or the other if God allows you to live, but I find it impossible to forgive him for murdering 42 small children.

Side: No
TERMINATOR(6780) Disputed
1 point

Your reasoning is off: you don't believe in God; you do not believe in the accuracy of the Bible - thus, you do not believe that God actually did send two bears to kill those children.

Is it really 'impossible' for you to "forgive" whom you consider to be a mythical creature for doing an act that you believe to have never even occurred?

Side: yes
Kinda(1649) Disputed
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Seriously where the fuck do you get off???

Who are you to forgive God and decide what He does or does not do is right??

Lol your a fucking insect. A fly. Your opinion is worthless.

Side: yes

I haven't.

Side: yes
1 point

Of course I forgive God for something He did in a fictional story. I don't really trust everything the Bible says, as it was written my man.

Side: yes
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That's an interesting position. I agree with you, the Bible is full of made up stories, and not very good ones at that, but that doesn't present me with the same problem it presents you, given that I don't believe God exists.

I mean, you've got to let go of reason, education and common sense in the first place to believe in a god, but when you mistrust the Bible, yet still believe, well that's just moving the bar to a whole new low isn't it?

It's like saying, "Sure the Bible's nonsense, but I still believe in God because of my own made up thoughts."

The human mind works in mysterious ways.

Side: No
MKIced(2511) Disputed
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I'm just not a huge fan of organized religion and the corruption that comes with it. I believe in a God, although I could be completely wrong and I'm fine with that. For all I know, there could be many gods or no god at all. But there's no way to prove any of this and believing in God gives me peace of mind. I like to pray to Him (or her or them, I suppose) on my own time in my own way.

Reason doesn't tell me there is no god. Reason tells me to question how this world, the stars, planets, and the universe ever came into existence. It may not be logical to immediately assume God created it all, but it's impossible to prove with science how the universe began through a big bang. How did matter come to be? And energy?

My education really has nothing to do with my spirituality. I've been educated as a scientist and I practice this every day. But in my opinion, spirituality and science are two different animals.

And common sense tells us to believe in a greater being. Common sense told those at the beginning of civilization to blame the gods for rain and crops and such. I think common sense tells you to pick the simplest answer available.

Side: yes
Vermink(1944) Disputed
1 point

So because it was written by a man it's not true? So non-fiction books are all false?

Side: No
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I believe most of what is in the bible are metaphors. Thus, it was more like an Aesop fable, than an actual event.

Side: yes
1 point

If most of what is in the Bible is merely metaphoric, what would you classify the rest of its content as, and what is your methodology for distinguishing between that which is metaphoric and that which is not?

Side: No
Vermink(1944) Disputed
1 point

You didn't put the whole thing there "They were not merely teasing elisha about his baldness, but showing severe disrespect for elisha's message and gods power."

You shouldn't disrespect a spirital leader. It was there punishment they had it coming, god will punnish you for disrespecting spiritual leaders.

Side: Yes
1 point

Since this story relies on the Bible for evidence, I will (for the sake of this argument) also take Genesis as evidence that God created humanity. If that's true, then by all means, tear up a few children, they're his toys anyway.

