Yea sure thats a fair statement on the surface.

And without comparing both objectively it would be an accurate statement.

They equally had an ancient origin with a story and details that could show observances early on.

So it can show two sets of different views possibly out of imaginations.

Or, it can show a struggle for man from the beginning.

Its easy to dismiss facts based on connection;of facts to "beliefs" and dismiss fair evaluation of it because the facts are connected to moral responsibility or response that requires weighing beyond the facts.

But is that professionally ethical? And is it ethical and responsible toward those steered by the authority of our academic fields?

Particuarly in these modern times, we have the ability to give an honest evaluation of facts, without the religious beliefs attached which is choice of the individual. But the evaluation itself should be proofessionally objective when weighing the evidence of both, not dissmissive of one because a Creator may be related to religion.

Should facts and evidence be ignored, simply based on connection to faith or religion. Or should they handle facts objectively regardless of connestions to faith or religion?

When comparing which is truely more detailed and fitting of actual process of origin, is it acceptable to ignore facts simply because they have been beliefs in religion? So do we accept less likeley facts because a biology story can be created out of working backwards from the study of an already completed, established, balanced, designed life and existence on earth within our universe?

Wheras evolution creates theory from an advanced prespective studying the interactions of existing "creation"

The Bible tells it from a prespective of explanation from the beginning, prior to observable life.

So then if the Bible turns out to have signatures that cannot be reasonably refuted, although they refute against all reason and against even the math and law of sciences they clain to ethically uphold, then shouldnt it be taken under serious observation and experimented in as objective as a biological soup mixed by intelligent design of human hands directing its process and outcome?

God created adaptation. Adaptation still is specifi of existing DNA. Selective mutation for the greater good of the species evolving has literally been debunked. Yet a whole generation swares its factual observances of authoritative scientists and educators. Who hold to any facts that could sound logical in theory, but ignore the improbability of it against all the odds of natural scientific law that says it is improbable to mathmatically ridiculous probability.

Isnt that teaching faith more so than faith with evidence and facts that give proof in logical conclusion of the Creator?

If the Bible turns out to have as much or more facts that fit, then is the silly book more of an eyewitness account dictated by the Creator?

If Intelligent design and intentional directed process had to exist in order to explain origin. And if the Bible proves to be more than tall tales?

Then pursue your own investigation of who the Creator is, and if His interaction means anything to life past, present, and future.

What if science actually woke up tomorrow and declared that a Creator was required. And they exhausted the potential of self design and proved a Creator origin?

Then how should science and educators address this in todays anti-Creator culture?

And if science and educators proved the Bible to be a document written by that Creator?

How should that be managed in this anti- Creator culture?

As sciences advance, and resources become available for evaluating it, the Bible is actually being proven as well as God of the Bible is being proven.

So if the Bible is proven, then don't educators have a responsibility to evaluate it as objectively as biology?

After all, isnt science supposed to uphold ethical practices to a professional standard to facts?

Or is anti-religion a standard that supercedes facts?

In my estimation of confirmable facts of origin, as well as the actual process that began and completed life and structure in a variety so rich, as we find in nature, with a balance that could not be achieved by a process that successfully bypassed other confirmed actual laws of science.

So on one hand we have the study of living things that have already been developed, to their own highest form then died, and since natural law is mathmatically engineered, even down to digital coding?

Which you can look at and develop a machine that would work as the cell works, as if designed more so by a mechanical engineer in precision and operation, the mechanical engineer would actually be more qualified than the biologist to reproduce the actual design, involved in collecting and assembling the parts more logically, than the biologist in a lab watching already designed life adapt and change to its environment.

Its actually more likely for a mathmatical engineer to redesign everything in our universe from the cosmos to the single celled life structure, then the biolgist chemically reproducing it.

And the most curious things to me, is we find the same patterns of design, as if coded by the same mathmatical engineer, the architect who designed the mathmatically symmetrical universe that is completely dependent on the anthropic principle of mathmatical precision of the Divine Genius that made man in His image with intelligence God calls wisdom knowledge and understanding which makes up the uniqueness of our reasoning minds.

So then we see in that same book, the reasoning mind is the battle from the beginning.

Faith is called "evidence" and those who dont live according to the evidence, deny the Creator. And "God gives them over to an unreasoning mind," "darkened by the god of this physical reality" to "live according to instinct like animals."

