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 I have met very few people on this site who admit they are Democrat or Liberal. WHY? (26)

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I have met very few people on this site who admit they are Democrat or Liberal. WHY?

It's funny how Conservatives have no problem admitting who they are. You ever ask yourself why? Well I have a few ideas if you would like to read a bit further.

First of all it's hard defending supporting late term abortions for any reason when you vote for Democrats. The GOP is trying to get a law passed that would protect our children past five months of pregnancy unless life of mother or some other extreme cases. The Democrats have already said they will stop it. So obviously you do not want to admit you are one of the millions of Americans supporting late term abortions on demand by voting for Democrats. It tends to make you look a little cold and inhuman.

Conservatives support the right to life of these unborn Babies. Who would have a problem defending that position?

Lets see, Democrats support taking many of our gun rights from us. Hmmm that's been a losing position for decades but they just keep pushing it. But they will not admit it, they will just talk about the laughable Assualt rifle excuse as if that is the only guns Democrats want to take. New York passed the Safe Act(safe for criminals) where they made hunting rifles that held more than seven rounds illegal and all law abiding citizens would have to turn them in or become criminals. I could see why Democrats do not want to admit voting for the politicians who would take so many of our gun rights.

Lets see, Democrats supported Obamacare and lied through their teeth to get it passed. Yes, I understand.... to admit yourself being Democrat is a bad place to be but you will still vote for these corrupt liars next time. Oh I forgot, you will say the GOP is no better but you won't have example after example why this is suppose to be true. Please stay in this decade and not bring up supposed lies from polticians in the past, it makes you look the fool.

Lets see, Democrats love taking money from one group of people and giving to another. The problem being that the ones they give the money to most always vote for Democrats. Hmmmmm....

Lets see, Democrats love to race bate creating divisions between Americans. The problem being once again that approx. 95% of the Black vote goes to Democrats. Hmmmmmm....

Lets see, Democrats constantly push to put illegal immigrants on the path to a legal status.... gee I wonder who those people will reward when they get the right to vote. I understand admitting that you support rewarding illegal immigrants citizenship is not something most Americans want to hear.

Well I could on and on giving example after example why people never like admitting they are Liberal or Democrats. But you get the point.

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Atrag(5550) Banned
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Do you ever have a thought that isn't followed by "YOURE ALL FUCKING DEMOCRATS!!!AAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!"? :)

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Only a Democrat would ask that! Or a Liberal.

....OR A SOCIALIST!!!!

It is simple: Because they aren't. You have a preconceived notion of who disagrees with you, and you aren't willing to accept that the world does not fall into place with it. You don't understand that there are a LOT of ideologies out there, and some of the will disagree with you without fitting into this "us vs them" dichotomy you have created.

So, my Don Quixote, the answer is quite simple: They do not "admit" they are a Democrat or a Liberal because they are not, in fact, Democrats or Liberals. The better question, is why can't you accept that?

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Same reason why you don't admit to being a troll.

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The GOP is trying to get a law passed that would protect our children past five months of pregnancy unless life of mother or some other extreme cases.

This actually goes against conservative values. Conservatives want smaller government and even try to claim that they don't propose laws to stop people from doing certain things, then they make laws to stop people from having abortions. Conservatives even say that passing a law will not stop criminals because they already don't follow the law. So, this law makes no sense.

Conservatives support the right to life of these unborn Babies. Who would have a problem defending that position?

Republicans would since they don't want to support them at all after they are actually born.

Lets see, Democrats love taking money from one group of people and giving to another. The problem being that the ones they give the money to most always vote for Democrats. Hmmmmm....

This is true of the Republicans as well, they just hide it better. The Republicans will tax everyone, but fight for bigger tax breaks for the rich which is the same as taking it from the middle class.

Just a thought- when everybody who disagrees with you appears to be an extremist of some kind, and when nobody appears to agree with you... chances are, you're some kind of extremist.

