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 How Was The World Created? (327)

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How Was The World Created?

There are many views which one is the better view.

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5 points

Ok so we have the Big Bang theory which an explosion occurred ( from nothing but nothingness).

Or there is the choice of there being a supreme other that created the world.

Big Bang theory sounds good on paper, but how can something come from nothing?

The supreme being sounds a little out there, but how did the supreme being come into existence?

I mean I would like to believe both but honestly it is all based on opinions, nothing is factual until we die. Were the preacher either says "SHIT!" or "I knew it all along!"

Side: Nobody knows unless they are dead
2 points

I mean I would like to believe both but honestly it is all based on opinions, nothing is factual until we die. Were the preacher either says "SHIT!" or "I knew it all along!"

I strongly suspect that preachers (or anyone else for that matter) will have as much to say when they're dead, as they did before they were born.

Side: Nobody knows unless they are dead
1 point

It was an analogy, try an lighten up.

Side: Nobody knows unless they are dead
1 point

I also hardley think the preacher would say "SHIT" if he was a preacher

Side: Nobody knows unless they are dead
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
0 points

i know everything is confusing and each is supposedly just opinions but i challenge you to find it in your heart to check out a "living" church and study the Bible. If you do not have access to a Bible then you can ask a me or a pastor at a nearby church.

Side: God Created Everything
TruthAnalyst(48) Disputed
1 point

The Big Bang theory doesn't state creation from nothing.

It states that all of the mass-energy in the universe was compacted into a very small point, and exploded from there.

Supporting Evidence: Big Bang Theory Explained(NASA) (map.gsfc.nasa.gov)
Side: God and Nature Aren't Mutually Exclusive
3 points

I like the 'bounce theory', the proper name for it slips me, but it is a theory in which there always has been, is, and always will be existence, where gravity will pull things in tightly together, for an incomprehensible amount of time, before exploding, giving off the big bang, and was the push of the bang gradually fades, everything will be sucked in once more, and the cycle repeats.

I like this idea because it makes the universe seem flexible... Almost open to manipulation.

Side: Gravity and a lot of space gunk
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
0 points

How has there always been something there. Please explain.

Side: God Created Everything
gcomeau(536) Disputed
3 points

So God wasn't always there then in your version? Fascinating. Who made him then?

Alternatively, if we're going to accept the hypothesis that things can exist eternally, why should we find it more likely that your magical superbeing is that thing than something we can see with our own two eyes actually exists? Namely, the universe?

Side: Gravity and a lot of space gunk
2 points

How did god make something from nothing, how does god exist? Please explain.

Side: Nature
-1 points

Evolution is retarded. it goes completely against the scientific theory saying "nonliving matter cannot create a living thing". I do not know why Evolutionists still dont get it. You are making scientific theories wrong by trying to make your stupid theory right. It just can't work that way.

Side: God Created Everything
DaWolfman(3322) Disputed
1 point

Since evolutionists are so dumb and creationists are so intelligent, please give me the facts opposed to me telling you why evolution is real.

Remember not to say these words, as I wouldn't want to call your belief system retarded!

-Don't say a book told me so ( I'm looking for facts see )

-Don't tell me how God created everything in 7 days, tell me where he came from

-And do not under any circumstance quote the book that told you so

Side: Nobody knows unless they are dead
Imarageonyou(4) Disputed
1 point

Okay but if there was a so called god how did YOU get on to this earth . Okay theres a mightier powernout there but we dont know that theres a god who out mary and joesph on the earth but what came before them? Animals , dinosaurs , whatever you wanna call them. and IF god put mary and joesph on the earth and they had children well we would all be inbreds . That wouldve been called incest. Which wouldve cause LOTS of birth defects so therefore you cant say evolution isnt what happened because we would 1. Either be massively defective or 2. Just plain discusting people for doing that. Maybe it was normal. I want you to prove theres a god. The big bang theory ends with " the god factor" BUT you cant prove thT theres a god to begin with.

Side: God Created Everything
Kingly342(29) Disputed
1 point

Have you heard of the Miller Urey experiment? It proved living things can come from Non-living things. Try researching it before you make more accusations. Boom.

Side: God Created Everything
3 points

Composite materials were attracted together by gravity. Time progresses, ground becomes solid, oceans become liquid, and life becomes prevalent.

