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It doesn't mean literally a village, it means children are influenced and protected by lots of people so we better try to make the best of that. So it also means if the child is surrounded by bad people it's at risk for not growing up right.
Civilization requires cooperation. In the very first instance you can’t raise a child without clean food to eat, pure water to drink, a safe house to live in, a doctor to mend their bodies, a boss who pays us for our work, a cop to keep us safe........... I could go on.
To suggest that we could live a good clean healthy life without those things, belies the truth.
The benefits of society serve to aid parents in the raising of the child. Society does not directly have much at all to do with the raising. It takes parents to raise a child. Parents will do better in society than in the woods, but the job is for the parents.
I agree, I also believe that a larger community of people who care about a child is better than a smaller one. The main caregivers and teachers are the parents of course but boosting a child up or helping them pick themselves off the ground if they fall, shouldn't solely rely on the parents. A village could be anything from close family to friends to a community to an actual village.
A village could be anything from close family to friends to a community to an actual village.
Hi Mint , I grew up in a society that was totally run according to strict Catholic teachings , I wouldn’t wish it on anyone , people in general thought the way to treat a child was to beat information into him / her and children was treated appallingly in schools and places where parents were not present
Your scenario only works if it goes on the assumption that the greaterer society has your child’s best interests at heart , I think in a lot of cases the opposite is the case
Your scenario only works if it goes on the assumption that the greaterer society has your child’s best interests at heart
This is very true. So do you think the village is not important?
people in general thought the way to treat a child was to beat information into him / her and children was treated appallingly in schools and places where parents were not present
I would argue then that they don't care about the child, just the teachings.
Iwould argue then that they don't care about the child, just the teachings.
That’s the problem they think they are caring for the child , the teachings give them the freedom to terrorize and brutalise whilst justifying their behavior because the teachings think it’s for the best
Do you not think that the school's exam success rate was paramount and the children were only a means by which to glorify the Christian Brothers and to elevate the school's status?
There are fresh cases of shocking child sex abuse by the clergy at St, Coleman's and St, Josephs in Newry.
Check out Father Reid and Father Finnegan.
Seems like the whole sordid structure is collapsing like a house of cards.
Yes , it was all about the all powerful church Antrim , I can no longer read about the sickening abuse as it’s never ending and the worst thing is the amount of people who could have done something yet remained mute
A village isn’t even good at raising a child. People have different views and different methods. If you want a thoroughly confused, bitter, maybe violent human, leave him to the village.
It takes parents to raise a child. After the child is sufficiently raised, with its foundations sufficiently set, the village may (not must) assist with socializing, but that’s about it.
I will never deny that the parent's role in raising a child is essential, however that will depend on how good the parent's are. Even then, sometimes when a kid does wrong, the larger punishment is in knowing you let down your village, so to speak, and not just your parents.
Not only is the parents role essential, but the villages role is not essential. The most important role the village has is the formation of ones behavior within a village. But this role can be filled by parents alone, whereas the role of parents cannot be filled by a village. (This assumes the goodness and fitness of both parents and village.)
We have record numbers of children being raised by case workers, on food stamps, in broken homes, etc., all after this ludicrous idea of a village raising our children.
It takes a nation of religious freedom where any mention of moral values is not separated from public land.
It takes loving parents to raise a child! Start speaking out on the damage from the millions of broken homes created from this promiscuous self love culture we live in today.
Yes, it does take loving parents to raise a child. But how many times have we heard that not-so-loving parents abused/killed/starved their child? Too many. In instances like that the village needs to step up to protect the kid, do you not think so?
Rather than addressing the core reasons for so many broken homes, your answers are always putting more band aids on the problem.
More case workers IS NOT THE ANSWER!
STOPPING THE NEED FOR CASE WORKERS SHOULD BE EVERYONE'S PRIORITY!
Of course we need to help hurting children, but the focus must always be on preventing future broken homes and stopping the cycle.
Democrat answers always boils down to more unaffordable social programs while never addressing the causes.
It's a moral breakdown in our culture, and until people like you are ready to speak out about it, nothing will ever improve!
The insecure Left hates to admit we have a moral break down in our culture, because for them, a big socialistic Government is always the answer, and more votes for them.