I've seen you label several users as 'Democrat' or 'Liberal' that have been demonstrated repeatedly to have a tendency to lean right on most issues. Why is this? Because this persona you're portraying on CD is a right-wing extremist, and to such an extremist all moderates and most conservatives appear quite liberal.

I am not a democrat, nor do I belong to any political party.

I am liberal, though. When have I claimed to be otherwise?

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Have you ever considered this possibility?

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Nomoturtle(716) Clarified
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thank you so much for posting this video. .

Well, none of the responses explained anything at all.... what a shock. We've got one person that will not admit being anything. How nice not to take a stand or be honest to who and what you mostly stand for.....bigger Government or smaller Government? He will not admit even leaning to the Liberal side of arguments even though HE ALWAYS DOES!

OF COURSE none of us agree with everything Political Parties stand for but we mostly know our core beliefs and what side we more align ourselves. ADMIT IT if you are not ashamed of it.

I have met hardly one person who will admit supporting late term abortions on demand, but you never say you would not vote for a Democrat that supports it. You lie about how late term abortions on demand are not legal. If that is true why do Democrats fight against the GOP bills to make abortions on demand illegal(except for life of mother and other extreme case) after five months. Your rhetoric of lies shows who you truly are. If you would vote for a Democrat that supports late term abortions on demand, WHERE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES?

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Again, you won't admit to being wrong, yet you demand others to admit to holding to an ideology they do not adhere to. There are many of us who are to the "left" but aren't liberals. I, for example, am a Social Democratic, which is to the left of American Liberalism (not that you are familiar with political ideology).

People are not admitting to things because, again, YOU ARE WRONG. Your arrogance in trying to tell people what ideology they have is astounding. Quit thinking you know better than they do what they think. It is elitist.

"I have met hardly one person who will admit supporting late term abortions on demand, but you never say you would not vote for a Democrat that supports it. You lie about how late term abortions on demand are not legal. If that is true why do Democrats fight against the GOP bills to make abortions on demand illegal(except for life of mother and other extreme case) after five months. Your rhetoric of lies shows who you truly are. If you would vote for a Democrat that supports late term abortions on demand, WHERE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES?" It's called not being a single issue voter. Many people are against abortions as a single topic, but against multiple topics from the GOP's platform, and thus vote Democratic.

FromWithin(8239) Disputed
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Like I said, WHERE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES?

I wonder if Germans made the same ludicrous excuse you make that allowed the Nazi Party to be in power. I wonder if they said they were personally pro life for Jewish people but were against multiple issues in the other Parties. Would that excuse fly with you or would you have one ounce of humanity and understand there is such a thing as priorities.

Life and death being one of those priorities.

Would you use that same moronic excuse if a party supported killing children after they are born. How about if a party supported the choice of a women to kill her one year old child. Would you say that is but one issue and still vote for that party?

This is where you start talking about Straw men or some such garbage.

Stickers(1037) Clarified
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Well, none of the responses explained anything at all.... what a shock. We've got one person that will not admit being anything. How nice not to take a stand or be honest to who and what you mostly stand for.....bigger Government or smaller Government? He will not admit even leaning to the Liberal side of arguments even though HE ALWAYS DOES!

You may as well say who.

OF COURSE none of us agree with everything Political Parties stand for but we mostly know our core beliefs and what side we more align ourselves. ADMIT IT if you are not ashamed of it.

I think that you're conflating the word "belief" with views and opinions.

I have met hardly one person who will admit supporting late term abortions on demand,

Define "late term"?

but you never say you would not vote for a Democrat that supports it.

What people don't say means literally nothing at all.

You lie about how late term abortions on demand are not legal.

Source? It shouldn't be too hard to find on this site, and it'll shed some light on who these mysterious people are.

If that is true why do Democrats fight against the GOP bills to make abortions on demand illegal (except for life of mother and other extreme case) after five months.