By only being willing to live by what we see, and seeking only after what we can taste, see, smell, and touch is to live ignoring the evidence seen of the Creator. And by doing so, choosing the fallen over the Redeemer.

The Bible has signatures that should cause real sciences who want real answers should also be consideeed with the points of evidence weighted according to their true probability. Just as they do with biology accept they ignore adding or subtracting points according to probability.

Ethical science educators and scientists should weigh anything related that has valid authentication and evidence as well objectively.

The kids today that are now are media, scientisys and educators, have dismissed curiosity, and method of evaluating based on skepticism and atheism and humanism and evolutionism. None of which have anything to do with objective study of origin.

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The entire Old Testament is fullfilled in Christianity. Even the OT written by Hebrew prophets describes Messiah commin, Jews rejecting and crucifying Him, is the pre-foretold event that triggered faith as also preforetold by leaps of exponential growth, with even confirming it with the sum of "e" to the 4th decimal found in John 1: 1 which like Genesis 1: 1 also explains Creation bearing witness of creation by way of Jesus. And His purpose to save the "world."

I dont think John had forethought to make the Greek letters show advance math of "e" in the continuation of the OldT through the Messiah, of which is actually the entire basis of all the OldT, literally.

Abraham father of the nation of Israel through Isaac. Yet He also says through that same seed he and Sarah would be father and mother of " many nations"

Sounds like God purposely designed and intended exponential growth out to ALL nations.

Yet return to add back in the Jews in the end when He completes all things full circle. As pi suggests found to the 4th decimal place as "e" was, but in the Hebrew of Genesis 1: 1.

And all laguages backward and forward poiny to YHWY in the middle! As well as Jesus perched on the worlds timeline, with Jesus dating all history by what the entire OldT told of, the Messiah, Jesus.

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Comparatively to Zoroastrian connection.

The continuity of the Biblical text diversified over 66 authors sepated by generations and even milleniums, has merit.

As well as a reasonable purpose, and process of its unfolding design, and execution of purpose, into a fitting conclusion of the same, that makes sense as a whole.

Zoroastrian connection is purposeless, and doesnt flow from beginning to end.

Of listening to fairly score and evaluate a belief's purpose method execution and conclusion, is it complicated enough to see and evaluate a logical order and purpose within thread of its entirety?

Or, is it scattered in piece meal, with difficulty finding logical purpose surrounding the religious beliefs?

Does it show a disconnected illogical course of beliefs, lacking continuity and the connectivity between the whole of its religions beliefs?

Is it in harmony with natural law?

Is it wise regarding life and humanity, and the psychology and conscience and consciousness of mankind, applicable for every age of mankind?

Is it in logical order, foundationally built line upon line, with a solid approach in sound reasoning, describing precepts that could accurately apply scientifically within natural laws of the universe?

Thanks for your input, I hope you enjoyed the documentary video presentation; though you seem to think that you know more than God and sound like you did not watch the video.

You might notice that I fixed the wording in the OP, thanks again for your comments and tell all your friends about this wonderful documentary which shows evolution is really not science but is an ancient philosophical belief system.

https://youtu.be/4B-CPROdwnQ

Debunking Zoroastrianism in less than 10 minutes.

I'm banning you for trying to change the discussion to Zoroastrianism. Why don't you go make your own debate about Zoroastrianism? Maybe I'll comment there.

In all modern debate fashion which is nothing but appreciation and respect for dissenting opinions, as we enjoy the ambient warmth of the glow of our computer screens for a convivial repose to enjoy the excellent presentation of the OP subject video: For those of you motor mouths who obviously are full of something you have to spit out of your mouth in all expedience as priority over watching the subject video, here's the conclusion of the video which is very well documented from easily checked sources for those of you who enjoy education.

The Conclusion of the well researched and well documented video with its many easily confirmed reference sources:

1. The theory evolution came from the Hindu Brahmins.

2. Pantheistic evolution was passed down by Pythagoras to the Greeks.

3. Thales and his lonic school branched out from Pantheistic Evolution to Naturalistic Evolution.

4. Plato and Aristotle's evolutionary ideas were dispersed through the Alexandrian School in Egypt.

5. The ideas were followed through into the Middle Ages (Aquinas), Renaissance and into Freemasonry, where they were preserved.