Side: Gravity and a lot of space gunk
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
0 points

Where did time, ground, oceans, life, gravity, and composite materials come from?

Side: God Created Everything
Akulakhan(2973) Disputed
3 points

Energy. All matter is energy in a physical state. Time is the transaction of energy.

Side: Gravity and a lot of space gunk
aveskde(1935) Disputed
3 points

Where did time, ground, oceans, life, gravity, and composite materials come from?

Nature, and always existed.

Side: Nature
aveskde(1935) Disputed
2 points

Where did time, ground, oceans, life, gravity, and composite materials come from?

The big bang, not god.

Side: Nature
2 points

God Created the heavens and the earth(Genisis 1:1) whats wrong with u people?!?

Side: Nature
qaworld101(16) Disputed
1 point

Do you have proof that you could share to us that this god of yours truly is the creator of the world; something realistic instead of relying on that book?

Side: Nature
2 points

I believe in the Big Bang theory. It is a possible way in which the world came to be. There is no proof of a creator whatsoever.

Side: Nature
1 point

Well, I guess it's story. A long long time ago, about 4 billion, or so, years, there was this cloud of space dust and rocks and various things like that. Well this space gunk wasn't very happy being just a bunch of space gunk so it asked it's buddy, Gravity, to help it out.

"Hey Gravity, can you help me become a planet? I don't very much like being a bunch of space gunk." Said the rather melancholic cloud of space gunk.

"Sure thing buddy. But... you may want to look a way... no...don't worry it won't hurt that much" Said Gravity in a joyous manner, and then Gravity used his magic powers to create a lot of pressure on the center of space gunk,

" I feel funny" chuckled Space Gunk as he pretty much imploded on himself creating a molten ball of iron and lots of dirt... well the iron being rather dense sank to the core and in its state of being hot aligned it self to become extremely magnetic. He stayed like this for a hundred million years until he cooled off and became a solid planet.

"Thanks buddy"

"no problem"

Billions of years later a bacteria infection that came from nowhere manifested it self into sentient beings... this kind of bugged the now named "Earth" but, that's a story for a different day.

The End.

Side: Gravity and a lot of space gunk
1 point

I'd've stayed a dust cloud. (I always wanted to write a three-part comtracted word!)

Side: Gravity and a lot of space gunk
1 point

Sometimes we don't know what's best until after it's too late.

Side: Gravity and a lot of space gunk
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
0 points

I will summarize your story something came from nothing. The nothing exploded it formed everything. The earth was nothing but a bowl of soup. Non-living things formed into living things (so that means we evolved from a rock) and now here we are today.

Side: Gravity and a lot of space gunk
gcomeau(536) Disputed
3 points

Oh, well.. if we're summarizing stories then we should prefer "It was magic!"?

Is that what we're supposed to take away from this? Gravitational attraction of particulate matter in space is just SILLY! Therefore it was obviously an invisible all powerful magical superbeing that waved his hand and created everything. Duh.

Side: Gravity and a lot of space gunk
zproach(252) Disputed
1 point

Well no...

something can from space gunk is most definitely something...

It's more like we evolved from liquid chemicals and gaseous chemicals then rocks... solids don't happen to react a lot...

Side: Nature
aveskde(1935) Disputed
1 point

I will summarize your story something came from nothing. The nothing exploded it formed everything. The earth was nothing but a bowl of soup. Non-living things formed into living things (so that means we evolved from a rock) and now here we are today.

I think you just described creationism there. Only creationism teaches that something came from nothing. You know, creation ex nilho? That means "from nothing." Creationism teaches that nothing became something, and that something was magically poofed into a universe by... magic!

Side: Nature
Snehith(2) Disputed
1 point

It's called matter. Matter has always existed. It cannot be destroyed. We did not evolve from rocks. We evolved from DNA and RNA molecules that came from hydrothermal vents and/or the Earth's atmosphere.

Side: Nature
0 points

hey where did all that "space gunk" come from? Where did space come from? So your basically saying that we came from space gunk or some kind of soup? THERE HAS TO HAVE BEEN SOME KIND OF A CREATOR TO CREATE THE "SPACE GUNK" YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. I believe God was the creator not of the "space gunk" but of the whole universe

Side: Nature

The world wasn't created. It was formed.

But if you must know: my cat did it last Thursday.

