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Debate Score:103
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Homosexuality: Is it wrong?

Do you feel that homosexuals deserve the same rights as a heterosexual in todays society?

Yes

Side Score: 32
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No

Side Score: 71
3 points

I think that all people, irrespective of their personal choices, should be afforded the same rights and privileges in our society.

It make no sense to argue otherwise.

Pre WW2, Hitler, in his infinite wisdom, decided to persecute the Jews, Gays, Non-Arians, Gypsies, etc. Looking retrospectively, was that a well reasoned decision? If you agree that it was, then I would challenge you to provide any strong supporting evidence in favor of your position as to how that decision afforded any benefit at all to Germany at the time, or any other country for that matter.

The same holds true in our current example. I challenge you to provide any strong (not philosophical) argument(s) which would support giving gays / lesbians any less rights than non gays / lesbians.

Side: yes
1 point

This is my personal opinion and you do not have to agree. I know homosexuals exist and am not denying it. I say that the behavior is a perverted act because it is not something I would do, nor is it what the majority of people do, nor is it something that would involve the "natural" purpose of sex--reproduction.

There are sociological and psychological factors for homosexual behaviors, which would take up too much space here, but we are starting to see the effect it is having on our children when the adults are pushing it on the rest of society.

By being told it's Ok, by adults, children get mixed signals from their peers. Children are very cruel to each other, and sex is one of the things that they are too emotionally immature to handle in the first place. When you add "perverted" behaviors into the mix, you create even more confusion within the young mind. For one child to admit to being a homosexual is akin to social death: undoubtedly they will be bullied and teased.

Personally, I don't care what two adults do behind closed doors. I just think that I do not want them telling young children that is perfectly ok to engage in homosexual behaviors.

There are lots of children that are just sexually curious, and I don't want children exposed to this kind of behavior. I don't care for open sexual behavior in public with heterosexuals adults either.

Children learn what they see.

Side: yes
aveskde(1935) Disputed
4 points

This is my personal opinion and you do not have to agree. I know homosexuals exist and am not denying it.

This is what forums are for. However on a debate website you will be challenged, as per the nature of the community.

I say that the behavior is a perverted act because it is not something I would do, nor is it what the majority of people do, nor is it something that would involve the "natural" purpose of sex--reproduction.

You just condemned the entirety of sex to "perversion." The vast majority of sex that anyone has is not for reproduction, but pleasure.

Secondly, what is perverse is merely opinion.

Tell me which of the following you perform (or receive/enjoy):

Fellatio, cunnilingus, rimming, group sex, anal sex, vaginal sex, fisting, anal play, fingering, role play, furry play, bondage, sadomasochism, humiliation, autofellatio, masturbation, exhibitionism, cougars (or MILF), grannies (or GMILF), daddies, silver daddies, rape fantasies, copraphilia, vorarephilia, watersports, gore, zoophilia, necrophilia, pederasty, ephebophilia, gloryholes, bukakke, transgendered, cross dressers etc.

All of these (and more) are enjoyed around the world. At the end of the day, what we choose to approve of comes down to opinion and personal preference. It helps that we try to get along with each other by agreeing on general criteria like "if it hurts someone, or degrades them, it should be banned" but there are always disagreements and most of this isn't illegal. Most of it isn't homosexual either.

The point is that you can't condemn homosexual sex as perverse without making one reflect on the perversity of sex itself.

There are sociological and psychological factors for homosexual behaviors, which would take up too much space here, but we are starting to see the effect it is having on our children when the adults are pushing it on the rest of society.

I've observed that the newer generations are each becoming more and more open to their true sexualities. Teenage boys and girls are testing their curiosity and finding out that they are bisexual and that it isn't something to be ashamed of.

By being told it's Ok, by adults, children get mixed signals from their peers. Children are very cruel to each other, and sex is one of the things that they are too emotionally immature to handle in the first place.

Which is why we should be eliminating the stigma on sex and sexuality caused by close-minded people. Children simply mimic their parents, and if we make our society tolerant of sex and sexuality, children will reflect this.

