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Carbonate minerals (from mildly alkaline water flowing from a field of hydrothermal vents (40-75C)) clumped into steep, white "chimneys" that rise from the sea bed like organ pipes. These rocks of alkaline vents were porous: they were pocked with tiny holes filled with water. These little pockets acted as "cells". Each pocket contained essential chemicals, including minerals like pyrite. Combined with the natural proton gradient from the vent, they were the ideal place for metabolism to begin. Once life had harnessed the chemical energy of the vent water, it started making molecules like RNA. Eventually it created its own membrane and became a true cell, and escaped from the porous rock into the open water.
Do you realize how many delicate balances within the smallest margins exist that would have to be perfect within a tight margin for life to even merely exist, let alone assemble itself and breathe life into itself?
Your an engineer, I assume you understand math.
Even just in creating all these marginal opportunities, all is being held together and kept in balance by Him.
That's a funny proposition to make, that anything with a low probability can happen, even once in almost infinite sets, only because of some God.
Say, sqrt(3) exists between the infinite set of (1,2), and finding it is extremely improbable in any random set. Thus, without a God, such a thing is impossible.
It'd be laughable if I didn't have sufficient reason to believe you're serious.
My point in evidence confirming the Bible is not religion, or who is God, or His "rules," or defining sin.
Before it has authority, lets see if it does have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt of a signature of Divine Authorship?
I want to bring attention to why should you examine it in the first place.
First weigh and decide if evidence shows the Bible is authored beyond the men that penned it!
Does the Bible prove to be an authority over creation, man, good, and evil?
Weighing evidence objectively, not by what you think, or heard but by weighing evidence for yourself, making a stack of evidence that individually seem far beyond coincidences, and then weighing them together as more than an individual piece of evidence, but together as an irrefutable body of evidence.
Can we prove it was written by an author higher than the physical reality of mankind?
Does it have markings that show it should have further examination?
After you establish the Bible as authored from someone beyond the human writers, then find out who wrote it and why, and what is being conveyed, and what is our responsibility to the one who signed it.
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You would make a horrible judge and an even worse juror.
You dont seem to grasp the enormity of the coincidents Ive mentioned. And I gave you layers of evidence in legthly posts a few days ago that you ignored.
Ill just stick with the two I discussed with you pi an e.
If they were buried within a chapter, and they appeared in two different portions of the chapters for both pi in Genesis, and e in John. So if these were NOT in Genesis 1: 1 and John 1: 1 I would say coincidence of them being found was just math fun, a nd a coincidence stumbled onto by math enthusiasts that are religious.
. But these two mathmatical constants are found literally in the 1st chapter AND in verse 1 of each of these books.
. Both of these books are written 1000s of years between them
. Both are in 2 separate languages
. Both announce creation
. John is the ONLY Gospel that starts out describing how the worlds were made, and John connects creation to Jesus - calling Jesus the Word became flesh And through Jesus creation occurred.
. So literally we have these in verses 1: 1 of these two books, in two eras of God's foretold design, consistent with purpose and process that God wrote out through men in absolute detail.
. And the placement of each isn't just "wow there is advanced math hidden here." But the concept of each found are descriptive of God's work within the two periods which are divided by the birth of the creator, Jesus, as John described in John 1.
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One point of reasoning for "pi In Genesis 1: 1" is measurement of a circle with a beginning point going full circle to an end point. And also every measure within the circle.
The significance?
God appointed our days, times, seasons, years, He numbered our days till completion, and appointed all the hosts, and players, and all the events of history and future from natural disasters to evil regimes, governing His purpose through the evil that exists. And using evil meant for evil to contribute even if they unwillingly participate, God steers them to bring forth His will for His people Israel and the Bride ( Jesus' Church)
So for pi to be placed here fits what the Bible says God is doing, He designed our days then rested, as His design unfolds exactly as He planned till it comes full circle to this worlds end.
Creation itself was prophetic prewritten history, on Day 4, He did not only hang sun moon and stars designing day and night, and seasons like summer winter ... etc.
In creation He designed every detail for mankind for 6000 years.
He spoke it, and it was created. Then He dictated it to be written for communication with fallen man. So fallen man would know Him, His ways, and know His works unfolding just as He pre-designed every work!
So pi fits a measurement of action. Full circle from beginning to end!
Then John 1: 1, e is a fun fact to find. But again the significance? e is used for doubling exponentially.
Two things grow exponentially in the era of Gods work John is writing about. Evil grew exponentially, and also His people grew exponentially out "to ALL nations," just as Jesus foretold it would.
So then salvation not just to one nation Israel, but the rate of doubling would apply to Gentiles. Just as God said in the beginning and Jesus also said, ...Be fruitful and multiply. So He has the formula e in the era He causes exponential growth of faith, and the persecuted early church became fruitfull trees bearing good fruit and multiplying good fruit trees after His kind,!
By the Jews initial rejection and crucifying of Jesus, and through the persecution of true early Christians, caused Christianity to grow exponentially without using violence and despite the violence against it.
If that doesnt atleast make you step back and say what else is in there, maybe there is an Author beyond the writers, then I dont know what reasoning and logic is used to weigh it. Id say no reasoning and logic!
Again these are just two peices and they in themselves are signatures that authenticate a signature above the men who penned it.
My point isnt religion, and who God is. In this showing evidence, first authenticate if the book has signs it was written outside of man's existence, someone higher, an alien or God. But 1st does it have markings that show it should have further examination.
After the Bible is established as from someone beyond the writer, then find out who, and what is being conveyed, and what is our responsibility to the one who signed it.
I'm a bit bored of telling you how it is coincidence, uncovered by desperate religious people.
If those 2 were the only books of the Bible, I could dismiss it even then. But they aren't, and that only increases the probability of it being coincidental. Unless the formula you used can be found somewhere, your religion might as well be a hoax.
How can you honestly believe it to be even a considerable piece of evidence? And you're actually quoting it for all you're worth.
Prove that there is sufficient reason to believe that it is there intentionally, or stop annoying me with this thing. Your desperation to believe isn't a valid argument.
Im a bit taken back at the inability for minds in this present darkness to reason with logical thought!
Never has the people everywhere in the world from civilized society to third world countries been so unnaturally dense!
!! UN-NATURALLY DENSE !!
The below scriptures show the condition mankind "evolves" to. And the "image" mankind "evolves" to. Never in history have each of these characteristics nbeen more prevalent, all at once, and in full force!
