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How can you be sure that the bible wasn't lying to you?
It's quite easy to make a story. Examples such as Noah's Ark match perfectly into the definition of a story. The same goes with the rest of the bible, what with the talking snakes and talking donkeys. We definitely don't see these things everyday, and to believe they still occur would be a delusion.
Plus, the bible is full of slavery condoning, sexism encouraging, filicidal blundering that completely falsifies the existence of an infinitely moral God.
Christians are just basically a bunch of confused people with twisted definitions, just like the rest of these earthly religions.
Because of all the interpolations, which is the nice way of saying forgeries. If only the believers knew how busy the founders were at the ole forgery mill.
OK, even if it does not appear today. I think it is a change of style. But humans have the same problems, frustrations and ego. People who have a relationship with God will understand.Miracles happen every religion. About teaching, for the people who understand.
I think it is a change of style : Period of time that we have a problem.It may be that we need to understand the words.It may contain words such as culture, we need to understand what it takes. God never intended us to interpret directly. It was understood by the intellect
I feel like your comments are the result of a poorly conceived game of Mad Libs. Ignoring that though.
Period of time that we have a problem
Odd how of all the text written in the same period as the Bible (and other "holy" texts) it is only these "holy" texts which remain forever a mystery. Seems a bit too convenient.
It may be that we need to understand the words.It may contain words such as culture, we need to understand what it takes
Oh, the culture is pretty easy to understand. Women are property, it's okay to beat (and of course own) slaves so long as you don't beat them all the way dead, and if a kid smarts off to you it's cool to stone them to death.
The culture is easy. The hard part is when you religious types try to justify it.
God never intended us to interpret directly
God needs to figure out a way to make his intent more clear. You'd think this would be a simple thing for an all powerful being.
It was understood by the intellect
Who the fuck's the intellect? And why aren't they explaining it then to the rest of you morons?
We can be sure that the Bible wasn't lying because its God's word. God is perfect and why would God lie to us when He explained everything that happened in the past.
Well I have faith that the Harry Potter Books are real! I have faith that magic is real!
With a bible that condones slavery, sexism, and says it's okay to stone children to death for swearing at their parents, who would want to put faith in that?
You can choose to have faith I whatever you want. Some feel the bible represents the historical accounts of Jesus. It could be mythical, magical or whatever. But, there are many who feel this is real and was produced to represent fact not fiction. You can choose to believe it or not. I don't think that the Harry Potter series was ever considered anything but fiction.
And, I said I Interpret it as I desire...not.others. Yes, practices at the time condoned many of the things you state, but the bible was about Jesus with many of the practices of the time added as historical color not relevant to the actual text itself.
I believe you are using words humans wrote to make an argument for something that may not have happened at all, but is illustrative of the acts, etc. Of Jesus a human which God sent to this earth. Since Jesus was human, he had all of the same issues and ills we have. I never said God said or condoned those things. You are merely using them in favor of your position, but it is wrong for either of us to say that God exists or doesn't based on the bible.
I believe I am using words straight from the bible. There are verses, directly quoted from God that say that children will deserve to die if they were to swear. There are also verses that say you can keep slaves and beat them to the brink of death.
Are you not going to justify these direct quotes from your own God?
I believe I am using words straight from the bible. There are verses, directly quoted from God that say that children will deserve to die if they were to swear. There are also verses that say you can keep slaves and beat them to the brink of death.
No your not using words that are straight from the Bible. It says in Leviticus 20:9 that if you curse your parents you will be stoned to death. Its not swearing. Learn the difference
There are alternate verses of this same verse, with the words "revileth" which means "to insult/swear" and to "dishonor" which is also known as dissing/swearing.
Do you even know what you are saying? Swear words were around when humans couldn't even speak!
Swearing is also a natural evolutionary tool to deal with pain, and before I just said that there were alternate verses that say "revileth" which means to insult.
And why the heck do you think a swear word deserves you death by stoning?
Do I have to repeat myself that alternate versions of this verse says "revileth"!?
Revileth means to insult/swear.
That's right srom, they had a word back then called "revile(th)," and since "to revileth" means "to swear," there were in fact swear words in biblical times.
I think you have been missing the point of all of my posts. The bible is a text of texts, written by men, it is I perfect as men are imperfect. If we were to write the bible today, it would contain different yet similar imperfections. So why you continue to attack something I am not disputing is strange. The bible isn't lying, but it is certainly imperfect.
Such an unstable foundation for your religion. Do you realize that the outrageous verses written in the bible match the same style of wording for the rest of the bible. This means either God failed English class, or the whole thing was written by man, and man alone, just like Harry Potter (well it was in fact written by a woman.)
And since the bible is basically the foundation of the whole of Christianity; Christianity is just another one of those man-made cults. Nothing special.
What? According to Christianity, the end isnt due until the end of all the signs, and they havent all happened. So what do you mean by "The end never happened to our great great great great great great parents."?
