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He's done it before, but he doesn't do it often. It seems like the main reason most of the other Brits log on is just so that they can talk shit about America.
Well I did try turn down my contribution to nationalism for a while and I haven't created any such debates relating to the topic for a long while because I understood that being blindly patriotic is not everyone's cup of tea.
If you noticed the majority of the UK vs US debates have been set up by Americans, including yourself.
I find your idea of complaining a little strange... seems you're the one doing the complaining here. And I never said there was a surge, those are your words. The majority of Britons on the site have always been little haters... nothing new there.
It was clearly a platform to allow people to engage in such a hatred. Unless of course you're some scholar who is genuinely interested in finding out which nation "did more harm to the world".
It was clearly a platform to allow people to engage in such a hatred.
So? You engage in such hatred all the time... I don't see Americans hating on the UK the way I see you guys constantly hating on America. Besides, it's called stirring the pot... it's what we're supposed to do on. ;)
And upon entering such debates we have to see American nationalists post "arguments" with the music video "America, Fuck yeah" which add absolutely nothing to the debate but has been upvoted by fellow American nationalists, showing that the debate wil be nothing more than a contest of blind upvoting.
Then if you proceed to protest against such outrageous claims the debate creator himself decides to dispute you with "Lol I made the debate title in hopes that it would bring all of the Anti-American Brits over here. I like when the arguments get a little heated... so, fuck you!"
I can deal with all this stupid nationalism, but its disappointing when people start to make debates like this one to then attack users for disputing you. It's been a shame seeing some of the people I once respected taking part in such an thing in the way they do.
Well... thanks for supporting this argument: Whiney, negative, arrogant, prejudiced, discriminatory and maybe a bit jealous lol.
It's only fair since you, and a few others, make it your duty to talk shit about America. Does it not make sense for us to have pride in our country too? Is it only good when Britain is nationalistic? No, fuck that! I've never heard an American attack Britain the way you do America. The only time I've seen an American say anything negative about Britain was out of defense... except for me, but I don't really give a shit.
Do you think we enjoy hearing your insults? No. It gets irritating, especially since we're supposed to be allies.
Yeah, I made the debate title "If America isn't the greates nation, then what is?" to stir up some good arguments. I was hoping to draw in a lot of people. If you looked into it that deeply, then that's your fault... and why would you have a problem with "America, Fuck yeah"? That's just another case of you acting like Americans shouldn't have pride in their country.
Also, did the debate title suggest anything negative? The only reason you don't like it is because the responses are negative.
I'm sorry, I thought my original argument was protesting against Guitarguy's approach to debating.
I'm not the one creating debates which complain about the debating etiquette of an entire nation just because I like to be nationalist every now and then.
You said that if you look really really hard it is obvious he is a troll. That's all you said. You did not provide any reasoning for your opinion. It just sounded like you complaining about nationalism, that's all.
I didn't state that Guitarguy was obviously a troll, I'm just really confused about how a person of reasonable intelligence can make arguments the way he does.
He justifies this debate by claiming that he's fed up of us Britons "talk[ing] shit about America" and yet the whole purpose of creating this debate is to give him an excuse to talk shit about Britain.
And arguing with him in nationalist debates is nearly intolerable due to the lack of evidence to support the outrageous claims he makes, in another debate he said " I hope you[Britain] enjoy our[America's] TV shows, movies, websites... actually, the internet in general, restaurants, food, stores, books, music,". The idea that America gave Britain "food" or "books" is absurd and the only thing he has to back it up is "experience".
Every point that Guitarguy makes could easily be applied in the other direction. I could copy out his statement and use it to support my own side.
While I will not disagree to the point that America has an influence on Britain, that influence is nullified by the influence Britain has on America. Thus, it is stupid for Guitarguy to claim that Britain should thank America for "food" (etc).
"You are full of shit when you say that you didn't call him an obvious troll."
Good lord man! I'm talking about fast food chains, grocery store items, etc. Not ALL food! How is that not obvious? Is McDonalds, KFC, Burger King, etc. not in Britain?
That's exactly what a troll account would say. You pretend not to care about my opinions from the phrase "tough shit" but still reply to my argument in another attempt to provoke me.
Well, I'm not a troll account... that's about the best I can give ya. You'll just have to take my word for it.
I'm always trying to provoke you Ax. You should understand that by now. I just looked at my argument activity... 27 new responses on this debate alone! I'd say I did a pretty good job at "stirring the pot" lol.
Are you actually suggesting that the country who started to lose its massive empire because one country was able to revolt to start the whole unraveling has been putting that country that revolted to shame ever since. Yeah, it really sounds like it when I put it that way.
Well, after the American revolution we continued to conquer and colonise until we owned a quarter of the globe and governing a higher percentage of its population. This statement alone disproves your original point that the American revolution led to the British empire unravelling.
I suppose that teaches me to continue my "facts" beyond their truth. My statement was an assumption and an assumption I cannot prove. However I can come close:
The population of the British Empire in 1900 was 419,920,000, whereas the estimated world population was 1,700,000,000.
419,920,000/1,700,000,000=0.247... (Around 25% to 1dp)
I suppose we both fell short a bit this time around ;)
I meant culturally not militarily or territorially, also the British Empire reached it's peak around 1900, way after the American revolution so get your facts right. America got independence in the earlier day of the empire, had you fought us at our prime you would have lost.
America got independent in 1776 which was the Early days of the Empire since it started around and officially ended in 1997 when Hong Kong became independent.
