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 How many times have Democrats denied becoming socialists? HELLO? BERNIE SANDERS? (5)

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How many times have Democrats denied becoming socialists? HELLO? BERNIE SANDERS?

This is just one other reason why I ban certain deceptive people on this site. Every time I compare this new age Democrat party to socialists, they deny it.

Look at the facts when almost half of the Democrat voters supported Sanders. Those that voted for the likes of Obama and now Hillary, do so because these are pure Liberal politicians who have been blatantly pushing this nation in the socialistic direction for decades.

Obama admitted he wanted to transform America into something that resembles socialist Europe. These extremist politicians always want BIGGER GOVERNMENT and the Democrat voters want the same on the backs of tax payers. THIS IS SOCIALISM!

As we see with so many European nations fighting off bankrupcy.... socialism DOES NOT WORKS!

You can not punish hard work and success while rewarding laziness and irresponsibility. Doing so only creates more Government dependents and pushes more businesses off shore to more tax friendly places.
What's so amazing is that these progressives seemingly never get it! Do they have a death wish for America? Do they hate the benefits of capitalism and freedom to such an extent that they would bankrupt us to get their socialistic ideology forced down our throats?

These people are truly scary when the facts are in and they STILL want to continue down this same destructive pass. Growing welfare roles, growing broken families, more people dropping out of middle class to lower income class. The facts are terrible and the direction of this nation must be changed.
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This is just one other reason why I ban certain deceptive people on this site. Every time I compare this new age Democrat party to socialists, they deny it.

Because you have no fucking clue what socialism means. You just know that back in the fifties you could scare people with that one word.

Look at the facts when almost half of the Democrat voters supported Sanders. Those that voted for the likes of Obama and now Hillary, do so because these are pure Liberal politicians who have been blatantly pushing this nation in the socialistic direction for decades.

They didn't choose Bernie. He lost. Why not look at the facts for the Republicans and point out that you didn't choose Ted Cruz the conservative? Because this argument is stupid.

Obama admitted he wanted to transform America into something that resembles socialist Europe. These extremist politicians always want BIGGER GOVERNMENT and the Democrat voters want the same on the backs of tax payers. THIS IS SOCIALISM!

That actually isn't socialism. Socialism involves making private companies run by the public.

As we see with so many European nations fighting off bankrupcy.... socialism DOES NOT WORKS!

Everyone is fighting off bankruptcy except the countries with oil.

You can not punish hard work and success while rewarding laziness and irresponsibility. Doing so only creates more Government dependents and pushes more businesses off shore to more tax friendly places.

I am pretty sure it is the stupid tax laws that cause businesses to go off shore.

What's so amazing is that these progressives seemingly never get it! Do they have a death wish for America? Do they hate the benefits of capitalism and freedom to such an extent that they would bankrupt us to get their socialistic ideology forced down our throats?

They aren't trying to kill capitalism.

These people are truly scary when the facts are in and they STILL want to continue down this same destructive pass. Growing welfare roles, growing broken families, more people dropping out of middle class to lower income class. The facts are terrible and the direction of this nation must be changed.

Then stop voting for a fucking reality TV star to be president. If the direction of the country is so bad, maybe you should pick a real candidate.

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This is just one other reason why I ban certain deceptive people on this site.

With the primary reasons being you are terrible at debating and are disturbingly childish. Oh, and ignorant. Can't believe I nearly forgot that one. That's your defining characteristic.

Every time I compare this new age Democrat party to socialists, they deny it.

You know how there are certain branches of Christianity that you disagree with? That you probably don't consider to be true Christians? Its like that with socialism too. Marxist socialism is an idealistic philosophy that has never been practiced on a large scale, and most likely never can be. The socialism associated with "Communism", which is what you are probably referring to, is not being proposed by anyone in America, at least nobody that counts. Democratic Socialism, which is what Sanders supports has less to do with failed states like the Soviet Union, and more to do with very successful nations such as the Nordic countries, Germany, Netherlands, etc. ALSO, not all Democrats support even Democratic Socialism. In fact, for now at least, the majority do not.