I especially think the last sentence identifies today!
People in every place from their phones defend and give hearty approval with every opinion they blast in defense of every evil, from murders of babies and police officers to all of it!
And every deception blog and post boasts like an expert and they never weighed it for themselves, yet they sink others so they cant find the truth either.
And currupting even the child against the truth in our schools, they cause babes to stumble in darkness as they embrace and open wide drinking the dragons flood, as they channel its deceptions like WORMWOOD! Poisening the streams of water and making all people drink from it!
Romans 1
16 For I am not ashamed of the glad tidings; for it is God's power to salvation, to every one that believes, both to Jew first and to Greek:
17 for righteousness of God is revealed therein, on the principle of faith, to faith: according as it is written, But the just shall live by faith.
18 For there is revealed wrath of God from heaven upon all impiety, and unrighteousness of men holding the truth in unrighteousness.
19 Because what is known of God is manifest among them, for God has manifested [it] to them,
20 âfor from [the] world's creation the invisible things of him are perceived, being apprehended by the mind through the things that are made, both his eternal power and divinity,âso as to render them inexcusable.
21 Because, knowing God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but fell into folly in their thoughts, and their heart without understanding was darkened:
22 professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into [the] likeness of an image of corruptible man and of birds and quadrupeds and reptiles.
24 Wherefore God gave them up [also] in the lusts of their hearts to uncleanness, to dishonour their bodies between themselves:
25 who changed the truth of God into falsehood, and honoured and served the creature more than him who had created [it], who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile lusts; for both their females changed the natural use into that contrary to nature;
27 and in like manner the males also, leaving the natural use of the female, were inflamed in their lust towards one another; males with males working shame, and receiving in themselves the recompense of their error which was fit.
28 And according as they did not think good to have God in [their] knowledge, God gave them up to a reprobate mind to practise unseemly things;
29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, malice; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil dispositions; whisperers,
30 back-biters, hateful to God, insolent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 void of understanding, faithless, without natural affection, unmerciful;
32 who knowing the righteous judgment of God, that they who do such things are worthy of death, not only practise them, but have fellow delight in those who do [them].
These passages also support my claim that your religion is just an administrative tool that wasn't expected to be itself controlled. Like a spreading virus, it is better the more people it infects.
As to your probability arguments, this is what all of them are like.
I spun a roulette wheel 1000 times and a sequence of 1000 numbers happened. Since the probability of this specific sequence is zero, therefore God.
You really expect me to point out absurdities that you're ignoring? Even though I did, I doubt you have the faintest idea of what you're talking.
First of all what I am specifically addressing is not religion.
It is the question, does the Bible show signs it was written by someone outside of our natural physical existence?
So the discussion is simply is the document itself riddled with too many "coincidences" to ignore. 1st determine that then figure out who and why it was written it to us.
And you are unrealistic concerning coincidence At some point a reasoning mind realizes when something is well beyond coincidence.
That's simple. Either Bible is entirely true or it isn't. As to your claims, I'll be willing to ignore it on evolution if it talks about adaptation.
Are there any predictions that it directly claims, or all those are result of desperate interpretations?
Also, the chances of finding special numbers upto a few decimals (2 irrational numbers correct to 4 decimals and a terrible order) would be just great enough if those were the only 2 verses. So using that argument is even more terrible than the example I gave.
The Bible is entirely true. Do you want to test it?
Where is it not true? Or are you assuming it is not 100% true?
I am telling you it is 100% true.
Test it. Feel free to ask me, I believe even if I do not know, God will provide the answer. So please bring to my attention the parts you think are untrue. And we can discuss why they actually are 100% true.
I showed both pi and e to the 4th decimal point is IN those 2 verses Gen 1: 1 and John 1: 1.
Fundamental Constants
The Mysteries of Pi and e
by Chuck Missler
A Rabbinical Tradition
The ancient Hebrew sages believed, of course, that God created the heavens and the earth. However, some of them believed that the Word of God was the very template with which He did it. This strikes some of us as simply a colorful exaggeration that goes beyond any direct evidence. There are hints here and there. There are two well-known references to the creation in the Scripture: Genesis 1:1 and John 1:1.
Both Hebrew and Greek use letters as both letters and numbers. So if we read it by its numeric value in these two verses we can find pi and e to the 4th decimal. And both are more precise than you would learn in basic math! They are precise to advanced usage.
To see Hebrew or Greek letter chart go to link and click on the linked word "chart"
This time if you take the numerical value of each of the Greek letters (see chart), and the numerical value of the words, and apply them to the same formula:
Number of Letters x Product of the Letters
. . . . . . . . á
Number of Words x Product of the Words
You now get 2.7183 x 1040, the value of e.
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Note:
The Masoretic Text - is the authoritative Hebrew and Aramaic text of the Tanakh for Rabbinic Judaism. However, contemporary scholars seeking to understand the history of the Hebrew Bible's text use a range of other sources.
Is there anything you believe I'm ignoring? Because I don't think so - and I find it to be a terrible argument. (Because you could not give anything to support your claim that it's intentional.)
If you have 1000 coincidences in one Book, and each coincidence is compelling in itself, then just maybe ... the Bible may have been Authored by Someone outside of our natural reality.
Thats ok then maybe you wont come to reason with God.
He says come let us reason together, but if your mind cant reason with comparisons of mathmatic probability then thats that
How is it any more significant than other years where things actually happened? Does it predict them all?
Is there any pattern followed universally? Finding 2 random numbers desperately doesn't count as a universal pattern, unless it is followed throughout all the books. It wasn't consistent enough in just 2.
Do you remember that guy who predicted the end of the world and then when it didn't happen he moved the date and eventually, when that didn't happen either, he gave up ;)
Not really. The scripture discusses the 12 stars around her head etc the layout gave this picture written in detail in Rev. And it was in the sky when God told Eve about labor bringing forth her seed. Which is a prohesy of Jesus.
And Jupiter is hanging in the abdomen area for 10 mos, and thats unique fot Jupiter.
It will appear as though it is a baby moving in utero, as it orbits there for 10 months. Its a sign, the Bible interprets itself. The constellation does not interpret itself.
The events connected to the appointed time of what is written, is reflected in a sign. For the interpretation you have to refer to the Bible.
And Yeah Trump by the way.
Trump will be 70 years 7 months and 7 days on the 1st full day of office. In the year of 5777 in the Hebrew calendar.