Side: yes
1 point

I was lost in the Darkest parts of my own wicked ways, spiraling down a path of destruction leading me away from His Almighty ways, and all the while im going down ONLY ONE, He could save me. No matter how far i looked on this lowly planet, i never once found a soul who could manage, to show me the love that i truly needed, because on this planet aint nothing but hate and contempt have been breeded. the lowly snake slithering as he goes through the towns of man looking for lowly lowly souls, to feed on so that it could plant it's evil seeds, and so that throughout the generations nothing but evil and hate we could recieve, but those where the ways of the past, my brothers and sisters. the devil had a hold of us and he managed through our parents, down through the generations His ways have been lost, and because of the us, the devil has turned and tossed, We can All be saved, all we need is Thanksgiving, to the One who Above, for All of His Givings. The devils trying to stop me right now as i speak, but Faithful to the Lord and willit He, that i may be meek. Because it is He not i that gives you this message but it is The One that we All should seek. i know that it is hard to find Rest, as we all go through this test some call a game, every single last one of us, probably, training to gain and retain our fame. But That is not what this life is about, i have a Strong feeling that we are All getting our Water from the wrong wrong spout. because thats all the devil has for us is a little bit, of pleasure, then comes the pain. steady feeding our bodies what i see now Is Insane. because ya'll hafto see that we are all carnally minded, and This is the reason The LORD, us he has blinded, binding, ourselves to our own flesh, so that eventually we would All fail this Test. but know that The Lord, He loves us, and wishes nothing but the best, and all He wants is for us to Love Him all the while through this Test. some wonder why we see nadoes and quakes, He needs ya'll to know that its Ya'lls souls that He is trying to shake. and bake if you will, so the devil may not have his fill, to letchya'll know that there is NONE like that ALMIGHTY AND ALL POWERFULL ONE. i say full because Hes filled with Love, like None that we have seen on this lowly earth, but now that i have SEEN, my Eyes have been UnBlinded, and now it is He, He who signs this, letter so maybe that some of Ya'll could listen, and Maybe get the Message that He is trying to dish, out of His spout, so that ya'll might be fed, with all of His Love, His Water, And His Bread. Don't for a second think any of Ya'll are living, All of ya'll are dead and for the devil are you "living" as i sit here and do this all of the "dome" just know that it is Not me and that this is His tomb. He is singing through me in these words and this song, so that maybe one day we All can be free all the day long, and ya'll can say its cheesy if ya'll want, but just know the devil in you he does flaunt x) i had to stop and show ya'll how i felt about that one, cuz its the truth, and right now i have a Strong feeling He is swinging harder than that brother Babe Ruth, or ballin harder than micheal jordan, and in this song he Is Playing His Accordian. Ya'll just need to know that He is our Guardian, and right now im flying Higher than any single air jordan, because my love i gave to Him more than any of Ya'll so i guess i can say more than them. But dont getit twizted like boi's if ya'll know, that me and moreover Him, have a lot to show. we are all brothers and sisters, but i should call us the missers, because we all fail to see the smaller things in this world, without even thinking twice, what truly brings a man alot of happiness or to see the pain that ALOT of us have in us. i know that we are all hurting on the inside, and for ya'll who say we dont, Boi, you know that is a lie, because only with Him and not that evil leech from down south, can we truly fly. higher than the highest of trees or the tallest of mountains, But in Him we Have to trust, so that We may Drink From The One and Only True fountain, only because of Him can i do this for days, and its Because i gave Him my love, thanksgiving, and praise. so now that i have seen what it is truly to be Man, Men of God, all these hater out there who bout to say something aint nuthing more than sod. sorry if it dont make sense, just know that me and Him the latter first, We are just trying to give His children, ya'll some mother lovin cents. forgive me if i pause for no longer am i a vulgar man life is just a beach, and Now, He is playing in the sand, hopefully in the minds of the young, the daughters and sons, i have my holster, and now the Lord is my Gun, Shining Brighter, than a million suns, times two, because His love is True, actually make that twenty twenty, because He is aplenty, in me in you and All, i just hope that ya'll can hear His call, so that maybe that ya'll may not fall, into the Pit, but right now i can say the devil is probably having a fit, of anxiety cuz he is losing his "children" just know that we are God's and with me He has been pilfering, in my mind day and night, as i have been in my room trying to stay out of sight, of ya'll because all it seems like to me, that nothing to ya'll it would please, more, than to see one of your own fellow brother get shot and fall. when i look around me i dont see any real love, this evil surrounds me, but Now i DO NOT CARE, because the