When you add "perverted" behaviors into the mix, you create even more confusion within the young mind. For one child to admit to being a homosexual is akin to social death: undoubtedly they will be bullied and teased.

Not any longer. Being homosexual or bisexual isn't a crime, and in many modern, liberal cities being openly homosexual or bisexual is accepted.

Do you know what is sad? Some of my friends, who are older adults now, regret that only recently they may test the waters to determine if they are bisexual. They followed the heterosexual path for thirty years because of a stigma created by bigots and insecure people, but now they can comfortably find themselves.

Personally, I don't care what two adults do behind closed doors. I just think that I do not want them telling young children that is perfectly ok to engage in homosexual behaviors.

Creating a stigma leads to repression, which causes all sorts of nasty behaviours. It is much healthier for society to accept these things warmly, because it leads to less bitterness at having to pretend to be something you aren't.

There are lots of children that are just sexually curious, and I don't want children exposed to this kind of behavior. I don't care for open sexual behavior in public with heterosexuals adults either.

Kissing? Kissing doesn't harm anybody to witness it.

Side: No
1 point

Homosexuals won't give BIRTH right? It TRULY will reduce our POPULATION. Can you imagine the world with gays and less population? how will the world SURVIVE? I guess it's already clear, so I mustn't tell you whether it's right or wrong

Side: yes
zombee(1026) Disputed
2 points

Homosexuals won't give BIRTH right?

Homosexuals are perfectly capable of producing biological offspring and many of them do. Many others would adopt, were they permitted to, and by doing so they would still contribute to the propogation of the species by caring for children that already exist.

It TRULY will reduce our POPULATION.

I cannot imagine a worse fate! Just kidding. Homosexuality's been around forever and it hasn't wiped us out yet. I don't think we need to worry.

Can you imagine the world with gays and less population? how will the world SURVIVE?

Same as it always has, I'd imagine.

Side: No
1 point

homosexuality is wrong. in the bible it has a story about Sodom and Gomorrah. there existed lots of homosexuality there.God got tired of it and he destroyed both cities with fire. do you want this to happen to us?

Side: yes
1 point

the homosexuality is wrong:

1. that will make population reduce...

because of they cann't get a baby

2. it will influenced people around them

Side: yes
chododo(63) Disputed
1 point

1.The population of the world is growing too fast and is too large and, anyway, the population of homosexuals isn't that big

2.People are born homosexual or not homosexual, living near someone who is homosexual won't make you one. One of my close relatives is homosexual and I'm still straight

Side: No
0 points

Homosexuals do have the same rights as heterosexuals. They just can't marry another homosexual.

Homosexual activity isn't natural its a choice and a illness.

Side: yes
Akulakhan(2985) Disputed
8 points

I could never choose to be gay, and respectively I do not believe gay persons could choose to be straight. If I didn't choose my sexuality, why should I assume another could?

Side: No
aveskde(1935) Disputed
7 points

Homosexuals do have the same rights as heterosexuals. They just can't marry another homosexual.

Homosexuals are denied marriage and the state-created incentives that come with it.

Homosexuals are denied the ability to adopt children.

Homosexuals are denied the ability to serve in the military. If you are gay openly in the military you are discharged.

Homosexuals may not donate blood.

Homosexual activity isn't natural its a choice and a illness.

So you're telling me that you choose to be aroused by women, or transsexuals, or whatever perverse fantasy catches your eye? That is what you are arguing here, that your fantasies are entirely your choice with none of it out of your control.

Side: No
Sulith(508) Disputed
4 points

choose to be aroused by women

Are you that fucking stupid? That IS humanly natural our hormones prove that.

Homosexuals may not donate blood.

Yeah because they spread STDs' like crazy.

Homosexuals are denied the ability to serve in the military. If you are gay openly in the military you are discharged.

The military isn't a place to be smackin each others asss'

Homosexuals are denied the ability to adopt children.