Now this could be a coincidence. So could the allignment of the constellation. But how many coincidences do you ignore without asking if there is at least something to it all that should be at least considered as really authored by someone beyond the human hands that wrote it.
None of these things in itself are smoking guns. But they all together as evidence would make God and the Bible prime suspects to investigate if we put truth, and put the Bible on trial for evidence of a supernatural intruder, the Bible would soon be found guilty by an open and shut case because of the weight of the evidence gathered proving the basis of the trial
Great! So if Trump gets shot dead and Obama becomes the last sitting president and Armageddon starts and America sits that one out, then we'll know that you were right. In the event that you are right, please put in a good word for me and save me a seat in heaven because I have no intention of standing for all eternity and I don't think I have accumulated enough points to get in ;)
Also the commet name Jupiter 67 flies through hitting the "heal" area of the virgin. Rev 12 discusses the dragon pouring out a flood after her "infant" and the infant was taken up, so the dragon went to make war with the rest of her seed. Which would be Israel.
What we see in scripture is "rapture" for the church and the final battles will involve Israel. And all those countries are identified by name. And even in order of their military action.
All are perched with motive and intent to fullfill these prophesies because of its current events in those areas identified. They are nations teatering on war that keep everyone concerned. So we can actually just about read the Bible as a newspaper at this point and see current events unfolding toward all of these final events.
I dont know what it will look like, rapture is a hiding away of the church or the "True Christians who are Virgins ready for the Bridegroom. - parable of 10 virgins. All fell asleep. All woke up. 5 had oil left, and 5 ran out. Oil would be annointing or filled w His Spirit. Which is a seal for the elect, "sends out angels from 4 corners of the earth to first seal elect" Its like the day Noah entered the Ark, and God sealed the door shut.
So the church will be sealed and hidden away, whether that is while we are standing in the midst with Ark like protection or protecte by being removed, no harm shall fall on the elect during the wrath portion of tribulation. So the appearance in the sky is interpreted by what God reveals in His Word. But likely something significant will occur regarding this scripture Sep 2017. And as interpreted by the word itself. This will be the beginning of "birth pangs" which is tribulation and will grow into great tribulation. At the end of this, He will wash away all the wicked from the face of the earth like in the days of Noah. But not by water from a flood. But from natural disasters, plagues, poisened waters, war, and hailstones of fire. Likely debre from space.
7 years from start to finish of the "great tribulation" with the false prophet of false peace takes a position in Jerusalem.
Then Israel will realize the snare of the false prophet, and more battles ensue.
In the end Jesus is revealed and they believe on Him.
Also 5777 is the year on the calandar for Messiah to come.
Only its actually His second coming.
And also I wonder if this constellation has something to do with the thought. But its actually for hidding away the church, and the start of their end times troubles. Which at some point will have a false peace attached.
Abomination of desolation? The Pope finds himself a player again in end times scriptures, as one word religion teaches compromise and anti-Christianity. And the Pope and worlds religions including so callef Christian churches, have joined into this. Meetin in the Holy City, and is abominatio that will cause desolation. God says come out of the world! Not join it and make peace with it. We dont chop off heads, we stand unwaivering in truth so we can show others the Way.these rtligios false peace are peace with each other, but not peace with God. On the contrary it blocks the Way by hiding it, making the highway appear as truth. Blind leading blind ...!
Gods people are exclusive, not because they are special and exclusive in themselves, but because the Way is exclusive. And they choose the Way.
The way is consecrated! So His people must be consecrated. And His people go One Way.
Thats why Jesus said I didn't come to bring peace but a sword.
There is no peace or salvation on the highway.
The sword divides! Because there is only one way. Anyone not going the one way, "will be cut down and thrown in the fire"
Do you see what I mean? You take the following imagery:
Jupiter 67 flies through hitting the "heal" area of the virgin. Rev 12 discusses the dragon pouring out a flood after her "infant" and the infant was taken up, so the dragon went to make war with the rest of her seed.
and claim they are talking abut Israel.
That's like I make some sexual innuendo and you claim that I'm talking about sex. Wait... ;)
We know its talking about Israel. Because scriptures actually confirm it.
That's how God communicates to us. Sheep hear His voice ...
Why? Because Sheep listen to the Word.
Here is one of those scriptures
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Jeremiah 30 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
30 The word which came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying,
2 âThus says the Lord, the God of Israel, âWrite all the words which I have spoken to you in a book.
3 For behold, days are coming,â declares the Lord, âwhen I will restore the fortunes of My people Israel and Judah.â The Lord says, âI will also bring them back to the land that I gave to their forefathers and they shall possess it.ââ
4 Now these are the words which the Lord spoke concerning Israel and concerning Judah:
5 âFor thus says the Lord,
âI have heard a sound of terror,
Of dread, and there is no peace.
6 âAsk now, and see
If a male can give birth.
Why do I see every man
With his hands on his loins, as a woman in childbirth?
And why have all faces turned pale?
7 âAlas! for that day is great,
There is none like it;
And it is the time of Jacobâs distress,
But he will be saved from it.
8 âIt shall come about on that day,â declares the Lord of hosts, âthat I will break his yoke from off their neck and will tear off their bonds; and strangers will no longer make them their slaves.
9 But they shall serve the Lord their God and David their king, whom I will raise up for them.
10 âFear not, O Jacob My servant,â declares the Lord,
âAnd do not be dismayed, O Israel;
For behold, I will save you from afar
And your offspring from the land of their captivity.
And Jacob will return and will be quiet and at ease,
And no one will make him afraid.
11 âFor I am with you,â declares the Lord, âto save you;
For I will destroy completely all the nations where I have scattered you,
Only I will not destroy you completely.
But I will chasten you justly
And will by no means leave you unpunished.â
12 âFor thus says the Lord,
âYour wound is incurable
And your injury is serious.
13 âThere is no one to plead your cause;
No healing for your sore,
No recovery for you.
14 âAll your lovers have forgotten you,
They do not seek you;
For I have wounded you with the wound of an enemy,
With the punishment of a cruel one,
Because your iniquity is great
And your sins are numerous.
15 âWhy do you cry out over your injury?
Your pain is incurable.
Because your iniquity is great
And your sins are numerous,
I have done these things to you.
16 âTherefore all who devour you will be devoured;
And all your adversaries, every one of them, will go into captivity;
And those who plunder you will be for plunder,
And all who prey upon you I will give for prey.