Lord, THE LORD, HE has found me. so now ya'll cannot touch, because with His love, im about to bust. with loving Faith and Trust, i put in Him, so that i can be led away from this life of sin, and Now that i have His Trust, my brotha's and sista's, not just the black ones, comeon now, that just is not a must, there is no such thing man, all that is, is nothing more than an evil thought, brought up in vain, so that maybe a man's soul, that leech, can be bought. Quit being evil, for it is Love, that should be sought, out so once again we may be fed from His Spout, for only He can give us what we need so that in the end we may succeed. my brothers and sisters all we need to do is Believe, and then, Anything, together, WE CAN ACHIEVE. this is an ode to ya'll so in hopes once again that ya'll may hear The Call, and will not fall, so one day me, ya'll, and The Almighty,Perfect, like a prefect without the er, Omnipotent, and Patient ONE, that together we May All Ball. and they keep telling me to stop, but i just cant my brothers me and Him are headed to the top, and right now i got The Heart Of A Lion, King, and pray tell me my brothers and sisters who are reading, what single Beast can stop that king? of the jungle we are running but with Him we can be free. out into the open pasture we all can roam, just know this is not me, and that this is His Tomb. its wierd how they're spelled alike but do not rhyme, im talking bout bomb my brothers, and its One of a Kind. in the Hopes that this petty rhyme, can help lead the black sheep, away from the Blind, being themselves, for who? tell me can save them from that? if you dont answer right then your a part of this blight that runs rampant through the streets, evil im talking about and all it wants to do is eat, your souls because it is angry at the Living God, hahahaha for it is nothing more than a sod, on His Cleat as He is Running, Hoping that some of these Words, hit you right in the stomach, and make you sick, but not you, im talking about the evil you, for we are all children of God, but we have made ourselves nothing more than a sod =( i say with a heavy heart, because all this time we have been playing the devil, his part, but with Him it is nothing but a fart, because He Forgives, and Only Through Him may we EVER, get the chance to Live, and im not talking about on the earth, im talking about another, and maybe one day you can see and i can Truly call you my Brother, for there is Life in Death, but it is only gained through this life which is a test, just know that when we die, if you have lived righteously, on that day you will Fly, for the Lord will Breathe His Breath in you when you die and like i said before You Will Fly, but not if you keep eating from the devil's table, for you can only eat from one, and i hope its Not the devil's table. for if we Eat from Him, we can All go back into His Stable, and only in doing that can we Ever truly be stable, only only if, we are eating from, The Living God's Table. and for ya'll who are sitting at your computers steadily dissin Him, i pray for you, because it you are missin, Him and the bigger picture, just know right now im taking a Big Gulp From His Ultimate Pitcher, not one from the MLB, and if you are listening then i pray that you sea, i mean see, but with Him we can fly over the one before, and higher than mike, dunk it in, right for a score, but not for 2 for it is for 3, because He is Holy in me, but atm holy in you, because you missing some parts, we all need to change, so that we may play His Part, that He intended from the Beginning, because only With Him can we ever be winning, but hahahaha not as long as we are sinning. for that is not the way that we was meant to walk, With Him we was mean to Walk and Talk. once again i say this way i, used to, but we choose to live, is insane in the membrane, but He is using me as His Template, lol or templar whichever you prefer, just know that He is Prefect, ha just without the errrr. as i sit here steadily dissin em i mean the demons in the minds of the children of the One and Only, God Who Is Kind, i hope that they depart, so we can All gaze upon The Divine, not like wine or watch, i aint lil wayne, just know that i feel like im the only one who is sane. because i AM NOT PERFECT, do not get the wrong message for that would hurt me, only He is, and He just wants some love from His Kids, but for some odd reason... we still choose to do the evil leeches bids, for i feel he has sucked to much from us, all of our blood, i mean soul, it has tucked from us, and right now He is aiming at it with a Big Ol' Blunderbuss. to shoot it and unleech it, from His Children's Soul's so one day maybe we can gaze upon, That Wonderful City Of Gold, and dont letit peak your in ter ests, for if you do your not getting whats bests, from this test that He has beset, for our minds to ponder and think on, maybe in some of the hearts out there this message is shining, for He is a Beacon of Light, to shine out all the evils, and end this ugly, hateful blight, that courses through our vains, that nasty garbage that makes us feel insane, because no one is living right, and for That NONE is sane. you can talk and sit there and chatter, but i pray and hope that none get fatter, and im not talking because of mcdonalds, im talking about your ego and pride, because We Alll NEED to push that aside, all we seem to do is breed hate and contempt, sitting there looking for another hurt sould