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He can TREAD on us forever We need to STAND up
Debate Score:19
Arguments:16
Total Votes:21
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How long are we gonna cower in the face of Putin's nukes? We have nukes too.

Hello:

The Ukrainian war is NOT a war.  It's a flat out genocide, and we're on the sidelines..  There is a 50 mile long line of Russian weapons on the way that'll WIPE out the remaining Ukrainians.

Are we gonna just watch?

excon

He can TREAD on us forever

Side Score: 13
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We need to STAND up

Side Score: 6
2 points

Someone is being dominated in a game of chess. A few people decide to support them by giving them extra pieces, pawns, knights, castles. There are also a few spectators who are just watching. Then someone comes along and decides to burn down the entire building to help. Yes, they are preventing the game from being lost, but also murdering both players, all the people helping the losing side, all the spectators and themselves.

That is what it is to say "we have nukes".

As a species, we must choose the lesser evil today, lest we never get a choice again

1 in 2000 Ukrainian people dying is terrible, but incomparable to genocide.

Nuclear war is utterly catastrophic for all parties involved. There is no vaguely positive outcome. The best case scenario would be the complete annihilation of the US, Russia, and Ukraine. It would become impossible to live on half the planet, the other half facing extreme environments murdering billions of innocent souls.

But that doesn't mean there is nothing we can do. Helping others peacefully, even as an individual makes a difference. Simply not fueling anger and war will help the world become a better place, one step at a time.

Try not to be a spectator, donating pieces is okay, but certainly do not burn down the building.

Violence is often the easiest option, but it is never the best

The human species is wonderful. We have made miraculous achievements and created amazing things. The very fact that intelligent life exists is spectacular. So be happy, rejoice that despite all the adversities, struggles, and anger in our society, we have managed to survive, to endure, to prosper.

I hope we will at least hesitate before we decide to wipe clean our small patch of life in this astoudingly beautiful universe.

Side: He can TREAD on us forever
2 points

I wholeheartedly agree! Someone has to be the ADULT in the room with all these children!

People don't realize the cost of nuclear war. Few lived through the horror of the first nuclear strikes, I did. Not directly but I did SEE the result and it was enough to scare anyone with ANY common sense! I'm glad SOMEONE has the sense to hold it as a VERY LAST RESORT! That said, I hope we see how stupid Xrump's policies were! His obvious love for Putin would be a disaster for the WORLD!

Side: He can TREAD on us forever
1 point

Biden has no spine, morals, or standards, so we'll probably sit there and watch. This is the same person who left Afghanistan and said oops to leaving thousands of Americans behind with no chance to escape. Would not have happened under Trump.

Side: He can TREAD on us forever
excon(18261) Disputed
1 point

Would not have happened under Trump

Hello Jack:

I dunno.. Just last night, Hannity threw Trump a softball, by asking him if what the Russians are doing in Ukraine is EVIL.

Trump couldn't say that it was.. Watch here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQj6ViBZeuo

excon

Side: We need to STAND up
Developing(494) Disputed
1 point

Excon, this is a war. A war by the way occurred under the "Biden administration". War always has terrible consequences and this includes war crimes on both sides.

Side: He can TREAD on us forever
1 point

Your boy is President. We didn't cower, have huge inflation, and gas prices were like they were in the 90s for 4 years. You voted it out of office. You ordered a shit sandwich, so finish your plate and stop complaining.

Side: We need to STAND up