17 âFor I will restore you to health
And I will heal you of your wounds,â declares the Lord,
âBecause they have called you an outcast, saying:
âIt is Zion; no one cares for her.ââ
18 âThus says the Lord,
âBehold, I will restore the fortunes of the tents of Jacob
And have compassion on his dwelling places;
And the city will be rebuilt on its ruin,
And the palace will stand on its rightful place.
19 âFrom them will proceed thanksgiving
And the voice of those who celebrate;
And I will multiply them and they will not be diminished;
I will also honor them and they will not be insignificant.
20 âTheir children also will be as formerly,
And their congregation shall be established before Me;
And I will punish all their oppressors.
21 âTheir leader shall be one of them,
And their ruler shall come forth from their midst;
And I will bring him near and he shall approach Me;
For who would dare to risk his life to approach Me?â declares the Lord.
22 âYou shall be My people,
And I will be your God.ââ
23 Behold, the tempest of the Lord!
Wrath has gone forth,
A sweeping tempest;
It will burst on the head of the wicked.
24 The fierce anger of the Lord will not turn back
Until He has performed and until He has accomplished
All that may have some meaning to you but it means nothing to me. You'll need to translate. And if it is a prophesy, I will wait and see if it comes true.
Other than that, the Jewish temple hasn't been rebuilt yet, so...
This would be the final war. The players are defined by theur location. It is on purpose. Sheep "hear" everyone else thinks its a book of foolish riddles and myths. In these last days He is displaying it more fully then ever. For our sakes obviously. We are the time period that needs things to be more clear then ever. Because this is the final acts!
The final restoration is in the next chapter after the the following, restoation in Ez 39!
Ezekiel 38 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
38 And the word of the Lord came to me saying,
2 âSon of man, set your face toward Gog of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him
3 and say, âThus says the Lord God, âBehold, I am against you, O Gog, prince of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal.
4 I will turn you about and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them splendidly attired, a great company with buckler and shield, all of them wielding swords;
5 Persia, Ethiopia and Put with them, all of them with shield and helmet;
6 Gomer with all its troops; Beth-togarmah from the remote parts of the north with all its troopsâmany peoples with you.
7 âBe prepared, and prepare yourself, you and all your companies that are assembled about you, and be a guard for them.
8 After many days you will be summoned; in the latter years you will come into the land that is restored from the sword, whose inhabitants have been gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel which had been a continual waste; but its people were brought out from the nations, and they are living securely, all of them.
9 You will go up, you will come like a storm; you will be like a cloud covering the land, you and all your troops, and many peoples with you.â
10 âThus says the Lord God, âIt will come about on that day, that thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil plan,
11 and you will say, âI will go up against the land of unwalled villages. I will go against those who are at rest, that live securely, all of them living without walls and having no bars or gates,
12 to capture spoil and to seize plunder, to turn your hand against the waste places which are now inhabited, and against the people who are gathered from the nations, who have acquired cattle and goods, who live at the center of the world.â
13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish with all its villages will say to you, âHave you come to capture spoil?
Have you assembled your company to seize plunder, to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to capture great spoil?âââ
14 âTherefore prophesy, son of man, and say to Gog, âThus says the Lord God, âOn that day when My people Israel are living securely, will you not know it?
15 You will come from your place out of the remote parts of the north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great assembly and a mighty army;
16 and you will come up against My people Israel like a cloud to cover the land. It shall come about in the last days that I will bring you against My land, so that the nations may know Me when I am sanctified through you before their eyes, O Gog.â
17 âThus says the Lord God, âAre you the one of whom I spoke in former days through My servants the prophets of Israel, who prophesied in those days for many years that I would bring you against them?
18 It will come about on that day, when Gog comes against the land of Israel,â declares the Lord God, âthat My fury will mount up in My anger.
19 In My zeal and in My blazing wrath I declare that on that day there will surely be a great earthquake in the land of Israel.
20 The fish of the sea, the birds of the heavens, the beasts of the field, all the creeping things that creep on the earth, and all the men who are on the face of the earth will shake at My presence; the mountains also will be thrown down, the steep pathways will collapse and every wall will fall to the ground.
21 I will call for a sword against him on all My mountains,â declares the Lord God. âEvery manâs sword will be against his brother.
22 With pestilence and with blood I will enter into judgment with him; and I will rain on him and on his troops, and on the many peoples who are with him, a torrential rain, with hailstones, fire and brimstone.
23 I will magnify Myself, sanctify Myself, and make Myself known in the sight of many nations; and they will know that I am the Lord.ââ
All that may have some meaning to you but it means nothing to me. You'll need to translate. And if it is a prophesy, I will wait and see if it comes true.
Other than that, the Jewish temple hasn't been rebuilt yet, so...
That will likely occur when they feel like they are at peace.
The Jews have been gathering materials specific to specifications.
And some faithful in Ethiopia may have the Ark of the Covenant hidden. We may see that come forth at some point.
We follow seeing in part. God leads with a days portion of manna. But on day 6 we gather double portions.
Everything written is designed. Just like the universe is designed!
We are gathering double portions this time period.
Never before in my 30 years as a Christian have I seen anything like it!
God has always given me insightful revelation from His Word.
But never like this. Its like revelation is traveling at the speed of light right now. I mean it seems to open things I didnt ever figure out before. And now, evertime I ask about something I didnt understand before, He seems to show me within a day.
24 âA disciple is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master.
25 It is enough for the disciple that he become like his teacher, and the slave like his master. If they have called the head of the house Beelzebul, how much more will they malign the members of his household!
26 âTherefore do not fear them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known.
27 What I tell you in the darkness, speak in the light; and what you hear whispered in your ear, proclaim upon the housetops.
28 Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
29 Are not two sparrows sold for a cent? And yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from your Father.
30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
31 So do not fear; you are more valuable than many sparrows.
32 âTherefore everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father who is in heaven.
33 But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven.
34 âDo not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
35 For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law;
36 and a manâs enemies will be the members of his household.
37 âHe who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
38 And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.
39 He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it.
40 âHe who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.
41 He who receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophetâs reward; and he who receives a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous manâs reward.
42 And whoever in the name of a disciple gives to one of these little ones even a cup of cold water to drink, truly I say to you, he shall not lose his reward.â
Oh, that reminds me... what do you call a man with no arms and no legs right outside your door?
Mat.
Get it? ;)
BTW, all that may have some meaning to you but it means nothing to me. You'll need to translate. And if it is a prophesy, I will wait and see if it comes true.
