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Hybrid Human Cloning with other species OK?

  • We already eat strawberries with fish genes to tolerate cold snaps. We already inject human genes in corn in order to find a cure for cancer. Hybrid human gene cloning is already been done with plants but for some reason people are balking at the concept of Hybrid Human gene cloning with animals
  • New rules urged on hybrid animal-human experiments

  • Genetically Engineered Farmed Salmon
    Chinook Salmon genetically altered to eat year round. What are the chances that these FrankenFish may escape fish farms and alter wild endangered salmon in the open ocean?

Human cloned for sex

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This is her newborn:



Yes

Side Score: 59
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No

Side Score: 34
3 points

There are a number of misrepresentations with this topic in which I will dispel. Firstly your pictures have nothing to do with the topic. One picture comes from a horror movie and the other is of a sea cucumber.

Secondly, Genetically modified food (which I assume you are talking about based on your post) has nothing to do with hybridization. Hybridization is an entirely different process. Nor does it have particularly anything to do with cloning apart from the cloning that many asexual plants do in nature anyway.

Thirdly, let's be clear about this. Genetically modified food has saved billions of lives, that's Billions with a -B. If we can modify crop that are resistant to drought, that grows better in a particular type of soil composition, this can and has saved a lot of people's lives in a lot of starving countries. In light of this, any protest of 'FrankenFood' has proven to be unfounded and irrational.

Side: yes
1 point

OMG - you are good - it IS from a horror movie & it IS a sea cumcumber!

But I must dispute the Big B saved lives. Monsanto does give patented seed to starving African nations for free - just like a illicit drug dealer gives a freebie to give thier future addicted customers hooked on the shit that they selling.

There is a very big thing about Monsanto's 'evil empire' selling seeds that are dependent on Monsanto's pesticides, becuase the plants are made to resist the pesticide that Monsanto makes.

Maybe that's OK for rich American corporate farmers but not for the traditional farmer in Africa.

Monsanto Links:

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article8199.html

http://www.zimbio.com/Genetically+Modified+Crops/articles/2YRKljRflgm/Kenyan+farmers+protest+over+Monstanto+genetically

QUOTE: "The activists said the introduction of patented seeds and related chemicals into the farming systems threatens Kenya’s agricultural practices, livelihood, the environment, and undermines national seed sovereignty. "

Here's on Europe banned GM0's - and shut the hell up about it not a "real reference" the fricken fact is that GMO's ARE banned in Europe and if you dispute it Then show me a god-damn link buddy.....

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread631810/pg1

QUOTE:

"They TELL us that they HAVE to give us this GMO food to increase yields and all that garbage but we really know that Monstanto has paid off our CONgress very well to make this happen. Many countries in Europe have banned this Frankenfood but not the good ole USA. Nope, you see our criminal government doesn't care that it will destroy our natural crops and give us organ failures."

Side: Hell NO
Bohemian(3861) Disputed
1 point

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/gm-food-must-be-allowed-into-europe-wto- rules-465942.html

But I must dispute the Big B saved lives. Monsanto does give patented seed to starving African nations for free - just like a illicit drug dealer gives a freebie to give thier future addicted customers hooked on the shit that they selling.

Yet there is not a single shred of credible scientific evidence that GM food poses a hazard to your health. In fact there is a plethora of scientific evidence supporting the safety of GM crop. Since it's introduction there has not been a single recorded death, illness or ailment of any kind that can be linked to GM food.

http://www.agbioforum.org/v11n1/v11n1a03-brookes.htm

Even so, the fact that GM food was given out freely has only supported my argument.

Maybe that's OK for rich American corporate farmers but not for the traditional farmer in Africa.

I'll tell you what's not good for African farmers....starvation. Malnutrition is a very real, very serious reality throughout much of Africa, Asia, and south America. Millions of people go to bed hungry every night. 15 million children in the world die of starvation every year. High yield crops save lives. Yet we are supposed to stop growing them because of some unfounded fear that they are going to turn us into Frankenstein monsters.

QUOTE: "The activists said the introduction of patented seeds and related chemicals into the farming systems threatens Kenya’s agricultural practices, livelihood, the environment, and undermines national seed sovereignty. "

A paragraph that begins with "The activists said..." hardly supports what they say.

Here's on Europe banned GM0's - and shut the hell up about it not a "real reference" the fricken fact is that GMO's ARE banned in Europe and if you dispute it Then show me a god-damn link buddy.....

First of all, You gave a link to some person's blog, hardly a credible source.

Second of all, your blogger only says that it's banned in "many countries" in Europe, not as you claim all of Europe.

And, finally you are the one making the claim, it is your prerogative to prove that claim and not mine to disprove it. That is not how this works.

"They TELL us that they HAVE to give us this GMO food to increase yields and all that garbage but we really know that Monstanto has paid off our CONgress very well to make this happen. Many countries in Europe have banned this Frankenfood but not the good ole USA. Nope, you see our criminal government doesn't care that it will destroy our natural crops and give us organ failures.

Can you provide a single recorded instances of anyone anywhere having died of organ failure from eating GE food?

I think the answer to that is NO.

Side: yes
2 points

It's amazing the fog of tabloid fake news far right idiots are lost in.

Nothing from your headline nor pictures is even close to anything legal, being planned, or which has been done.

At any rate, I'd go into an explanation of how humans ability to alter genes is natural anyway in that it is a combination of evolution and nature which has allowed us to get nearly to that point,

and that not a single science that has ever started in the history of the world has ever been discontinued regardless how many village idiots with pitch forks set people on fire at the stake for it,

but you should get back to your tabloids. The stream of misinformation must be constant in order to ensure the continuation of your indoctrination.

