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ISIS is Bush, Obama, or both's fault?

Bush or Obama

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Both

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Hello bront,

ISIS is an outgrowth of the Iraq war. Bush started that war. Ain’t nothing else to say about that.

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Side: Bush or Obama

ISIS is an outgrowth of the Iraq war. Bush started that war. Ain’t nothing else to say about that.

You really just have to be disgusted with Republicans for what they started in the Middle East. Bad enough that they launched illegal wars based entirely on their own lies, but now these Islamophobic cretins are trying to stop refugees escaping the region.

Side: Bush or Obama
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but now these Islamophobic cretins are trying to stop refugees escaping the region

Russia, Asad, and Obama turning Syria into a threshold of rubble has nothing to do with Republicans.

Most Muslim nations took no refugees. Saudi Arabia has haj tents for 3,000,000 people and took nerry a one. Why is that? Islamaphobia or protecting their own interests and people per common sense?

Side: Both
1 point

ISIS was organized in 2004, grew rapidly when hundreds of millions of dollars was "misplaced" by Dubya at the Baghdad Airport, then HIS choice of leader of Iraq (with HIS encouragement), threw out the Republican Guard ... and neglected to collect their weapons. The only "jobs" available to them were with ISIS. A few years later, Obama was elected. Next question?

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You forgot to mention that Obama left thousands of military grade weapons and vehicles that ISIS later got their hands on, and that Obama supported the ousting of Mobarek and the ousting of Gaddafi who was fighting "Al qaeda", the group that ISIS stemmed from. You also didn't mention that Gaddafi warned Obama and Tony Blair what would happen after their regime changes through military force, and that what he warned would happen is exactly what did happen and is happening. Bush is a clown beyond measure, and so is the circus freak you replaced him with.

Side: Both

• Democrats support no restriction abortions!

• ...but her emails!

• Hogwash!

• Jesus love you...you're going to burn in hell!

• You fools!

• You spew lies and deception as always!

• Anti-Christian bigots!

• Republicans can do no wrong!

• Democrats can do no right!

• I masturbate to Donald Trump!

-FromWithin

Side: Bush or Obama

Ultimately it was Bush's fault, because Obama inherited the presidency after Bush had already created massive problems in the Middle East. I think Obama definitely has to take responsibility for Syria though, and by extension he has to take a large chunk of responsibility for ISIS.

Side: Both
1 point

Easily both. Bush brought it into being, but with Obama's drone wars, he's made recruiting as easy as pie.

Side: Both
1 point

Both. Every President has a variety of choices and actions. If after they exercise them a threat still exists and it spans several Presidencies, then it's a shared fault by all those Presidents. This means it's also Trump's fault, unless during his presidency the problem fully disappeared through the rest of his term.

Side: Both