Other than that, the Jewish temple hasn't been rebuilt yet, so...
I spent too much time on you to give up on you! đ
I claim you for the Kingdom!
My prayer for you is please Lord lift the spirit of the age from this one. And give him eyes of understanding so He may know you. And dwell in your Light forever! Show him, please have mercy on this one. Let the Spirit reveal you, and lead him into all truth!
Thank you Lord Jesus for the work you have done, and thank you Lord Jesus for completing your work, even in this man!
Do you realize I have proven the Bible from every angel.
With evidence that each in themselves would be improvable.
So your an engineer right?
If you take 100 improbable "coincidences" and each one is improbable at 10 to the 50th power, what is the mathmatical improbability of ALL related 100 connected coincidences combined?
I have shown hidden Bible Code by at least 2 different methods for pi, e, TORH TORH YHWH HROT HROT - like Jesus on the timeline. And not at all hidden deep in the text. But sitting right on the top, in the very beginning of the chapters they were found in.
I have shown a constelation that is about to appear, and was 6000 years from its last occurance. And it just so happens to match what was spoken to Eve and also the Woman hidden away from the dragon in Revelations. Which is written in a perfect description, and we were specifically told to look for this sign appearing in Heaven! And I have said also been saying for months. Genesis to Revelations, that we are in "day 6" the final hour in the 6000 years, 1 day is as a 1000 years ...
I have shown the Gospels authentically written by eyewitnesses to the point you can see the positioning of where they were standing according to the consistency of each Gospel accounts during the trial and crucifixtion.
I have showed prophesies of the Messiah throughout the OldT. And showed many prophesis that told of crucifixion before crucifixion was even used.
I have showed prophesy fullfillments that were told and fullfilled in specific sequence. Almos as like a volleyball team strategically setting up their shots.
I have showed logical reasoning to take the mysteriousness and misunderstandings out, and bring clarity of purpose to show the continuity and connection, that it is without contradictions.
I have taken science principles and showed how they have roots in the natural for understanding the spiritual.
Please at least watch the constellation video. And tell me what you think after you watch it.
I have always turned a deaf ear to end time dooms day prophets. And they are on you tube now also.
But I focus on sound confirmed and in order prophesies and teachings. God is a God of sound reasoning.
You haven't proved anything. You took some words and claim they mean that. Let's see if we suffer damage from some meteor. Or let' s wait and see if Obama is the last president. đ
Not attaching doctrinal meaning. But man, its interesting!
Donald Trump was born on June 14, 1946.
If you move ahead 70 years from that date, that brings you to June 14, 2016.
Moving forward another seven months brings you to Jan. 14, 2017.
And moving forward another seven days brings you to Jan. 21, 2017.
And if Donald Trump wins the election, Jan. 21 will be his first full day in office. Also note worthy a day in the Hebrew Calander goes evening to morning. Trump would be inaugurated on Jan. 20, but he would only be president for part of that day.
So that means that Donald Trump would be 70 years, seven months and seven days old on his first full day as president of the United States.
And this would happen during year 5777 on the Hebrew calendar.
the next alignment of the stars that appear in Judea, align with prophecy and occur on one of the Jewish high days, in Rosh 2017, then count back 3 1/2 years and what do you find - triumphal entry Sunday April 13th, 2014.
Easter is Sunday April 20th, 2014.
From Sunday October 21st, 2012 until Sunday April 13th, 2014 = 77 weeks.
We also know Israel was born by U.N. vote on November 29th, 1947. Fast forward to September 23rd, 2017 and you have 70 years. On a 360 days Hebrew calendar it is closer to 71.
I don't resort to counting random days unless it is explicit, or a universal pattern. Also, I wonder how that can be part of common sense.
Random patterns that somehow fulfilled don't count as predictions to me. Take any book long enough with an audience dedicated enough, and you shall find more 'predictions'.
Anything in your book that you saw directly, by yourself? Or is it all just a cycle of desperation?
Every part of your scripture supports my claim - including all its desperate interpretations (at least all that you've quoted to me so far) - that it's just an obsolete administrative tool christians are still clinging to (probably because they aren't smart enough).
I doubt you've proven anything.
But, say, your God creates an analytic proof of himself (or something verifiable and accessible), then I'll convert. Because then, not believing would be the idiotic thing, contrary to this situation. Some hate God for inflicting suffering and use it to dismiss the possibility of him existing, so those are the ones you'll need to convince. Also, I assure you, every philosopher and scientist worth his salt would join, just like it used to be in the old days (with some exceptions, of course, in that it now won't be dogma.)
But such a thing is not possible under any human endeavour. If such a proof can exist, it would itself prove the existence of something omnipotent over our universe.
There is confirmation on top of confirmation throughout every book. I gave you some. Its up to you to seek truth if it matters to you!
If not drink wormwood and reap your reward for ignoring the truth and drinking from the flood of deceptions to your hearts content and the deep sea of lies till it drowns you!
Its your soul, not mine!
"Seek the Lord WHILE He may be found ... "
"While" means there will be a time you wish you could seek Him but when too late, you wont find Him. He stands at the door knocking, open and let Him in and He will come in and break Bread with you and dine with you.
Or dont open it and be like the houses in Egypt who lost life of first born, because the Blood of the lamb was not put on the door posts. ( Egypt is a type of world, secular knowledge, chasing after other gods, and living in flesh and sin. The first born is a type of Adam.
In Adam all are born into the nature of the fallen first born of the world, Jesus was the first born, which was God in man both seed of mankind through the woman as told in Genesis the fall when God spoke to Eve. And fully God, the seed of God in a virgin.
Do you see how it all connects like "string theory" beginning at the throne of God and holding all things together as His Word resonates throughout the universe like thunder and trumpets and the dound of many waters etc etc etc!
I assure you, string theory wasn't accepted without overwhelming evidence of it corresponding to the calculations. And it still isn't taken as the truth, only a probable explanation.
Try not to use what you have absolutely no idea about. It isn't religion.
And believing in religion is just stupid as long as it is given that way.
Also, even Euclid had to prove each one of his theorems. He couldn't say, "I've been right so far, so now you have to take a leap of faith on whatever I say.", even though it would have been a perfect argument under your criteria. Under mine or any one worth the material he is built of, it isn't. It would be a terrible argument - so much that rather than his books, their criticism would survive.
Yet, in your religion, every terrible argument seems to be the 'next big thing'.