to feed on, thinking it makes us content, but just know NOW people, lolol all your doing is letting the devil be your PIMP! ha ha ha i think that really funny, because in the words of man that just makes ya'll some ho's, and please forgive my trespasses my sisters and brothers, for my vulgar words, because i Did Not mean to hurt, He's just trying to keep our faces from being rubbed in the dirt. but it really shouldnt matter because we are mud, and from One we all came, so can i not call ya'll blood??? nah im not talking about them two glock shotta's, im talking bout from The One Who Has Always Got Us, not us as in the navy, i mean us as in the ones who might sit on that bus, the one going to school and to the ones who drool in class, and all of us who needs a kick in the, pause, ya'll know what i mean, im just sitting here trying not be obscene, all im trying to do is get the bigger picture, through ya'll minds so that maybe one day, we can All WALK IN THE LORDS WAY. forgive me if i make any of ya'll mad, if i do know that i Am sad, but how about ya'll just go to the store and go and grab on of them happy hefty bags, you know i meant glad if you didnt you are simple, and forgive me as i sit here and bust this pimple, lol sorry that was nasty just know that i didnt, and know that we are all fake, and its time for some rhino plasty, or however its spelled im just hoping some hearts will melt, like the plastic we are, and become melded into flesh, as i sit here and type in this Soul Food test, for if ya'll can't hear me then your hearts are so cold, forgive me as i trespass, because, uhm, i Am not trying to be bold, im just tryna through some fia atcha hearts, in the hopes that you may leave the Dark, ness not loch just in case thats watchu thought, all you gotta do is leave your flesh behind, and know that He is the one who Should Be Sought, out so we can drank From His Spout, cuz the Lord Knows, man it has been a drought. we are all so thirsty, but in order to be filled its The Lord who must come firsty x) just know that me and Him are going Stooopid, and for those who are real maaan i thoughtchu knew it. and if you dont i pray you haven't already blew it, up i mean your ego, like a balloon, just know right now i feel like taz boi, yup them looney toones, or tunes whichever you prefer, just know that He is Prefect, just without the err. and i say pre because He was always here, yes before you and me, but with Him i wanna letchu know that we can all be as pure, and as white as the snow, just like powder we can all be melted, i mean melded into the beings we were meant to be, so one day we may fly free as a dove, Right over the sea, so that we all can reach New Jerusalem, yup just right where we was all meant to be, that is the Golden City for those who did not, know, im just hoping that one day we can All be as pure as the snow, because the evil has taunted and flaunted and given us a show, to peak i mean perk up our ears and it, that leech i mean, gave us nothing but fears, fears of ourselves and one another, fears from our sisters and daughter, Father, and brothers, but we have a right to Fear the Living God, because to Him we have all become a sod, He is sorrowful and cries as we follow, the evil being, who was never meant to be followed, and i felt His pain at one point in time, yes i Am talking About the Divine, we both cried together, in my room, because of the little things we miss, something just as small as, a heartfelt kiss... for it is the little things that bring us the greatest joy, not some diamond chain, or a, wind up toy, the biggest thing of all that should, is His Love, should bring us the Greatest joy, in the world, for thats all it is man just cars and noise, all the long going our way, Missing the sweetest noise, zes ya'll know what i mean, im talking about the One who is Never obscene, for He is Just And Right, in each and every single way, and for our sins my borhters and sisters, we have to pay, but do not fret for it is never to late, I think we all need to call upon The Divine, and we should All go on a date, do not worry for on this date there is no rape, or murder, or hate, for that is of the devil, and Your Soul it will take, there is no worries once you follow Him, we should all be hand in hand as we walk down this path, called, life Never having to worry about no pain or strife, or for a bigger picture His Wrath, but ONLY IF WE DRINK FROM HIS PITCHER. for The All Powerful and Righteous Wrath, only comes when you stray from His Path, it is there to show us our wrongs...can you feel His Soul as i sit here and Sing His song? and with Him i will NEVER fall, because with my Brother, I will always Hear His Call. i say we but it is Him, who say these words to in the hopes, that those who have an Ear to listen may never Fall, into the Pit, all you have to do is have Faith, Follow The Ten, Believe, and never EVER Quit, for in order to gain His All Perfect and Good Graces, we have to eliminate ALL the Hate and evil, in all sorts of places, i have a feeling this song was wrote long before, just in His mind and now in mine, and i sing His song in the Hopes, that you follow Him and not any of these "popes" for no hope lies in them, lol and if you truly think aboutit that actually rhymed, just know that im thinking of Him, foremost, but ya'll too as i steadily write This Rhyme, it comes from above yup, Straight From the Divine, in the Hopes that one day ya'll can SEE, exactly