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 I know Trump is a bad choice, however, I'd like to see what he'd do to the USA (21)

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I know Trump is a bad choice, however, I'd like to see what he'd do to the USA

It would be interesting to see. I know he'd probably get rid of affirmative action and screw over a lot of people. 
He'd also get rid of socialized health care, and probably drive up the prices of everything.
But, I feel as if an era of hardship is necessary for historians to show how bad things can get, when people don't pay attention.
No one seems to care anymore.
I know that Hillary would be safer, she is over qualified for the position, however, Trump has the ability to create so much.
He'd be like a dictator from old times. It would be like reliving history.
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Some people just want to watch the world burn ;)

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Trump is actually smarter than most anti-Trump people give him credit for. What they don't realize Trump is doing is he's using the Art of War. The greatest weapon is one you never have to use. That's what he's doing. People are taking him all literally that he's going to start WW3 and attack countries and bully them etc. What he's actually doing is what all great generals and leaders do, put on a game face and show the world that you are serious and mean business. He's talking the big game because he's intentionally trying to set the tone that USA will not be pushovers, walking mats, and wussies. He's saying all these tough guy things intentionally because he doesn't actually plan on ever using any military force at all. It's the Art of War. Think about it. How did he become a self-made billionaire? By being an idiot? He's obviously a master at communicating, understanding the mind, negotiations, and he never had to fire off a single gun to gain all the money and power and success he currently has. Now that is brilliance. See all the other Presidents who are regarded as strong and powerful. They've all had to do it by actually going to war and firing weapons and sending troops. Trump didn't even have to lift a finger. This is the Art of War. He's going to make for a great President if the secret powers actually allow him. Me still thinks the elections are rigged and Hillary will win because it was scripted decades ago for her to eventually win after the first "black" president, the first "woman" president will get the nod.

nobodyknows(745) Disputed
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I think you are mistaking who is using the Art of War here. I am pretty sure it is Russia. Getting a moron in the White House is the best way for Russia to shit the balance of power. Why do you think Putin speaks so highly of Trump, because he thinks he would be good for the US? No, Putin is ex-KGB, he hates the US. He likes Trump because he knows he could provoke him. RT is pumping out anti-Hillary stories and promoting Jill Stein and the Bernie or Busters. Putin thinks Hillary is the worse opponent, that's why he is helping her opponents.

Now, about the billionaire thing. Give me 100 million dollars and I will make myself a "self-made billionaire". You should also mention that he is only an alleged billionaire. We have yet to have any proof besides his word, which is pretty unreliable. Given his stinginess with charity, I would actually be surprised to find out he has net worth above a billion. What billionaire creates a scam university? What billionaire stiffs his contractors? Why is he so scared to show his tax returns? Smells like a con.

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I totally agree. Trump is clearly a very smart man.

No regular folk could have achieved as much as him.

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Yeah, right. Vote for that idiot just to see what would happen.

Like some sort of science experiment, eh? And damn the consequences.

"Hmm...gee...let's see what happens if I combine this sulfuric acid with ammonia and then add a few cc's of gasoline to it and then drop a match in the bucket."

LOL.

It would be interesting to see. I know he'd probably get rid of affirmative action and screw over a lot of people.

He'd also get rid of socialized health care, and probably drive up the prices of everything.

I highly doubt he could ever get rid of AA. Although I surely would like to see it happen, since I have always been a firm believer that it is a terrible law, and amount to no less than reverse racism. I have never had a pro AA person explain to me satisfactorily how it is not.

I DO believe Trumpy could eradicate Obama Care. And again, I am for this. As a vet I don't have to worry about all that since I have full VA benefits. But still, I think it's unconstitutional and is a law that most Americans either don't want or do not understand.

But, I feel as if an era of hardship is necessary for historians to show how bad things can get, when people don't pay attention.

We have already bee through enough hardship, thanks just the same. What's the matter? Weren't Twelve Years in an ill-waged and misbegotten war in Iraq, as well as the economically crippling 2008 financial meltdown enough hardship for you?

And then we had a little thing called 9/11. And the fact that the Bush Administration exploited that event to create a Police State, and also rob us of about half of our civil rights.

No one seems to care anymore

Partially true, I admit. Voter apathy, especially among the young--those under 30--has always been a problem in this country. Most of those twits are too busy playing with their social media or trying to find Pokemon. And the little girls are too worried about not getting fatter and getting that elusive first orgasm.

Side note: Next time you feel stupid, just remember some idiot is outside trying to find Pokemon.

LOL

I know that Hillary would be safer, she is over qualified for the position, however, Trump has the ability to create so much.

Yes she would. So it's a good thing she's gonna win the election, right? As far as Trump Creating so much, you must remember: he has to work with Congress in order to get legislation passed. And I think he will be terrible at working across the aisle. As bad as ANY POTUS in history. The man simply breeds hate and hostility. Most of his own Party did not even want him in there.

He'd be like a dictator from old times. It would be like reliving history.

"Re-living?" Since when in history has the USA has a dictator? Answer: Never. We ARE a democracy, not a Monarchy. And anyway, again: Congress. Checks and balances. Limited powers; the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

No: Trumpy would just be a very bad and hot-tempered megalomaniacal POTUS, and would do far more harm than good, As well as make this country even MORE hated and mocked in the world. The very last thing we need.