As biblical miracles aren't happening any more (assuming that they aren't false, for a while), is your God now dead?
I'm bored - you can't understand properly what you're talking about. I just hope that's not what Bible is like, because then I'd never be able to complete it.
My point in evidence confirming the Bible is not religion, or who is God, or His "rules," or defining sin.
Before it has authority, lets see if it does have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt of a signature of Divine Authorship.
I want to bring attention to why should you examine it in the first place.
First weigh and decide if evidence shows the Bible is authored beyond the men that penned it!
Does the Bible prove to be an authority over creation, man, good, and evil?
Weighing evidence objectively, not by what you think, or heard but by weighing evidence for yourself, making a stack of evidence that individually seem far beyond coincidences, and then weighing them together as more than an individual piece of evidence, but together as an irrefutable body of evidence.
Can we prove it was written by an author higher than the physical reality of mankind?
Does it have markings that show it should have further examination?
After you establish the Bible as authored from someone beyond the human writers, then find out who wrote it and why, and what is being conveyed, and what is our responsibility to the one who signed it.
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You would make a horrible judge and an even worse juror.
You dont seem to grasp the enormity of the coincidents Ive mentioned. And I gave you layers of evidence in legthly posts a few days ago that you ignored.
Ill just stick with the two I discussed with you pi an e.
If they were buried within a chapter, and they appeared in two different portions of the chapters for both pi in Genesis, and e in John. So if these were NOT in Genesis 1: 1 and John 1: 1 I would say coincidence of them being found was just math fun, a nd a coincidence stumbled onto by math enthusiasts that are religious.
. But these two mathmatical constants are found literally in the 1st chapter AND in verse 1 of each of these books.
. Both of these books are written 1000s of years between them
. Both are in 2 separate languages
. Both announce creation
. John is the ONLY Gospel that starts out describing how the worlds were made, and John connects creation to Jesus - calling Jesus the Word became flesh And through Jesus creation occurred.
. So literally we have these in verses 1: 1 of these two books, in two eras of God's foretold design, consistent with purpose and process that God wrote out through men in absolute detail.
. And the placement of each isn't just "wow there is advanced math hidden here." But the concept of each found are descriptive of God's work within the two periods which are divided by the birth of the creator, Jesus, as John described in John 1.
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One point of reasoning for "pi In Genesis 1: 1" is measurement of a circle with a beginning point going full circle to an end point. And also every measure within the circle.
The significance?
God appointed our days, times, seasons, years, He numbered our days till completion, and appointed all the hosts, and players, and all the events of history and future from natural disasters to evil regimes, governing His purpose through the evil that exists. And using evil meant for evil to contribute even if they unwillingly participate, God steers them to bring forth His will for His people Israel and the Bride ( Jesus' Church)
So for pi to be placed here fits what the Bible says God is doing, He designed our days then rested, as His design unfolds exactly as He planned till it comes full circle to this worlds end.
Creation itself was prophetic prewritten history, on Day 4, He did not only hang sun moon and stars designing day and night, and seasons like summer winter ... etc.
In creation He designed every detail for mankind for 6000 years.
He spoke it, and it was created. Then He dictated it to be written for communication with fallen man. So fallen man would know Him, His ways, and know His works unfolding just as He pre-designed every work!
So pi fits a measurement of action. Full circle from beginning to end!
Then John 1: 1, e is a fun fact to find. But again the significance? e is used for doubling exponentially.
Two things grow exponentially in the era of Gods work John is writing about. Evil grew exponentially, and also His people grew exponentially out "to ALL nations," just as Jesus foretold it would.
So then salvation not just to one nation Israel, but the rate of doubling would apply to Gentiles. Just as God said in the beginning and Jesus also said, ...Be fruitful and multiply. So He has the formula e in the era He causes exponential growth of faith, and the persecuted early church became fruitfull trees bearing good fruit and multiplying good fruit trees after His kind,!
By the Jews initial rejection and crucifying of Jesus, and through the persecution of true early Christians, caused Christianity to grow exponentially without using violence and despite the violence against it.
If that doesnt atleast make you step back and say what else is in there, maybe there is an Author beyond the writers, then I dont know what reasoning and logic is used to weigh it. Id say no reasoning and logic!
Again these are just two peices and they in themselves are signatures that authenticate a signature above the men who penned it.
My point isnt religion, and who God is. In this showing evidence, first authenticate if the book has signs it was written outside of man's existence, someone higher, an alien or God. But 1st does it have markings that show it should have further examination.
After the Bible is established as from someone beyond the writer, then find out who, and what is being conveyed, and what is our responsibility to the one who signed it.
Evidence that is presented in trials. The evidence is overwhelming. Someone outside of our physical reality wrote it. Before people decide if the Bible is valid or not, a fair trial of the evidence should precede your judgement pf it.
Especially since you put skepticism in writing as though you analized and concluded. Assumptions are a dime a dozen at best.
Many pieces that individually count as evidence, and collectively weigh as a evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.
So take pi and e found as 1 plus 1, heavily weighted against odds of mere coincidence
Then take TORH written directionally showing reading both right to left and left to right with YHWY in the mid book.
And these are found in the beginning starting at verse 1 and are at 49 Hebrew letter intervals with YHWH found at 7 letter intervals. 7 is an important highlighted Bible number in every book of the Bible. Jesus says to forgive 70 times 7 which equals 490 !
And we see this 7 and squ root of 49.
And also 490 divisible by 10, Noah was 10th generation from Adam through Seth. Through the flood it was like Baptism, the earth was cleansed.
The prophesy about Noah - He would bring REST (7th day) to our souls. So God used it as a picture and the math shows its related on a string of 7.
Oh, And the day recorded in Genesis when Noah came out of the Ark just so happened to be the date of Jesus' Resurrection! According to the Hebrew calendar of all their Divinely given feasts!
Then fullfillment of precise prophesies throughout history. (over 2000)
And also for the Messiah (over 300)
Prophesies for nations, times, societies, individials, generations, and and peoples ... all pre-written, as displaying all days of mankind as purposely pre-designed, with appointed times that occur as scheduled in the Bible.
Most of which are literally time stamped!
The authentication shown in pre-discovered knowledge. Not just "it sound like" but also has definining of modern knowledge, that took science almost 6000 years to catch up to!
Isaiah Job and Psalms discuss the earth as round.