it was that we was missing, so we can All fly over the sea. Man this thing is long but i should Say God, because this is His Rhyme, and not from a sod, like me or you, if you real you can feel its True, as His Sword aims at the hearts of His good, flying Straight and Through, lol i mean True, but them if you can follow my friend, all we gotta do is sing Praises and Thanksgiving to Him, until the very end, and give Him all of our love, Because WITHOUT HIM, ha There WOULD BE NO LOVE, all there would be is pain and suffering, and i hope that the ones who are, suffer, i mean acating, Might actually stop and take the time to sit there and be debating, against the devil of course, cuz all it wants to do is, lead us, right, or left, but straight off our course. Lord Please Forgive me, if i am being coarse just know that i am your back, and You Are My Horse, lol ya'll might think He's heavy but He's really not, and i Love Him till Death, i mean Life, cuz i have found It, but back to the point, because i HE HAS TAUGHT, never went to church or none of that, maybe when i was younger but none of that, for our minds our are churches, ha gotit backwards but i feel as tall as the burches, talking bout them trees man im over the seas man, just know i cant, wait, My Father, until You Kick Over My Can Man x) aw man i thoughit was funny, because he's One Cool Dude, and i am His, Bunny, i mean Collie, and know that as i, i mean He, but as i bark, that i have a Strong feeling, that i am playing my Part, or His i prefer the latter but the choice is yurs, because it is His Puzzle, and i am the last part, i cant be for certain because the Knowledge is His, but im just trying to bring His Black Sheep back, you know i mean His KIDS, He thoughtit was funny, But ya'll best Believe that He NOR i the first comes first, but neither one of us is No, pause, Dummy, lol but if you choose you can beat and bite, whatever you do just know it is out of spite, and i dont capitilize because its an evil word, just know me and HIM, are trying to end this wrongful blight, and saying these words i Hope that maybe, just maybe some can be given the Sight, that HE intended us to have, right, from Go, talking bout monopoly,lol but no no more, from the start maaaan all HE ever wanted was us to give our heart, which is HIS, because He gave to us, All that is HIS, HE just Wanted someone to talk to man, thats why HE made HIS Kids, HE was all alone, and then HE built, a Beautiful place for us, and HIM, to walk and talk all the while, just laughing and talking, seeing eachother smile =) because HE is our FATHER, He's not as mean ha as ya'll would believe, just know that HE TRULY IS ONE BENEVOLENT KING. lol ha ha i think this is funny, He knows what im talking about, cuz this is all of the top of the dome with barely a second to pause, Just Know the THE LION KING, Has Opened HIS Claws, Blessed be the children who took the time to listen, to the message that a, and The King is steadily dishin, i say a because i am one too, but know that im a servant, and from a Seed i did Grew, i dont care if it makes no sense to ya'll because i have heard the Lords Call, and they, they know who they are, are always listening, and as He types, through, me i have a feeling they are about to call, Prayer is the Best Wireless Connection X) aint no service down here got that type of Connection, i just hope that i get to see some of ya'll at that intersection, i mean Crossroads, bone thugz n harmony, they said it first, man thats the song man and if you feel their soul, then maybe you should hurt, because those bois on the streets back in the day, all they was doing was searching for some Peace, but in the streets, the oppressors, following the devil, have no love for us in the slums, just know that we All have a Holster and God Is our Gun, we dont need no metal, for The Lord our issues HE will settle, all you gotta do is Have some Faith, saying this in hope that some dont see any wraiths, talking demons people come now and please listen, as the Lord spits his song and these Words HE is dishin, out yup you getting it word of mouf, lol or mouth whichever you prefer just DONT follow that lowly snake, yup the one down south, it might try and offer pleasure and happiness butits all fake, HA what do ya'll expect from a lowly snake? remeber eve as she sat under that tree? sitting there thinking and feeling the breeze? the snake spoke in her Ear temptation it did bring, and after teel me WHO did she fear? she had a split second of happiness and thats all it can give, and after that she felt the WRATH which is ONLY HIS, lol i hope that ya'll see, the way we live people, it just wasn't meant to be, i have a feeling that there all up there laughing, with, not at me as i type out His message, and i pray ALMIGHTY FATHER, THE ONES WHO HAVE AN EAR TO LISTEN PLEASE FATHER PLEASE LET THE HEAR. and the ones who dont i pray you dont hit him hard, maybe just a little tap, just like Babe Ruth, on that baseball card x) Peace be with you my sisters and brothers, just know that HIS LOVE IS LIKE NO OTHER, GOD BLESS ALL WHO FINISHED, AND I PRAY YOUR SOULS NEVER, DIMINISH. ONE HEART IS ALL, AND WITH THAT HEART WE CAN NEVER FALL, lol i said i was finished, but i dont think HE is as you can tell this words are not mine, THEY COME FROM THE UPPER BEING, yup THE DIVINE!!! i think im going to cut Him short and please Forgive me, because i know HE could go all day, BECAUSE I CAN FEEL HIM IN ME.