Are you seriously suggesting that all Democrats support abortion past five months?

Your rhetoric of lies shows who you truly are. If you would vote for a Democrat that supports late term abortions on demand, WHERE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES?

For them, their priorities are probably fixated on alleviating poverty, mitigating the poor's lack of access to education, and addressing humanity's impact on climate change, rather than pretending that these problems don't exist (or placing them in higher importance than assigning human rights to something that cannot understand language, is not self aware, and doesn't experience cognitive or affective empathy).

FromWithin(8239) Disputed
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Well at least it is nice to see you admit that in your world of Liberal indoctrination, "alleviating poverty, mitigating the poor's lack of access to education, and addressing humanity's impact on climate change" are more important to you than taking another's innocent life. To me that makes you clinically brainwashed. When simple life and death of an innocent person does not outweigh access to good education.... WOW!!!!!!

Jace(5052) Clarified
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You may as well say who.

Right? I believe he may be talking about me though. I have tried explaining nihilism to him ("not admit to being anything"?)... he keeps conflating it with liberals and democrats somehow.

Jace(5052) Clarified
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We've got one person that will not admit being anything. How nice not to take a stand or be honest to who and what you mostly stand for.....bigger Government or smaller Government? He will not admit even leaning to the Liberal side of arguments even though HE ALWAYS DOES! OF COURSE none of us agree with everything Political Parties stand for but we mostly know our core beliefs and what side we more align ourselves. ADMIT IT if you are not ashamed of it.

Am I incorrect to guess that this is directed at me?

FromWithin(8239) Clarified
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You are sadly incorrect. It was not directed at you but if the shoe fits, wear it :)

The fact that you thought I was talking to you means it hit home.

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It was 34 the bird .

Generic, Like I said, WHERE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES?

I wonder if Germans made the same ludicrous excuse you make that allowed the Nazi Party to be in power. I wonder if they said they were personally pro life for Jewish people but were against multiple issues in the other Parties. Would that excuse fly with you or would you have one ounce of humanity and understand there is such a thing as priorities.

Life and death being one of those priorities.

Would you use that same moronic excuse if a party supported killing children after they are born. How about if a party supported the choice of a women to kill her one year old child. Would you say that is but one issue and still vote for that party?

This is where you start talking about Straw men or some such garbage.

Jace(5052) Clarified
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Why do you keep ignoring the key issue, which is differences in opinions on when life begins? Your Nazi analogy makes no logical sense, so I'm going to ignore it and instead refer to your actual argument. The Democratic party does not support "killing children", before or after they are born. They support keeping abortion illegal, and to the Democratic party a zygote is not a life, hence it is not killing a "baby" or "child". That is not an "excuse", it is a belief that you do not share.

And no, I would not support the killing of children after they are born at any age. I don't even support late-term abortions unless the mother's life is at risk.

And the straw man logical fallacy is not "garbage", it is proof that you often employ illogical arguments with weak premises.

FromWithin(8239) Disputed
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Quit spewing such nonsense when you say you do not support late term abortions. WHEN YOU VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS YOU ARE SUPPORTING LATE TERM ABORTIONS FOR ANY REASON! Quit denying it!

Nazi's believed Jewish people were not superior people like themselves and deserved to die. Any nation with an ounce of humanity should never allow the killing of innocent life just because selfish inhuman groups say it is ok to do so. Just because pro choice people call an innocent human being a zygote DOES NOT MAKE IT SO! Five Justices out of nine passed Roe v Wade! Five people decided the right of life for millions of Babies! It only takes one judge to over rule entire states on the issue of Gay's right's to marriage. Can you imagine the priorities in this sick culture? Right of life? NO! Right of Gays to marry? YES!

It's amazing how far into the gutter this nation has gone since Liberalism has taken hold. It's all about self love today. If that baby is a burden on a person's fun in life, it is now expendable at any stage thanks to those on the Left.