And Job discusses precipitation and a unique gravitational pull within 2 constellations out of all the known constelations. These are the only two that have a gravitational pull clustering them together by gravity.
Also the book of Enoch discusses Pleiades. Enoch discusses 7 stars stuck in a hole in space. Jesus then calls the 7 churches in Rev. 7 churches in His Right Hand.
Also the 7 churches in Rev identified are represented by 7 original churches, which coincidently are on the 7 mountains of Rome. Which curiously the hills resemble the pattern of the 7 brightest stars out of 10 stars, three are dim total of (10!)
So when God appointed time He connected every star and planet as a directive. Not like the worldly zodiac, but appointed times. Like the star shining over Jesus' birth.
Job 38
31 âCan you tie up the cords of the Pleiades
or loosen the belt of Orion?
32 Can you lead out the constellations of the zodiac in their season
or guide the Great Bear and its cubs?
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Also the zodiac as we know it show each constelation as 12 tribes of Israel and connects each star in the constellation in order from the brightest to the least bright. Each bringing forth prophetic fulfillmemts we see in the Bible.
And these all combined are just samplings and the tip of the iceberg. The evidence shows it is written from an outside source, not by men with ink and paper, but personally by the finger of God!
I ask my old question again, do you claim that EVERYTHING written in the Bible is true? I'll be willing to ignore it on evolution (though technically, I shouldn't).
God spoke everything into existence, then dictated for it to be written. For our benefit.
He also watched over it with heavy guidelines to the people who were custodians bringing it forth, out of which came Jesus the Messiah.
When they transcribed copies, they had each page checked by sets of scribes that each checked sets of words and letters on each page, one page at a time, went through the checking of 5 to 7 scribes. So for it to be acceptable each letter and word had to be found and verified against the original.
So very little was altered. So it is as close to original as is reasonable with that purposeful diligence.
And there are many scriptures discussing how He watches over it. Today being the last days, not only is there a flood of lies and deceptions and "selective truth" which is not at all truth, there is also a flood of verification of the Bible like never before.
We can even from our cell phones compare our English Bible to original texts and also the way terms and words of it's useage in other passages within minutes!
God always made complete contrasts in His Word, starting in Genesis 1. Separating light from darkness, Cain from Abel, Cains genealogy from Adams through Seth, with Cain exiled.
Noah from the world, Abraham from others then Isaac from Ishmael. Then Jacob from Esau, Joseph from his brothers .....
Etc etc etc sheep from goats, fruit from fruit, image from image all through to Revelations.
There is a contrast between the masses and the redeemed.
We all were lost. Jesus came to an already judged world to pull the redeemed out and to collapse the rest after He is done.
And in this age we have no excuse stating that the Bible has errors, because no time in history could each one of us take it upon ourselves to seek what is written.
And our Bible versions are pretty reliable and we also have the Jewish text to compare to.
The message is so consistent that its there like manna from Heaven feeding us double portions on Day 6, which we are in.
Everyday representing 1000 years as told by Peter and Psalms.
And He is pouring out manna in double portions in this last "day"
The contrast grows like a canyon seperating the people of light from darkness. The flood is a double edged sword. As deceptions are poured out like a flood, the Word is getting clearer and clearer!
Just like in Daniel and many places. The Bible is repetive yet ever utterance multidimensional in knowledge understanding wisdom prophesy. If by chace you only stumbled onto a piece, youd find piece pieces and the whole.
God is beyond genius of your greatest imagination. He has His Word written everywhere. On leaves, in DNA, in hearts, on paper, in Heavens, in galaxies, and His Spirit in the World reveals it! If your heart hears Him.
If you are His, you will lift your head up from the flood of deceptions, and hear Him call you by name, and will reveal Himself to your soul. Understanding, God illuminates, and understanding is like the sound of many waters within.
The flood of deceptions are without, understanding is within.
Revelations mentions a flood out of the mouth of the dragon and the woman being carried away and the ground soaking up the flood.
Also, Jesus talks about this in Matt 24 and Luke 17.
Jesus says, the last days will be just like the days of Noah
Two in a field one taken one left.
Disciples ask where and Jesus responds with a ref to Revelations; where a table is set, where He call for the birds of the air to feast on His enemies. While His Bride rejoices at the wedding feast of the Lamb.
If you are able to reason with a logical course, you will see there is one Author! And you will seek to confirm the evidence, then find out who the Author is, and find what He requires of you.
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Daniel 12
4 âBut you, Daniâel, keep these words secret, and seal up the book until the time of the end. Many will rush here and there as knowledge increases.â
5 Then I, Daniâel, looked; and I saw in front of me two others, one on this bank of the river and the other on its other bank.
6 One of them asked the man dressed in linen who was above the water of the river, âHow long will these wonders last?â
7 The man dressed in linen who was above the water of the river raised his right and left hands toward heaven and swore by him who lives forever that it would be for a time, times and a half, and that it will be when the the power of the holy people is no longer being shattered that all these things will end.
8 I heard this, but I couldnât understand what it meant; so I asked, âLord, what will be the outcome of all this?â
9 But he said, âGo your way, Daniâel; for these words are to remain secret and sealed until the time of the end.
10 Many will purify, cleanse and refine themselves; but the wicked will keep on acting wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand. But those with discernment will understand.
11 From the time the regular burnt offering is taken away and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
12 How blessed will be anyone who waits and arrives at the 1,335 days.
13 But you, go your way until the end comes. Then you will rest and rise for your reward, at the end of days.â
I don't know if this explanation is indeed irrefutable enough so as to warrant placing a verbal or written "period" at the end of it. But I DO personally agree with it, and have for several years now, ever since I began my college studies into Evolutionary Biology.
It is also probably the most-favored scenario by current Evolutionists, chemists, and Biologists. We have long felt that those deep sea thermal vents on the ocean floor made for excellent fermenting and breeding environments for the initial formation of our microbial ancestors.
Ahh....The Primordial Ooze.
Darwin's Cozy, Warm Little Pond!
Home!
Thanks for sharing the link; I enjoyed it and agree with it. We have come close to replicating it in lab experiments, as we have created amino acids and proteins from inorganic matter. We will soon be able to replicate rNA formation. I am guessing within a decade. Easy.
Another favored hypothesis is that, due to the primal Earth's atmospheric conditions and weather, there was a lot of thunderstorms going on. And what, pray tell...do we often see with these storms?
Yeah, baby! Lightening!
We think that some electrical disharges into the Primordial Ooze could have acted as catalysts, of sorts, and thus been a contributing factor to the formation of those original organic microbes.