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The novelty of it is, I admit, interesting. But I only find it interesting because I'd be a member of one of the groups least effected by his presidency and policies. For the sake of those I know who are Hispanic or South Asian (primarily), I do not believe the novelty is worth it. Since his ascendance to presidential candidate, my wife and her parents (the latter of which came here from India) have faced explicit, blatant racial harassment, and have been told that Trump is going to kick their Muslim asses out of the country. They are catholic.

Aside from the social problems involved, his policies would have the same effect. Yes, it would be interesting to see what the effect would be when you end all visa programs, vacating thousands upon thousands upon thousands of jobs all across the spectrum and across the country. It would be interesting to see what the effect would be when you spend billions upon billions of dollars to build a border wall that would effect less than half of all illegal immigrants. It would be interesting to see the effect of us leaving the World Trade Organization and NATO.

But it wouldn't be interesting enough considering the unbelievable amount of damage all of that would do to us as a country.

Ignoramis(381) Clarified
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What Trump doesn't realize is that they check most immigrants coming into the states. However, those going into Mexico, are not screened.

shaash(435) Clarified
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Do you live in Oklahoma. ?

IAmSparticus(1517) Clarified
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Nope .

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Trump has no actual vision and actual plans. What he would do is start to systematically sell us out to whomever he wants to have business with after leaving office. And as the voices arose against him he would resort to the smears and insults and police state tactics.

Trump would ruin the US, ruin what it means to be an American, and piss on YOUR dreams unless you are wealthy.

Hey, you know what he would replace Obamacare with? Nothing. Nothing. His kind doesn't need safety net health insurance, so why would he support that? Nor Medicare/Medicaid, nor affordable steps to keep costs down like HMOs and PPOs. He'd probably even try to take away the requirement employers offer a health insurance plan (because that would save him money). You and the rest of us would end up dealing mano to mano with big insurance companies and paying full price for minimal coverage.

Wake up

I think Trump is actually better than what most people think of him- the only problem with Trump is that he fails to differentiate between what's politically incorrect and what's rude, which is why he gets so much flak- I see him as a better candidate than Clinton and would preferably give him 4 years to run DC

IAmSparticus(1517) Clarified
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Which of his policies do you believe are better than Clinton's, and do you distinguish between "rude" and "offensive/inappropriate"?

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You just said...."But, I feel as if an era of hardship is necessary for historians to show how bad things can get, when people don't pay attention.

No one seems to care anymore."

Exactly correct but what you missed is that we just lived through your example. We just had the most Liberal president in our lifetimes running our nation.

WE ARE OVER 19 TRILLION IN DEBT AFTER HE DOUBLED THE TOTAL COMBINED DEBT OF ALL PRIOR PRESIDENTS IN SUCH A SHORT TIME. We are spending 2.4 BILLION dollars every single day on the interest payments for that debt!

So tell me, did Democrats and all these low end voters learn anything? Did they pay attention? NO! They want MORE free stuff no matter our children's future will be bankrupcy. Did you pay attention?

Did you notice how all those Democrats at the convention did not seem to care any more?

Dependent people who have been conditioned to believe they have a right to demand charity from tax payers, could not care less about that huge debt. They will demand free stuff until the Government checks bounce.

I can't believe you had the nerve to say that Trump would driver up healthcare prices. LOLOLOLOL....OBAMACARE? HELLO? Premiums have skyrocketed. Deductibles have skyrocketed. The middle class can not even afford to have insurance but Obama forces them to buy his sick Obamcare so they can subsidise his low income voting block while the middle class can't afford their own family's health insurance!

I am so sick of being the cash cow for Democrats to buy votes! It is pure corruption!

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You have no idea how Democratics think. You have no idea what they want. You have no idea why they support the policies they support.

You simply have no idea. So stop trying to speak for them, and instead, fucking ask.

Getting angry out of ignorance accomplishes nothing.

Ignoramis(381) Disputed
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I've never heard of a war that didn't put the country in debt. Have you? Since antiquity, its been known by royalty that war strains resources until the enemies resources are gained.

By free stuff, do you mean those investments in the future of the country (something conservatives do not do?)? For example, education, health care, sciences etc ...

The premium on health care is paid upfront due to all those untreated diseases floating around, and due to ... wait for it ... inflated medical salaries! The number 1 cost driver!

SlapShot(2607) Clarified
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I've never heard of a war that didn't put the country in debt. Have you?

As a matter of fact, I have. And I am guessing you too have almost certainly heard of this war as well. You just don't know it.

I am speaking of WWII. Which not only did NOT put the USA in debt, it was the primary factor in propelling us out of the 10-year-long crippling Depression we were in at the time.

Granted, we were beginning to climb out of the Depression when Pearl Harbor occurred, but still, most economists agree that the War gave us more impetus to shrug-off the last remnants of the Depression than did even FDR's "New Deal" policies.

The first Gulf War, known as Desert Storm, also did not put us significantly further into debt.

I don't think Korea did either. Although technically it was termed as a "conflict." But to anybody with knowledge of Wars, that word was just a government euphemism, and Korea was every bit a real war.

Hope this helps you a bit.

SS

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/ 2011-12-16/how-did-world-war-ii-end-the-great-depression-echoes

FromWithin(8235) Disputed
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