Side: Nature
lawnman(1106) Disputed
2 points

Would you assert that the world is formed by matter that was ultimately created as a consequence of the Big Bang?

Both of us have a speculation of the origin of matter, and it behooves us both to remain mindful of that fact. But damn, it sure is entertaining to poke at our viewpoints, both mine and yours.

Side: Nature
Mahollinder(893) Disputed
1 point

Would you assert that the world is formed by matter that was ultimately created as a consequence of the Big Bang?

Nah. The Big Bang was simply a quick expansion of already existing matter and the separation of the forces (Strong, Weak, Gravity and Electromagnetic (and possibly others)).

Side: Nature
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
-1 points

It was created by God. Who created it in 6 days. Explain you formation of the world.

Side: Nature
Mahollinder(893) Disputed
2 points

Explain you formation of the world.

I can only really give you a simplified explanation since I'm not an astronomer or cosmologist. But basically, planetary formation begins in circumstellar disks. Large and small scale accretion of planetismals and protoplanets of variable size takes place. They exist bimodally in the circumstellar disk and undergo variable rates of growth. (A protoplanet is a spherical, nonrotating, nonmagnetic gas-object).

During the middle stages of accretion, planetary formation undergoes runaway growth and eventually settles into oligarchic growth, then chaotic. Oligarchs/sizable protplanets are kind of independent objects (they've reached an isolation mass, which permits them to break from the orbit of other objects) that initially repel each other, but various interactions overcome them and collision begins to take place. The larger protoplanets will merge with smaller objects, clear away other protoplanets and eventually become "planets" proper.

I could provide you a slightly more detailed analysis, but it would really only be slightly more detailed.

Side: Nature
freefallife(12) Disputed
1 point

Great. And everything must have a creator, according to you, so...who or what created god?

Side: Nature
Kingly342(29) Disputed
1 point

How could it have been created in six days if the sun was made on the '3rd day'?

Side: God Created Everything
1 point

I believe that the world, as it is now, has gotten to this point through the laws of nature. The Big Bang shaped the universe, laws of physics and chemistry formed the planets and stars, and evolution brought life from single cells all the way to complex humans. However, I don't believe this was just spontaneous. I think there was a greater being (God) who initiated the Big Bang, which, in turn, triggered everything else somewhat randomly until the present day. And things are still changing too!

Side: God created the Big Bang
alienator(1) Disputed
0 points

What caused the Big Bang? I don't think that the world could have just formed itself.

Side: God Created Everything
MKIced(2510) Disputed
1 point

Are you serious? I explicitly stated "I think there was a greater being (God) who initiated the Big Bang". Did you even read my argument?

Side: God created the Big Bang
1 point

It says in the Bible that God created the world and everything in it. And I believe this because if you look at the world how could the Earth just form itself there had to be a creator and I believe that God is the creator.

Side: God Created Everything
zproach(252) Disputed
3 points

Well... gravity has a tendency to pull things to together... pull together a bunch of space gunk and you've got yourself a planet.

Side: God Created Everything
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
1 point

How did the "space gunk form." Where did gravity come from.

Side: God Created Everything
Imarageonyou(4) Disputed
1 point

Im just saying right now that what your saying is incorrect but ill let you have your opinion, first off . Only SOME OF THE BIBLE IS TRUE. mary, joesph , jesus, sure all thats real but you cant say that god created earth and anything on i because how are we to prove god is real? Anyway, some chemicals merged, created gravity, gravity pulled a bunch of things together and one day the pressure from gravity got too much , so therefore the stuff imploded to make a planet , this happened many times to make the earth, planets and space what it is today (:

Side: Gravity and a lot of space gunk
1 point

Did God create the World or was there a big bang? Do you have anything to back your theory up?

Side: God Created Everything
aveskde(1935) Disputed
3 points

Did God create the World or was there a big bang? Do you have anything to back your theory up?

The big bang formed the universe. This is proven by the continual expansion of the universe and by satellite telescopes which collect images of the universe from many billions of light years away, meaning we have seen the early universe with our own eyes (because the extreme size of the universe means that light from 13 billion years ago is only now reaching us). Plus there is cosmic background radiation.

Side: Nature
1 point

It has something to do with our atoms and astronomy. I also belive that god works with science.

Side: Nature
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
0 points

So do you believe God used the big bang or God created the world what?