Side: yes
2 points

As long as everybody is happy, then i see nothing wrong with it.

Side: yes

Penn and Teller are legends, I'd also never heard of Norman Bourlaug, he's now a personal hero.

Side: yes

To bad, Penn and Teller Bullshit was cancelled.------------------------

Side: yes

Then, if you think Penn and Teller are legends, then you are libertarian right.

Side: yes
1 point

I'm for human cloning and gens engineering.

Firstly, we live in world, where everything developing very fast. we must stepping with technologies as fast as they.

Secondly, we can cloning not only humans, but organs, which is very important for life, such as kidney... Nowadays it is very necessary for some operations. It will save people's life.

Next, cloning and genes engineering will be on leading position in future, so we must support them.

Also, we can prolong our life. we can live how much we want. Of course, from the first hearing its look like fantasy, but think about our past. what technologies and medicine operations we have for ex.20 years ago and compare it with our nowadays situation... in the past you thought that it is fantastic, but now you can touch and use it. and human cloning and genes engineering isn't exception!

Side: yes

I want it to be legalized so I can have raptor claws :D A cure for cancer utilizing a hybrid gene wouldn't hurt though...

Side: yes
1 point

not if were talking about like a human with shark teeth and a tiger from the waist down. if were talking about genetically modifying humans so we live longer and are spared from illness ok. it shouldn't be physical change but chemical or genetic for medical purposes(not just for healing but creating super humans and stuff as well)

Side: yes
1 point

Hybrid human is definitely something totally crazy, however, if scientists someday will find the proper way to actually create that kind of a human,(im talking about no negative impact for the human) the whole world could become better. Imagine a human with all kinds of resistances and resiliences, wouldn't it be kind of cool?

Side: Yes
3 points

Oh stop playing God. Okay? Atheist? Stop defying the force of nature. It is repelling bad enough. We don't need no Human spiders or anything. Really... We are good enough.

Side: No
5 points

What's wrong with playing god? And human spiders make great superheros!

Side: yes
92nida(1410) Disputed
2 points

Yeah... Except it has repelled a million times, in the form of nuclear reactions, estrogen causing cardiac arrests, excess plastic usage, running out of fuels and etc. I don't oppose all. Just a few that aren't essential.

And human spiders make great superheros!

I wish they really did. I love SPIDERMAN!

Side: No
1 point

I have no idea what 92nida was trying to say. But I support the Spiderman reference. :)

But really Is this a human-sized spider-hero? Of is it a fly-sized fly with a tweeny weeny human head caught in a spider web, screaming in a little teensy voice, "Help me! Help meeeeeeeeee!"

Side: Aquaman Navy SEAL TEAM 10
2 points

This without a doubt is the sickest debate...ever. The pictures literally make me want to puke. I pray the earth blows up before this would ever happen.....

How ironic that someone would post a female cloned for sex and not a male.....

How about a man that cant move with a huge gigantic penis?

Side: No
ricedaragh(2494) Disputed
3 points

The pictures literally make me want to puke. I pray the earth blows up before this would ever happen.....

I think the picture is meant as an Ironic caricature, one not to be taken as the desired effect.

How ironic that someone would post a female cloned for sex and not a male.....

Given the nature of male desires I reckon it'll definitely be a female before a male that is cloned for sex, being that women are far more intimate and men more carnal.

How about a man that cant move with a huge gigantic penis?

What women would ever want this? The physical limitations of a ladies privates are part of their allure, I doubt any women alive would want to have sex with a man who's schlong is of gargantuan proportions and neither would any man of sound mind want to have sex with the lady in the picture.

Side: yes
2 points

thanks. Of course the pictures are fantasies - and is merely a representation of a worst case what if. The arguement about the images doesn't pertain to the question.

Side: yes
1 point

In the USA it is illegal to label GMO as a GMO in your supermarket. Here's a tip: if it doesn't have the little sticker with four numbers on it then it is a GMO. That's why all your strawberries don't have a Fruit/Vegetable code.

In Europe, GMO's are banned and USA produce is not allowed to be imported. The GMO fields locations are a trade secret but if a regular farmer's field is contaminated with GMO - the farmer must pay the offending company.

Now .. what's even worse is in USA can patent a non-GMO that has been in existance for eons. I think this patent shit is way out of hand and is evil in itself.

Side: No
Bohemian(3861) Disputed
1 point

In Europe, GMO's are banned and USA produce is not allowed to be imported.

This simply isn't true.

Side: yes
1 point

well, You can downvote me if you want, and your statement will still be false. Europe as a whole does not ban anything, individual countries may ban certain imports in accordance with their own domestic laws and with international trade laws. A few countries within Europe have banned the import (Austria, and Hungary), but Europe as a whole has not instituted a continent wide ban. The European Union, did at one time place a ban on GM food, but has since been overturned.

Continue to make generalizations and you will be corrected.

Side: Yes
1 point

It would be odd to mess with genetics of two living things. (Animals/Humans)

Side: No
3 points

"(Animals/Humans)"

Humans are animals. Not a very good point of distinction for your point.

Side: yes
Sulith(508) Disputed
2 points

Let me put it this way then.

HOMO-SAPIENS and Beasts.

Happy?

Side: No
2 points

Humans are animals. Not a very good point of distinction for your point.

Is it pleasurable to you to refute a point with pedantry rather than reasonable consideration? You and I understand perfectly well what *"animals" refers to.

Side: No