I'm glad, they can't spread their disease on innocent minds.

That is what you are arguing here, that your fantasies are entirely your choice with none of it out of your control.

Yes, homosexuality is total choice. Not natural.

Side: yes
zombee(1026) Disputed
3 points

Heterosexuals have the right to marry the consenting adult they wish to marry. Homosexuals do not. This is kind of where the problem is.

Homosexuality occurs in nature, so, by definition, it is natural. It also occurs in all countries and all cultures, so it is natural for humans and not just animals.

Side: No
Sulith(508) Disputed
0 points

It is not humanly natural. No human being is born 'gay'. As far as I am concerned there is no such thing as a 'gay' human being. It is a choice to involve yourself in a 'homosexual' activity.

Side: yes
shomos5(27) Disputed
3 points

its not an illness its a personal choice no one is asking you to agree. and its a personal choice if you choose not to agree

Side: No
0 points

yes. it's very very wrong. why because is violate god's rules. and for what be a homosexual, the amount of women is more than the amount of man in this world. it's mean still there are so many girls that we can marry. thank you

Side: yes
BlackSheep(203) Disputed
2 points

The problem is picking which deity's rules to follow.

On and your analysis is flawed. Your forgot to take into account that there are about as many lesbians as gays so you are still left with the same number of women to choose from.

Side: No
5 points

The question asks is it wrong, then the subtext says do homosexuals deserve the same rights. My answer is no and yes. A confusing debate with poorly worded proposition.

Side: No
2 points

This fight for civil rights amongst that of the homosexual population mirrors that of the blacks civil rights movement. While they're not being banned from schools, or segregated. They still face the same discrimination. What is wrong with today's society? And don't you dare come in preaching god hates fags. Show me some hard proof there is a god, and I don't mean the damn bible. Homosexuality is NOT a disease. AIDS is NOT a gay disease. And for crying out loud, it's about damn time we show our support for our peers. GAY PRIDE!

Side: No
2 points

Although I myself am homosexual,I do not think that it is up to a single person to decide whether it is right or wrong. Everyone has their own opinion and while it may right to one person,it may be wrong to another. I personally don't think it's wrong because for me at least,it's natural. It's something I have always been since I can remember. Now,speaking from a more broad perspective,I do not think that society,as a whole should consider it wrong. That's a pretty big and harsh judgement to place upon a specific group of people. Gay rights and such shouldn't even have to be fought for,these are things that should already exist due to the equality that the U.S. Constitution grants all of us as Americans. Whether you think it is wrong or right should not influence your decision to vote on laws like "gay marriage",what does it matter to you if two people want to get married? It shouldn't matter at all as long as they aren't like trying to force you into a gay marriage. Come on America,it's time to think more like Americans and less like a group of dictators.

Side: No
2 points

No. And it's not a question of "Is it natural" or "Is it a choice"? It's a matter of affording the same rights to all American citizens. Why? Because we're America and it's supposed to be "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" not "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of a Set Type of Happiness We Deem Acceptable"

Side: No
1 point

Whether it's right or wrong depends on your own morality. There is no right or wrong in reality, so no.

Side: No
2 points

exactly, there are no rules, only the ones you make up.

The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

Side: No
2 points

Precisely

The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

Side: No
1 point

No it is not. It is no more wrong than heterosexuality or liking apples. People are who they are and as long as they don't harm others then it is all good.

Side: No
1 point

it isn't peoples fault if they are born homosexual and why should people have to hide there feelings? i think there is nothing wrong with it as one of the nicest people i know is homosexual but really kind.

Side: No
1 point

Hell no. Love is love people get over it and move on with your life. Let people love who they want. People can have own families getting married like sister wives..I mean really. So why can't they have the same gender get married. You know back in the day when they treated the blacks differently just because they are black? well its the same these days just with gays, grow up and get over it. I support Gay 100% Love is love.

Side: No

Homosexuality is not wrong. A person is born Gay just like a person is born Straight.

Side: No