Look at the facts when almost half of the Democrat voters supported Sanders.

If he had won the nomination, you might have a point.

Those that voted for the likes of Obama and now Hillary, do so because these are pure Liberal politicians who have been blatantly pushing this nation in the socialistic direction for decades.

Obama isn't really a liberal and Hillary definitely isn't. And our country is easily one of the most capitalist countries in the world.

Obama admitted he wanted to transform America into something that resembles socialist Europe.

Considering the various nations of Europe exceed us in countless categories, and most of the Capitalist countries in the world are the various poor nations of Africa, doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. Or to anybody who cares about facts over ideology.

These extremist politicians always want BIGGER GOVERNMENT and the Democrat voters want the same on the backs of tax payers. THIS IS SOCIALISM!

First, supporters of Democratic Socialism are only talking about using socialism to cover a handful of industries. Mostly healthcare and education, both of which we are currently doing very poorly at. And yeah, there are entitlement programs to help lift people up out of poverty. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if our middle class is bigger than the poverty class, our economy will be a lot healthier. And those taxes? If done right, a huge segment of the economy will actually have more money in pocket with the higher taxes than they would is they had massive student debt and ever increasing insurance rates. Thus, a better economy. Which is EXACTLY what happens in most of the countries practicing a form of democratic socialism.

As we see with so many European nations fighting off bankrupcy....

Uh, no. There is only a few right now. Greece is a disaster, sure. And a few of the countries that used to be in USSR. There are plenty of reason for these countries failing. But there are plenty other European countries that have done reasonably well, considering the ENTIRE WORLD was in an economic crisis for about a decade.

You can not punish hard work and success while rewarding laziness and irresponsibility.

Who is proposing that?

Doing so only creates more Government dependents and pushes more businesses off shore to more tax friendly places.

Lack of education causes the first problem, capitalism is responsible for the other.

What's so amazing is that these progressives seemingly never get it!

Yeah, we don't get it because what you are talking about is much less likely to happen under our system. Ask Europe. Or, even better, check out the deep south. Home of the most conservative states since the 60s or 70s. Poverty. High unemployment. High crime. Low education. Crappy healthcare. We get it, Saintnow.

Do they have a death wish for America?

Who would hate the place where they live?

Do they hate the benefits of capitalism and freedom to such an extent that they would bankrupt us to get their socialistic ideology forced down our throats?

The benefits of capitalism are many and wondrous. But it can't solve every problem. That is why a mixed economic system is much better.

people are truly scary when the facts are in and they STILL want to continue down this same destructive pass.

I concur.

Growing welfare roles,

Required due to Capitalism

growing broken families,

not helped by capitalism

more people dropping out of middle class to lower income class.

Which is exactly what happens when capitalism is allowed to dominate.

The facts are terrible and the direction of this nation must be changed.

Which is PRECISELY what we are trying to do.

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TWO excellent responses above! Some of (actually almost ALL of) the statement of the post are CRAP!

Conservatives (I won't call them "Republicans" because they don't, in the LEAST resemble the "Party of Lincoln", anymore!) want , or have been told they NEED, a smaller, more controllable, government. They want states to go their own way without a moderating federal government speaking for the majority and keeping things at least similar! Putting to many things in the hands of individual governors would turn America into Europe BEFORE the EU! A bunch of individual little countries that work against each other.

I'm surprised the poster didn't revel about how superior a "Republic" is over a Social Democratic country. Like the "Union of Soviet Socialist "Republics", or the "Republic" of Cuba, The Chinese "Republic", etc. A republic WITHOUT democratic principles, (yes, somewhat socialistic), doesn't have a successful record to stand on. There are very FEW that consider Obama OR Hillary , "liberals", other than the FAR right wing, to whom anyone to the left of THEM are liberals.

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Democrats are through denying they are Socialist. They have become very open that they are Socialist.

Darkyear(345) Disputed
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Some have become Democratic Socialist, but not Marxist or "Communist". Please explain to me what is wrong with Democratic Socialism?