Side: yes
1 point

Yeah, considering we tortured, beat, and then nailed his son to a piece of wood.... I think we're about even.

Side: yes
imrigone(761) Disputed
1 point

Wait, you were there? You did that? Wow, you are a dangerous being, huh? Also, in my system of math, 42 does not equal 1. And 1 does not generally equal infinity. Furthermore, did any of those 42 children have knowledge that they were God, or would come back to life? Because Jesus supposedly knew these things. Sacrifice is meaningless the moment you know it is meaningless.

Side: No
1 point

You do have a point, it isn't really fair to resurrect yourself three days later is it?

Side: No
1 point

Yes,yes,yes is my very simple answer after all the things he's forgiven us for and theres like 8 billion people on this earth we should give him some slack. He's forgiven criminals for killing children so why can't we forgive him???

Side: Yes
ChuckHades(3197) Disputed
1 point

we should give him some slack.

What! He sent bears to kill children! He doesn't deserve slack! If I walk round to your street and kill every one there apart from you, are you going to give me "slack"?

He's forgiven criminals for killing children so why can't we forgive him???

1. How do you know God has forgiven criminals?

2. Criminals are not supposedly all good. That is the issue.

3. Most criminals aren't worshiped by 2 billion people.

Side: No
Vermink(1944) Disputed
1 point

OK first things first I like how you have an answer for everything :P But I was just giving opinion. HOW DO YOU KNOW HE'S FORGIVEN CRIMINALS? I know because I read the bible and in there there is a tax collector who cared more about money than anyone else he was selfish yet Jesus saw goodness in him and forgave his sins like he did with a lot of people, God see's goodness in everybody and forgives them if asked to forgive. This is my believe nothing will change that :P

Side: Yes
Vermink(1944) Disputed
1 point

He may have killed 43 children but all together how many people/children have our species killed altogether through abortion or intention, I would think we've killed a lot more than he has but together (not saying you've killed someone but others have!)

Side: Yes
1 point

What is there to forgive? Didn't happen to me.

Side: Yes
0 points

Of course, who are you to question God. JOB 38-42 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation. Tell me if you understand" Who marked off it's dimensions, surely you know..who laid its cornerstone.. who shut the sea behind doors... have you given orders to the morning... tell me...etc etc.." read it for your answer, but i'll give you the Cliff's notes.... WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO QUESTION GOD lol p.s. if you don't believe in God than you shouldn't even be debating this question because it just makes you look like a religion hating asshole... go bother the muslims you chickenshits.. oh ya you wouldn't dare.

Side: yes
1 point

Of course, who are you to question God. JOB 38-42 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation. Tell me if you understand" Who marked off it's dimensions, surely you know..who laid its cornerstone.. who shut the sea behind doors... have you given orders to the morning... tell me...etc etc.." read it for your answer, but i'll give you the Cliff's notes.... WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO QUESTION GOD lol p.s. if you don't believe in God than you shouldn't even be debating this question because it just makes you look like a religion hating asshole... go bother the muslims you chickenshits.. oh ya you wouldn't dare.

What nonsense is this?