Side: Nature
1 point

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Side: Nature
1 point

Existence is prior to everything else, it allows for both the possibility of subsistence and non-subsistence (somethingness and nothingness). Since these two are equally as probable subsistence seems to be an inevitability. thus the manifestation of energy matter. from there the material evolution of the universe manifested stars and planets via gravity and fusion and radiation allows for more complex organic molicules to form from less complex molicules. This was the precurser to life and life formed when a molicule became recapitulating and capable of greater complexity ie RNA and DNA. Diversification from there resulted in the current state of existence as we humans percieve as a non-unique part of this whole system

Side: Nature
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
0 points

Evolution states that things will evolve in to something better and more advanced. If this true then why is the universe and the world "deteriorating." Nothing is exactly what it is "no thing." Therefore how can subsistences come from nothing. If you say it was just there then that is the same thing as saying that God was just there.

Side: God Created Everything
aveskde(1935) Disputed
0 points

Evolution states that things will evolve in to something better and more advanced.

Prove that. I say it doesn't.

Evolution maintains that live will grow in complexity over time, and become more adjusted to its environment.

If this true then why is the universe and the world "deteriorating."

It isn't. I doubt you even understand what it is you're trying to say.

Nothing is exactly what it is "no thing." Therefore how can subsistences come from nothing.

Under certain circumstances, namely a quantum vacuum, particles can manifest from a void. This is because in our universe, there is no "nothing." Even a vacuum has electromagnetic waves.

If you say it was just there then that is the same thing as saying that God was just there.

Not really. One is supported by observation and mathematics, the other is just a guess.

Side: Nature
1 point

Why does it matter how we came to exist? We are nothing more than food for Great Cthulhu.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

IA! IA!

Side: Nature

IA! IA! Angst fhtagn!

Side: Nature
1 point

No one can really know for sure, but it's a waste of time arguing about it, or as this lovely picture depicts it, why argue and fight over something we'll never find out?

Supporting Evidence: Says it all. (imgur.com)
Side: Nobody knows unless they are dead

The world was created billions of years ago over the course of millions of years when carbon gasses and debris circling the Sun condensed together from the force of gravity into the ball of hot, molten rock that was the first Earth.

Somewhere near the end of this condensation cycle, a Mercury-sized asteroid barreled towards Earth at billions of miles per hour and collided with it. This 'Giant Hit' caused the cycle of Earth's formation to be disrupted, in the fact that the collision cause the minerals composing the asteroid and the minerals with the Earth to spill outward from the fetal Earth like blood spilling from a wounded warrior.

These minerals then were caught in the gravitational pull of the Earth, and slowly, nearing the end of Earth's formation cycle, these stray minerals formed the Moon.

One or two billions of years later, Earth begins to sport an atmosphere and then some water.

So and so billions of years later from that, here we are.

Side: Nobody knows unless they are dead

Science is the best process we currently have for discovering truth. When we look out into deep space, we see everything moving away from us at increasing speeds.

It follows scientifically that there either is, or was at some point, sufficient force to cause this separation. Following backwards, the only explanations for this expansion are Dark Energy and something along the lines of a Big Bang. The Big Bang theory is simply our best explanation currently.

However, there is no reason to think that, if the universe was created with a Big Bang, that such a truth would exclude God from being the Creator. Imagine it this way. Let's say we prove the Big Bang possible by compacting energy into a tiny point, releasing it in a vacuum, and observing a sort of mini-universe taking shape. That would basically prove the Big Bang was possible as an explanation.

However, if we could take energy, compact it, and release it in a vacuum, who is to say that God couldn't have done the same thing to create our universe?

We may never know, but it is fun to try and figure it out.

Side: God and Nature Aren't Mutually Exclusive
1 point

the big bang and all was there just like that also i think that it was made up of different planets and the big bang melted them together.

Side: God and Nature Aren't Mutually Exclusive
0 points

The world was created by God. Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

Side: God Created Everything
Akulakhan(2973) Disputed
3 points

And where did god come from? How can he be manifested before existence?

Side: Gravity and a lot of space gunk
zproach(252) Disputed
1 point

It's okay... I like your story too...even if you are just citing non-verifiable books written about 1800-2000 years ago.

Side: God Created Everything
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
1 point

Evolutionists believe that living things came from non-living things which is scientifically IMPOSSIBLE. Its okay i will not laugh at you for believing something created in the 1800's by People who do not want God to be real.