6. Freemasonry and the Enlightenment had a re-birth of the philosophy.

7. Lord Monboddo and Erasmus Darwin carried the philosophy forward.

8. Charles Darwin developed the idea.

Quoting Professor Wolfgang Smith, University of Oregon:

As a scientific theory, Darwinism would have been jettisoned long ago. The point, however, is that the doctrine of evolution has swept the world, not on the strength of its scientific merits but precisely in its capacity as a Gnostic Myth. It affirms, in effect, that living beings create themselves, which is in essence a metaphysical claim...Thus, in the final analysis, evolutionism is in truth a metaphysical doctrine decked out in scientific garb. In other words, it is a scientific myth. (Smith, W., Tielhardism and the New Religion, p242)

In all modern debate fashion which is nothing but appreciation and respect for dissenting opinions, as we enjoy the ambient warmth of the glow of our computer screens for a convivial repose to enjoy the excellent presentation of the OP subject video: For those of you motor mouths who obviously are full of something you have to spit out of your mouth in all expedience as priority over watching the subject video, here's the conclusion of the video which is very well documented from easily checked sources for those of you who enjoy education.

The Conclusion of the well researched and well documented video with its many easily confirmed reference sources:

1. The theory evolution came from the Hindu Brahmins.

2. Pantheistic evolution was passed down by Pythagoras to the Greeks.

3. Thales and his lonic school branched out from Pantheistic Evolution to Naturalistic Evolution.

4. Plato and Aristotle's evolutionary ideas were dispersed through the Alexandrian School in Egypt.

5. The ideas were followed through into the Middle Ages (Aquinas), Renaissance and into Freemasonry, where they were preserved.

6. Freemasonry and the Enlightenment had a re-birth of the philosophy.

7. Lord Monboddo and Erasmus Darwin carried the philosophy forward.

8. Charles Darwin developed the idea.

Quoting Professor Wolfgang Smith, University of Oregon:

As a scientific theory, Darwinism would have been jettisoned long ago. The point, however, is that the doctrine of evolution has swept the world, not on the strength of its scientific merits but precisely in its capacity as a Gnostic Myth. It affirms, in effect, that living beings create themselves, which is in essence a metaphysical claim...Thus, in the final analysis, evolutionism is in truth a metaphysical doctrine decked out in scientific garb. In other words, it is a scientific myth. (Smith, W., Tielhardism and the New Religion, p242)

Put down the wine long enough to regather your senses enough so you can watch the video and get an education

In all modern debate fashion which is nothing but appreciation and respect for dissenting opinions, as we enjoy the ambient warmth of the glow of our computer screens for a convivial repose to enjoy the excellent presentation of the OP subject video: For those of you motor mouths who obviously are full of something you have to spit out of your mouth in all expedience as priority over watching the subject video, here's the conclusion of the video which is very well documented from easily checked sources for those of you who enjoy education.

The Conclusion of the well researched and well documented video with its many easily confirmed reference sources:

1. The theory evolution came from the Hindu Brahmins.

2. Pantheistic evolution was passed down by Pythagoras to the Greeks.

3. Thales and his lonic school branched out from Pantheistic Evolution to Naturalistic Evolution.

4. Plato and Aristotle's evolutionary ideas were dispersed through the Alexandrian School in Egypt.

5. The ideas were followed through into the Middle Ages (Aquinas), Renaissance and into Freemasonry, where they were preserved.

6. Freemasonry and the Enlightenment had a re-birth of the philosophy.

7. Lord Monboddo and Erasmus Darwin carried the philosophy forward.

8. Charles Darwin developed the idea.

Quoting Professor Wolfgang Smith, University of Oregon:

As a scientific theory, Darwinism would have been jettisoned long ago. The point, however, is that the doctrine of evolution has swept the world, not on the strength of its scientific merits but precisely in its capacity as a Gnostic Myth. It affirms, in effect, that living beings create themselves, which is in essence a metaphysical claim...Thus, in the final analysis, evolutionism is in truth a metaphysical doctrine decked out in scientific garb. In other words, it is a scientific myth. (Smith, W., Tielhardism and the New Religion, p242)

Yea there is!

https://youtu.be/4UtOv2b60gc

http://www.unsealed.org/2012/10/the-woman-clothed-in-sun-2017.html?m=1

Fyi - The constelations even say 2017 is significant!

Mind blowing. God went from keeping mysteries hidden and sealed to opening up understanding in truck loads!