Neighbors can watch for signs of abuse, teachers can watch for malnutrition, it takes a group of people to protect children sometimes, especially when the parents are unwilling.
There is NO way you are going to teach morals to everyone and there is NO way everyone will agree with your version of morals. We will never be able to prevent future broken homes 100%, we can certainly try, but reality is against you.
Back 60 years ago we did not have all these broken homes! WHY?
Because we had a culture that was not afraid of speaking to common sense moral values.
Our nation's christian values put our children's well being over our own self love. Our village spoke out against divorce, abandoning our children, career welfare, one night hookups, promiscuous sex, etc. etc.
The proof and reality of a village lifting up moral values DID WORK!
But we have people like you who can not stand to hear the village speaking out on common sense moral values that all Americans should support. You like the concept of a village, but only when it means no fault social programs with no mention of personal responsibility.
Puerile nonsense as anticipated , you said .........
Our nation's christian values put our children's well being over our own self love. Our village spoke out against divorce, abandoning our children, career welfare, one night hookups, promiscuous sex, etc. etc.
No doubt all to the soundtrack of the Waltons playing in the background where everyone ate apple pie after a hard day at the sawmill 😂😂😂
The U S was one of the very few countries in the world who segregated , demonized , brutalised and spit upon black students who merely wanted an eduction , would have them offer up their seats on a bus to “ good ole “ Christian whites , and had signs in cafes saying whites only
Christian nation my bollocks wonder what Jesus would have thought ?
LOL, always bring up the issue of slavery that the Democrat Party supported! GET REAL!
Christians were one of the groups fighting to end end slavery and racism.
I never said everything was perfect 60 years ago. I said they lifted up good family values and spoke often to the importance of family for our children.
I’m not American your obsession with politics in the U S is alarming , what you’re doing is looking at the U S in the past through your Johnboy Walton / Laura Ingels glasses ... cue the music
Christians were one of the groups fighting to end end slavery and racism.
Some where, sure. MANY others used their religion to PROMOTE segregation. And you must have forgotten your history if you want to suggest that Christians where more prevalent than ....oh....I don't know....just about any other group....in ending racism.
Hell, just typing Christians and racism can bring up some HORRIFYING pictures of Christians lynching blacks, none of which I'll post here but I need to go scrub my eyeballs.
That certainly rules you out then and I guess god would be all for gun rights also and would possibly carry a “ piece “ himself , fuck that blessed are the peacemakers nonsense
Will people like you ever get tired of using false Christians to make your judgmental assaults on Christians?
There you go trying to wash it all away. Those people thought they were fighting the cause of God, you can deny that all you want, doesn't change the fact that most people who were against black rights were Christian religious nutcases.
Back 60 years ago we did not have all these broken homes! WHY?
Because we didn't have social media or focus on broken homes as we do now? Also, yes we did. Where do you think that standing joke comes from about a man going out to buy cigarettes and never coming home? It's probably it hasn't been as high as it is now but I haven't done any research on the incline and what percentage it has invariably increased over the years. You keep thinking wanting to tout about the times when men where allowed to beat their wives and children, where racism was still rampant and white men were in charge. REAL life isn't the sitcom you want it to be. Real life isn't Mayberry.
But we have people like you who can not stand to hear the village speaking out on common sense moral values that all Americans should support.
Yet you JUST said: How's that village doing? We have record numbers of children being raised by case workers, on food stamps, in broken homes, etc., all after this ludicrous idea of a village raising our children."
That sounds to me like you are the one who can't stand to hear the village speaking out on common sense morals. I have said over a dozen times to you that while I think morals ARE important, they can't be the only thing we stand on.
You like the concept of a village, but only when it means no fault social programs with no mention of personal responsibility.
Wrong again. I have advocated personal responsibility enough times to you as well. You have either refused to listen or refused to understand in favor of your own preconceived notion.
Sorry, you made me laugh pretty hard. If you don't have a come back you don't need to respond. XD But really though, thank you, not even saying it to be mean, it was just a random "Hogwash".
In this debate you provide two choices for level of importance. Either “very” or “not at all”. This is a stark false dichotomy.
I side with “not at all” because the village can play an important role in the formation of a person, but given good parenting, it is not essential. The essential socializing role of society comes long after the essentials of childhood have been covered.