After this beginning stage, that is, from our amoeba stages onwards, we have documented the Evolutionary process step by step. With damn near irrefutable records. Including fossils; radiometric dating, and DNA evidence. We have built and built upon Darwin's original Theory, to the point to where no credible professional Biologist or academician doubts evolution.
I don't know if this explanation is indeed irrefutable enough so as to warrant placing a verbal or written "period" at the end of it.
Some people may question how the right chemical got together at the right amount and the right temperature with the right amount of sun light and water. But the answer is quite simple, God ;)
Forever student huh? Always learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth.
Matt 11
25 At that time Jesus said, âI praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants. 26 Yes, Father, for this way was well-pleasing in Your sight.
The ancient Hebrew sages believed, of course, that God created the heavens and the earth. However, some of them believed that the Word of God was the very template with which He did it. This strikes some of us as simply a colorful exaggeration that goes beyond any direct evidence. There are hints here and there. There are two well-known references to the creation in the Scripture: Genesis 1:1 and John 1:1. Letâs look âunderneathâ the text of each of these.
Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
In Hebrew:
Genesis 1:1 in Hebrew
If you examine the numerical values of each of the Hebrew letters, and the numerical value of the words (see chart), and apply them to this formula:
The number of letters x the product of the letters
The number of words x the product of the words
You get 3.1416 x 1017. The value of Ď to four decimal places! Hmm.
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
In Greek:
John 1:1 in Greek
This time if you take the numerical value of each of the Greek letters (see chart), and the numerical value of the words, and apply them to the same formula:
The number of letters x the product of the letters
The number of words x the product of the words
You now get 2.7183 x 1040, the value of e. Curious!
"This story is now regarded as one of the leading hypotheses for the origin of life. It found powerful support in July 2016, when Martin published a study reconstructing some of the features of the "last universal common ancestor" (LUCA). This is the organism that lived billions of years ago and from which all existing life is descended."
"Throughout the second half of the 20th Century, origin-of-life researchers have worked in tribes. Each group favoured their own narrative and, for the most part, rubbished competing hypotheses. This approach has certainly been successful, as evidenced by the previous chapters, but every promising idea for the origin of life has ultimately come up against a major problem. So a few researchers are now trying a more unified approach."
The scientists now propose a radical new idea about the origin of life, namely that all the key components of life were formed at once. How did this happen? God, of course ;)
I tried to read the article. It was a bit technical, so I didnt quite understand like any of it. Lol But I did try, i even when to links in the paragraph.
I think when i read someting tech its best to have the conclusion first, so I have a ref point, then content I can fit in to make sense of it. Then conclusion at the end so i can wrap my head around it.
So i look for conclusions 1st then read information. And I couldnt find the conclusion to anchor my thoughts.
I know its crazy. But it works for me.
So LUCA - ok i found this lay termish article.
It sounds like a travel brochure for theory whichever you prefer. I think thats a hoot! Its like here are two science things either could be true maybe even neither.
So then according to whichever truth you prefer, which destination can I book your reservation for? Am I reading this excerpt correctly? Lol
By NICHOLAS WADE
July 25, 2016
A surprisingly specific genetic portrait of the ancestor of all living things has been generated by scientists who say that the likeness sheds considerable light on the mystery of how life first emerged on Earth.
This venerable ancestor was a single-cell, bacterium-like organism. But it has a grand name, or at least an acronym. It is known as Luca, the Last Universal Common Ancestor, and is estimated to have lived some four billion years ago, when Earth was a mere 560 million years old.
The new finding sharpens the debate between those who believe life began in some extreme environment, such as in deep sea vents or the flanks of volcanoes, and others who favor more normal settings, such as the âwarm little pondâ proposed by Darwin.
Warm little pond sounds quaint, but it might be too damp and closed in, deep sea vents seem scarey, i think volcanoe is good. Maybe ill pick volcanoe. Lol
Funny you should mention that, like school hasnt dumbed kids down. And brainwashed them with stupidity and agendas meant to take over America by makin a generation of selfish collectivism idiots.
Which is interesting since the grave in the pit is a common grave of the foolish, God names them collectively! "A fool!"
I really am confused how educated people cant reason logically. In regards to creation from evolution its unreasonable to think that not only did molecules find each other but that they fell into just the right conditions needed.
The one and only condition needed for life! So they take impossible odds already and then take impossible odds to the 100000000000000000 th power!
Then combine it with the 50 other conditions that are in a delicate minute margin. And we dont even have a number for that immprobability.
I can see why God mocks the wise and intelligent with the most simple of things. Its idiot to the 10000000000000000 th power.
No wonder God's going to shake the wicked out of the earth.
And makes one common name for those thrown into the pit, a fool is all you can say after such foolishness!
But, I doubt these are insurmountable challenges for something so omnipotent. Or the peasants defending the old idea can say that their fantasies don't care about us enough to make something so sure.
There are some random verses they could quote - at least I expect there to be. But that'd be extending their arguments where I can attack. I'd rather argue with their leaders who'd be more compelled to answer the questions rather than making random, unrelated claims.
Gravitational constant: Determines strength of gravity. If lower than stars would have insufficient pressure to overcome Coulomb barrier to start thermonuclear fusion (i.e. stars would not shine). If higher, stars burn too fast, use up fuel before life has a chance to evolve.
Strong Force Coupling Constant: Holds particles together in nucleus of atom. If weaker than multi-proton particles would not hold together, hydrogen would be the only element in the Universe. If stronger, all elements lighter than iron would be rare. Also radioactive decay would be less, which heats core of Earth.
Electromagnetic Coupling Constant: Determines strength of electromagnetic force that couples electrons to nucleus. If less, than no electrons held in orbit. If stronger, electrons will not bond with other atoms. Either way, no molecules.
The anthropic principle invites testing. A skeptic not yet persuaded that the fine-tuning of the universe reflects more than a lucky coin toss can choose to examine the universe, the "coin," more closely.
If the anthropic principle and its implications for transcendent design are false, research will discover declining evidence for fine-tuning and existing evidence will be erased by new data. If, on the other hand, the anthropic principle and its implications are true, research will yield an increase in both the number of fine-tuned characteristics and the degree of fine-tuning.
Based on the accumulating evidence, to bet on the anthropic principle seems safer than taking another breath. The anthropic principle energizes humanity's climb on the pinnacles of Truth.