Side: God Created Everything
MKIced(2510) Disputed
1 point

Although the Bible does give explicit directions on how the Earth was made, do you personally believe in all of these claims verbatim? Do you believe that the Earth was made in 4000BC (or so)? Do you believe that God single-handedly created all of the animals that exist to this day? I'm just curious because when I think of a Christian fundamentalist that believes these things, I typically don't imagine them having internet access. ;) No offense or anything to you.

By the way, I'm not trying to insult you or anything. I'm also a Christian and I believe in God and the Bible and everything. I just don't think that the entire Bible is factual stories. I believe that some of the stories are merely in the Bible to teach lessons on morality, God's power, etc. :)

Side: God created the Big Bang
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
1 point

Yes i do believe that God created everything verbatim. I do believe that everything in the Bible is true for if one thing is false then how can you trust the other stuff in the Bible.

Side: God created the Big Bang
freefallife(12) Disputed
1 point

The bible says it so it must be true? Why am I having trouble with that one? Perhaps a little more critical thinking on your part might open things up.

Side: God Created Everything
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
1 point

Maybe you are having trouble with it because of your ignorance to believe in God. God put the words of the Bible through all of the authors. So that means it must be true.

Side: God Created Everything
Snehith(2) Disputed
1 point

But there is no proof to that. However, there is proof that evolution is there. Fossil record, genetics, diversity in species, etc.

Side: God Created Everything
aveskde(1935) Disputed
0 points

The world was created by God. Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Conservation of energy states that matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed. Ergo "god" created nothing, it's impossible.

Try again.

Side: Nature
JesusFreak(174) Disputed
1 point

If matter and energy can't be created or destroyed then doesn't that go against evolution to because evolution says something came from nothing?

Side: God Created Everything
0 points

Let's go back about 29 gazillion billion years ago, when I was God's right hand man. He said unto me: I'm bored NVYN! What should I do for some fun?

That's when I told him: Your Eternalness, it's not my place to tell you what you should do, but if I was you, which I'm not and never have the ambition to be, I would create the world...

..... nothing happened for a few gazillion years, I later found out from a trusty source that God was waiting for me to forget about my suggestion so that he wouldn't look stupid when he created the world, so it would look like it was his idea all along.

.... then in the 130947th year (OTLOG), he snapped his fingers, some dust flew out and then he breathed unto the dust and said something magical, and thus matter was created. Since then, God's been creating rules for how the world should be formed: energy and the way it should behave, atoms and the way subatomic particles should behave, magnetic fields and gravity and how they should behave, evolution, how different elements behave, etc.

.... The most fun that God had was when he started creating the living creatures, they were quite a challenge. He actually created 10 different worlds, each with its own unique universe and a different set of rules: for example, in this world gravity sucks things towards it and light travels in a straight line, in another world gravity pushes everything away and light travels in spirals outwards from the source, etc...

... perhaps one day when God gets bored again, he'd allow the different worlds somehow come into contact with each other... you never know...

.... Anyways, I made the mistake of telling him that this whole thing was my idea, so here I am on Earth with all of you... yay!!!

Side: It was my idea
0 points

The chances of the world happening by chance (evolution) is impossible. You can't comprehend it.

Side: God Created Everything
aveskde(1935) Disputed
3 points

The chances of the world happening by chance (evolution) is impossible. You can't comprehend it.

Evolution doesn't create worlds. Nebulas and gravity do.

Side: Nature
0 points

The entire universe is dependant on something else. We are dependant on Earth, sun, gravity etc... the sun is dependant on a ballance between gravity and expolding atoms. So, in the center, is a totally independant, self-dependant being God. Everything is winding down. Everything needs something else. If God didn't exist, and the big bang, or "gravity and a lot of space gunk" happened, where would the two thing that collided, or all that space gunk have come from anyway? I fyou say it was there since eternity, then how can you say God wasn't?!?!?!?!

Side: God Created Everything
0 points

The Earth was created by a man named ZOR , from ancient times. He was traveling through Space on an Asteroid and saw a void in space ,, well ZOR ate Beans that morning , which gave him gas , well he let a fart and created Earth ... well maybe not , actually Think Earth was created by something we will never understand.

Side: God Created Everything