If it never happened to our great, great, great, etc parents, then who's to say that when we become great, great, etc parents that the end would arrive? And when Jesus finally comes in the future-future, the people of the future-future would think Jesus was shitty. Since Jesus is immortal, his appearance wouldn't evolve to look like the hairless-big-headed humans of the future, and he would also look like a freak with his primal robe, and deficient sword. And if all the demons come out from hell, couldn't they all be easily vaporized with future human tech? And why would this battle take place on Apocalypse in a tiny little, insignificant Earth, amongst other life-bearing galaxies who would watch in jealousy as they would not be taken to heaven, due to not fitting the image of God?
If it never happened to our great, great, great, etc parents, then who's to say that when we become great, great, etc parents that the end would arrive?
Because all the signs weren't fulfilled when our great great grandparents were alive. They are all almost fulfilled so it is supposed to happen pretty soon.
And when Jesus finally comes in the future-future, the people of the future-future would think Jesus was shitty.
I dont think this is an argument. You're just guessing.
Since Jesus is immortal, his appearance wouldn't evolve to look like the hairless-big-headed humans of the future,
Wait are you joking? I'm pretty sure you must be.
and he would also look like a freak with his primal robe, and deficient sword.
Trust me, his sword wont be deficient.
And if all the demons come out from hell, couldn't they all be easily vaporized with future human tech?
Ummm no? Because no mater how much out technology advances, it will always be limited to the physical realm. Demons are spiritual so it wouldnt even be able to hurt them.
And why would this battle take place on Apocalypse in a tiny little, insignificant Earth, amongst other life-bearing galaxies who would watch in jealousy as they would not be taken to heaven, due to not fitting the image of God?
Uhhhhhh according to the Bible, there are no other life bearing galaxies....
Because all the signs weren't fulfilled when our great great grandparents were alive. They are all almost fulfilled so it is supposed to happen pretty soon.
That's just part of the trick.
I dont think this is an argument. You're just guessing.
Well the bible clearly says it; why not?
Wait are you joking? I'm pretty sure you must be.
Well it is inevitable that we will be ending up looking like that. The proof of evolution is right on your body, and that is why chances are getting higher that we are getting born with no lower rib cage, and is also evident why new generations have been born with bigger heads, less hair and smaller pinky toes. In fact, the lil pinky toe will completely vanish off the body of humans in the near future, due to it's growing uselessness for evolution. And since Jesus is forever immortalized into a bearded white guy, you can't help but think- he would look like a damn caveman.
Trust me, his sword wont be deficient.
In the future, swords would be so old that no one would know what they were, and his sword kinda looks crappy, even though it is an item of infinity that should be one of the heavenly defining factors of our existence.
Ummm no? Because no mater how much out technology advances, it will always be limited to the physical realm. Demons are spiritual so it wouldnt even be able to hurt them.
Did you know that there are types of angels in the bible as described as naked flying babies with wings that should be attached to a bird (no different to a griffin) and there are also angels that are "wheels within wheels, with eyes all over their rims." How retarded would that look? It sure as hell would make this universe no longer epic than it should be. Not to mention how demons would look like cheesy red people with hooves and horns that should belong to a bull, (no different from the mythical centaurs.) It's all just myths to explain what people didn't understand. And if human technology was deficient, how about they just shoot holes in the ground where the demons run, so they could fall in them? The ground is physical, yet they can walk on them... wheres the logic in that? And the Earth is like physically moving hundreds of miles a second in it's orbit around the sun. And why would the demons that are uprising from the ground become affected by gravity? Isn't gravity a boring old physical force that appears around a large/dense body of mass?
Uhhhhhh according to the Bible, there are no other life bearing galaxies....
Well then, the bible is hopeless and dumb, and by the day we find life on other planets which is quite likely, the bible will get bitch slapped. Don't you know that there are worlds out there that have an atmosphere? Only a person of extreme ignorance would believe that only the human race exists. Understand the science between life on other worlds before trusting the bible. And anyway, why would God make such a large, spacious universe, and such a small insignificant planet, much smaller than the rest? And why would he also give the chance of us becoming completely obliterated by an asteroid at any time? And also, in the bible, it said that God had took work to make the sun, but made the stars with a mere thought. Didn't they know that stars were just like the sun, except there are kabillions and some are 10,000 times bigger?
How can you be sure of anything? You can only assume. The bible dates back to thousands of years ago. Who's to say that anyone who has rewritten the bible has swayed it to portray their beliefs. The bible has been re-written and printed so many times, who really knows if any of it is based on actual fact, or beliefs of the ones who wrote it. We could have Christianity completely wrong and be none the wiser because we have no actual fact. Bring me your proof, then I and no doubt a vast majority will believe you. Until then, it pretty much stays up in the air. Like every other debate, this is based on opinion, bias, and belief.
You can't be sure if the Bible is lying to you just as much as you can't be sure it's telling you the truth.