Thanks for your input, I hope you enjoyed the documentary video presentation; though you seem to think that you know more than God and sound like you did not watch the video.

You might notice that I fixed the wording in the OP, thanks again for your comments and tell all your friends about this wonderful documentary which shows evolution is really not science but is an ancient philosophical belief system.

In all modern debate fashion which is nothing but appreciation and respect for dissenting opinions, as we enjoy the ambient warmth of the glow of our computer screens for a convivial repose to enjoy the excellent presentation of the OP subject video: For those of you motor mouths who obviously are full of something you have to spit out of your mouth in all expedience as priority over watching the subject video, here's the conclusion of the video which is very well documented from easily checked sources for those of you who enjoy education.

The Conclusion of the well researched and well documented video with its many easily confirmed reference sources:

1. The theory evolution came from the Hindu Brahmins.

2. Pantheistic evolution was passed down by Pythagoras to the Greeks.

3. Thales and his lonic school branched out from Pantheistic Evolution to Naturalistic Evolution.

4. Plato and Aristotle's evolutionary ideas were dispersed through the Alexandrian School in Egypt.

5. The ideas were followed through into the Middle Ages (Aquinas), Renaissance and into Freemasonry, where they were preserved.

6. Freemasonry and the Enlightenment had a re-birth of the philosophy.

7. Lord Monboddo and Erasmus Darwin carried the philosophy forward.

8. Charles Darwin developed the idea.

Quoting Professor Wolfgang Smith, University of Oregon:

As a scientific theory, Darwinism would have been jettisoned long ago. The point, however, is that the doctrine of evolution has swept the world, not on the strength of its scientific merits but precisely in its capacity as a Gnostic Myth. It affirms, in effect, that living beings create themselves, which is in essence a metaphysical claim...Thus, in the final analysis, evolutionism is in truth a metaphysical doctrine decked out in scientific garb. In other words, it is a scientific myth. (Smith, W., Tielhardism and the New Religion, p242)

Thanks for your input, I hope you enjoyed the documentary video presentation; though you seem to think that you know more than God and sound like you did not watch the video.

I'm sure you enjoyed the video as you love education and the video is a very well put together documentary.

You might notice that I fixed the wording in the OP, thanks again for your comments and tell all your friends about this wonderful documentary which shows evolution is really not science but is an ancient philosophical belief system which requires no tangible support.

In all modern debate fashion which is nothing but appreciation and respect for dissenting opinions, as we enjoy the ambient warmth of the glow of our computer screens for a convivial repose to enjoy the excellent presentation of the OP subject video: For those of you motor mouths who obviously are full of something you have to spit out of your mouth in all expedience as priority over watching the subject video, here's the conclusion of the video which is very well documented from easily checked sources for those of you who enjoy education.

The Conclusion of the well researched and well documented video with its many easily confirmed reference sources:

1. The theory evolution came from the Hindu Brahmins.

2. Pantheistic evolution was passed down by Pythagoras to the Greeks.

3. Thales and his lonic school branched out from Pantheistic Evolution to Naturalistic Evolution.

4. Plato and Aristotle's evolutionary ideas were dispersed through the Alexandrian School in Egypt.

5. The ideas were followed through into the Middle Ages (Aquinas), Renaissance and into Freemasonry, where they were preserved.

6. Freemasonry and the Enlightenment had a re-birth of the philosophy.

7. Lord Monboddo and Erasmus Darwin carried the philosophy forward.

8. Charles Darwin developed the idea.

Quoting Professor Wolfgang Smith, University of Oregon:

As a scientific theory, Darwinism would have been jettisoned long ago. The point, however, is that the doctrine of evolution has swept the world, not on the strength of its scientific merits but precisely in its capacity as a Gnostic Myth. It affirms, in effect, that living beings create themselves, which is in essence a metaphysical claim...Thus, in the final analysis, evolutionism is in truth a metaphysical doctrine decked out in scientific garb. In other words, it is a scientific myth. (Smith, W., Tielhardism and the New Religion, p242)

Where did Demon Hunter go? Off to play hockey or something?

Watch the video and discuss it or take a hike, please. Do I have to ban you for running your mouth without equipping yourself for the conversation here by watching the video?

This is the only chance before I ban you..if you want to discuss things here, watch the video and discuss it's points and I'll discuss the points of the video with you. One more stupid comment proving nothing but the fact that your manners are like a rabid devil and you are banned.