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Healthcare a human right?

The United States is one of the very few if not the only main stream country without a universal Health care system in place. But the debate is does everyone in the United States have the right to healthcare insurance? 

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Side Score: 4
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Healthcare is a human right as by Article 12 of the CESCR “the right of everyone to the enjoyment of the highest attainable standard of physical and mental health.” “Health” in this context is understood as not just the right to be healthy and have health care"

So we have proved healthcare is a human right now. The issue now is should it be paid for? No it should not be paid for. The main issue with what the left wants is medicare for all does not cover everything that a private insurance would. The main thing the United States needs is affordable health care. The issue that so many have is the cost to go to an emergency room or the doctor for check ups.

If the United States made healthcare affordable instead of for profit the health system would be much better. Private insurance could still exist with little to no up front cost and have a lower premium making it affordable for most.

The cost to lay in a emergency room right now can be 150 to a few thousand. I believe this should it way to high and needs to made affordable. A er visit for a broken arm should be around 100 dollars not a few thousand dollars. A ambulance ride should be the cost of fuel nothing else.

Side: Yes
JustIgnoreMe(4334) Clarified
1 point

The US has never actually ratified its participation in the CESCR, but the question is still a good one.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1794303

You are right that just removing the Medicare age restriction is overly simplistic, other changes would need to be made to sufficiently provide coverage to those under 65 (covering pregnancy, etc.), but there is nothing saying those changes could not be made.

I think having the option around would at least provide competition based on more than just profit.

One other interesting idea for keeping drug prices down was the concept of establishing bounties for drugs rather than using patents. e.g. First one to create a cure for cancer (as measured by xxx) gets $5 Billion dollars, and no patent - so the pills could then be created and distributed immediately and cheaply. Moreover, it changes the incentive towards finding cures rather than mass vaccinations and lifetime treatments, etc.

Side: Yes

Healthcare a human right?

Sure. Now go tell NYC hospitals that they must serve you despite people dying in line waiting for exhausted doctors who are dropping out of the profession one by one, day by day.

Side: No
debaterrater(1) Disputed
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Healthcare is still a human right and should be a human right regardless of reality, or what is happening. As humanity grew and began to understand the rules of survival, we have adapted to acknowledge that our health is essential to our lives. Human rights have been created by people based on our understanding of morals. Life is a commodity therefore we have to protect it, that is why we made the healthcare system in order to ensure survival. However, sometimes people exploit the idea of the healthcare system and decide to make it for the elite and wealthy. That's why more than 400 million people lack access to health services. Regardless if whether or not we receive health services it is still a human right. At the end of the day, we as humans created this system of what is right and wrong, what is essential and not.

Side: Yes
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The only rights anyone is entitled to are the rights they have earned.

Those people in work should allocate a sufficient % of their earnings to ensure all eventualities including illness and old age are provided for.

Those people who are out of work temporarily through no fault of their own should be offered a paid position in a government job creation scheme such as environmental improvement projects, street litter clearance etc.

Automatic deductions from their wages earned in such schemes could cover the administration costs and pay for insurance cover.

Why do some people think this so called HUMAN RIGHT should only apply to America or the developed western nations?

What about the populations of the many primitive African nations and other underdeveloped countries?

Does their suffering not count?

Why does the plight of the millions who live below the poverty line in bankrupt countries not seem to feature in the rants of the sanctimonious virtue signaling do-gooder's who like to dictate how other people's hard earned dosh should be spent?

''Cut your coat according to your cloth'' and you'll be able to afford medical insurance and make provision for old age.

Side: No
1 point

The only rights anyone is entitled to are the rights they have earned.

Are entitled to. Burying your nose in the online thesaurus to flower up your language won't ever fix your poor grammar. Only education will do that.

Side: Yes
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Those people in work should allocate a sufficient % of their earnings to ensure all eventualities including illness and old age are provided for.

I think their employers should provide health cover and a pension because they are the ones profiting from what the worker does. The worker is being exploited and that's just the objective reality of it.

Those people who are out of work temporarily through no fault of their own should be offered a paid position in a government job creation scheme such as environmental improvement projects, street litter clearance etc.

That defeats the purpose of sending workers home in the first place. If they are out of work temporarily through no fault of their own then the government should either pay their wages or at least fast-track them through the benefits system.

Why does the plight of the millions who live below the poverty line in bankrupt countries not seem to feature in the rants of the sanctimonious virtue signaling do-gooder's

Are you actually sniffing glue today? Or are you maybe just bipolar? I bring up Africa constantly during those times you are blaming blacks for crime or arguing whites must be smarter because they live in better circumstances.

Side: Yes