Who am I? I'm a person who looks down on your god with disgust...the same as I would any murderer of children.

Who are you?

Side: No
bigassbiker(5) Disputed
1 point

Are you angry at the wind for knocking down your house? Angry at the swimming pool in your back yard that drowned your child? Angry at the waves crashing into the surf to loud? Angry at the sun and sand for causing your thirst in the Desert? Do you forgive your parents for giving birth to you even though you have Down's syndrome and are missing a leg? My point would be that, If you choose to truly believe in God, you have to accept that he is a natural/supernatural force above judgement from his creations, like the examples I have listed above, he allowed his only son to be hung on a cross, have a bad joke written above his head and killed for goodness sake. If you, like some of the arguments on the no side, do not believe in God, than you might as well hate Santa Clause and be disgusted with him for not giving you that Red Rider B.B. gun for Christmas or angry at the person who taught you to read that God used 2 bears to smite 42 children.

Side: yes
2 points

Absolutely not, the flying spaghetti monster never would have allowed such a tragedy.

Side: No

You're forgetting the time he tortured and killed an entire pantry full of mini ravioli, but of course, many scholars believe this to be just a parable.

Side: No
mudkipz2(360) Disputed
1 point

i am arguing your overall arguments by disputing this argument cause i am lazy to find the one i felt arguing, so pleas forgive me.

it seems that the theological side has done a poor job of defending god by cussing and such.

but any way back to the question.

you believe that god is made up and that it is a mystical thing men imagine, such as the tooth fairy or something.

god is like a lesson course, you don't understand him or get him right away, it takes years. most of the this made up stuff about how you get a magical feeling and stuff when you prey or believe is lies. you cant believe in something that you never seen proof to believe in, god knows this and that is why he has made ways for us to find proof of him.

the problem with atheist is that they take the hardest most extrema stuff and then go crazy off it. like "how could you believe a guy talked to a burning bush" and things like that. i mean i can take any thing we take as simple and standard and take it to the exteam to some person who has never seen it. take electricty for example. if i were to go to a village kid and say how this little see through sphere can cause this crazy yellowish thing like a fire to appear to light things up, the kid would probably think im crazy, i would first A, have to show him a light bulb, or B, explain to him how its possible. this is the case with God

my example is this. if a man said to you i can predict the future you probably would not believe him. but if you had been with the that man for a while and saw that his predictions were true you would believe him. in order to understand parts of something like the A,B,Cs you have to start at A or you wont understand C. to understand the burning bush or the bear story you have to start with A, that is, is there god and why would he do that?

that a side. before we argue about the actual thing were supposed to argue about it, why do you not believe in god?

you call people stupid for believing in god, but i call foolish for not finding any proof of his existence. why? becouse god offers ever lasting life and morality and wisdom. arnt these things we seek in every day life, from teachers to scientist? if a man or "thing" says he can offer this would it not be in are best interest to find out if this offer is true or not?

if it is, then we start we the basis. is god real? but seeing as my argument has prolonged. my main point was to set the basics for why these "crazy people" who call them selves christians have reasons to do so. and not really to wright a book about the proof of god. as i said before, god is not a one hour study lesson, he is like electricty. it takes years to study and learn about the most sophisticated important things in our lives and why would it not? something so deep and though provoking i would imagine would take time to grasp and understand its importance.

Side: yes
2 points

no, but it's pretty damn funny.

two bears rip apart 42 children? sounds like something out of a cartoon.

Side: No

It is hard to forgive a person that I do not believe in... However, I do believe in bears; i forgive the bears.

Side: No
1 point

I think god has a right to kill children

1)they're probably A.S.B.O kids who no-one likes

2)if you were repeatedly called a name wouldn't you want to kill them

3)if you were God wouldn't you want to exercise your power

Side: No
milotic(6) Disputed
1 point

1-check a therapist

2-your personnel opinion about someone descent allow you to judge the right for their existence.

3-your understanding of a huge concept called god is very limited which makes your personnel opinion limited.

Side: yes
1 point

cant you see he is being satyrical? i thought it was funny

Side: yes
0 points

Well, it's hard to forgive someone who doesn't exist for something that never happened...

Side: No