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I’m gonna get vaccinated. You?
Certainly. I’m sane
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Hell no. I’m not insane
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If I survive long enough for it to get to me I'd be stupid not to. This is a totally different vaccine from those previous, entirely different technology. THAT is why it was developed so fast, nothing to do with "warp speed"! There are some villains in China, there are also some heroes. Chinese scientists, within days, solved the genetic code of the virus and put it on the internet. Drug companies immediately started work WEEKS before Trump decided it might be a good idea to get his name on the process. He really didn't give a DAMN about the people he lied to, just their VOTES! Then he refused to buy millions of doses he COULD HAVE RESERVED, so, now many more can go to other countries. Not that they don't deserve them, THEY had leaders who saw the writing on the wall! Trump had trouble reading it. ID ten T! Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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You don't have to add characters to reach the max limit. Just add a ton of space in between words. I always wondered how that was done. I suspected it had something to do with using the mobile version, so looks like I was completely on the wrong track. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
I always wondered how that was done. I suspected it had something to do with using the mobile version, so looks like I was completely on the wrong track. It took you this long to figure out something I discovered 3 years ago even though you've been using this site longer than me because you are less intelligent than me. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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I wouldn't get a vaccine that's less than 10 years old. These things take testing over time they can have a lot of data now, but there's still a lot of stuff scientist can't predict. Plus I don't feel safe with the government making choices about my body. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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I wouldn't get a vaccine that's less than 10 years old. Then if you or any of your family die from Covid it will be your own fault. I'm not sure I could cope with knowing that my own ignorance had cost my loved ones their lives. These things take testing over time they can have a lot of data now, but there's still a lot of stuff scientist can't predict. And on the other side of that argument is a killer disease which is highly contagious and ripping through the world population like wildfire. I guess it comes down to whether your priority is distrusting vaccines or living. Plus I don't feel safe with the government making choices about my body. Ah yes, I knew that was coming. Never mind that the government is offering you that choice of course. The vaccine isn't mandatory. We must still always put distrust of government first. Jolly good. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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1: How am I harming my family if they're all vaccinated? This only affects me. 2: I'm not afraid of Covid survival rate in my age group is 99.997 3: The government is still administering it and since there are many folks like you, they don't have to make it mandatory. Good luck getting the vaccine, Cheers! Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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How am I harming my family if they're all vaccinated? This only affects me. Well no, because you are baselessly assuming your ignorance doesn't run in the family. People tend to believe those they love and trust and are more likely to be persuaded by their ideas or wishes. You simply invented a fake situation to validate your own poor judgement. I'm not afraid of Covid survival rate in my age group is 99.997 Firstly, no it isn't. Not unless you are under nine. Secondly, obviously you don't live in a vacuum. You come into contact with other people and some of those people are more vulnerable to diseases like this. According to data from the British Medical Journal, people over the age of 80 have a 7.8 percent death rate from Covid, which means you are going to kill almost one in every ten you meet. https://www.bmj.com/content/369/ Finally, you are misrepresenting death as the only problem which can be caused by your stubborn ignorance. That is not the case. According to data also obtained from the British Medical Journal, one percent of people aged under thirty require hospital admission, rising to 20 percent of over 80 year olds. If more people need treatment than hospitals can accommodate, that leads to yet more deaths. https://www.bmj.com/content/369/ The government is still administering it and since there are many folks like you, they don't have to make it mandatory You claimed that the government was making choices for you about your body. It isn't, so just admit you were wrong. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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1: For the most part my family members are intending to get vaccinated, plus it's just us guys who decide not to get it who are at risk so do worry about me giving it to you. 2:Yes they do have a 7.8 percent death rate but that means they also have a 93.2 percent survival rate. 3:I'm not to worried that they're going to mandate it they have other ways. But 85% of people will get it and they have the technology to ..........., so it's only human nature that they will take advantage of this. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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"I'm not to worried that they're going to mandate it they have other ways. But 85% of people will get it and they have the technology to ..........., so it's only human nature that they will take advantage of this." So, we just screw off with the other 15%? Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Why is it you nincompoops so often just insult before providing any reason? Republicans Democrats, most of everyone are rude un-educated! It gets tested on people first and caused reactions with them. Plus if you don't mind me asking when was the last time you watched the news? it's been out for around a week! Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Do you want to risk the life of a sentient being who realizes and can feel emotional pain just like you on a deeper level? We know, as a species what it means to be a species, socially and emotionally. It's not good to assume that for another species we ultimately AREN'T. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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Myu reason is because the animal is unable to consent, animals have rights, and testing methods, are sometimes cruel, to the animal. Yeshua said to do unto, others. Who says, that only applies to humans? Proverbs 12:10 says the righteous man regardeth the life of his beast, but the tender mercies, of the wicked, are cruel? How can you regard the life of your beast, if you kill him or her? Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Funny enough, there is a Covid-19 vaccine for animals. https://www.wcnc.com/video/syndication/ Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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It's for the greater good to become that 85% of people who will get the vaccine, because, long story short, if you don't have any allergies from vaccines, you probably won't die from this mRNA and RNA vaccine. Not doing so is being ignorant to facts. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Are you crazy? Police who spy or neutralize criminals have a justification for doing so, they are criminals who violated social conduct and moral conduct. Criminals who spy or neutralize people don't have a justification for doing so, because those people are innocent. A criminal killing a policeman is not justifiable because a policeman was simply doing his job by protecting/enforcing social and moral conduct (and law too). With this in mind, who are you going to call when somebody robs you or attempts to hurt you? The police. That's who you call. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Don't. Oh my god. Are we actually debating with literal idiots? ANARCHIST. DO YOUR RESEARCH. PLEASE. https://www.msn.com/en- Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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They literally can't. Please listen. The smallest GPS tracking device is 3x bigger than the diameter of your average vaccine needle. How are you going to expect them to cut your arm open and insert a tracker? GPS SIZE: 38mm x 52mmm NEEDLE DIAMETER: 0.5mm to 0.6mm https://www.istartek.com/ https://www.cochrane.org/CD010720/ Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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So, therefore vaccines have tracking chips in them? You are putting assumption upon assumption, with no concrete facts to support it. You always use the "probability" card to make your arguments harder to object to. Eventually, you will run out of assumptions because you aren't basing your arguments on facts. Only assumptions. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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So, therefore vaccines have tracking chips in them? You are putting assumption upon assumption Clearly, this belief about tracking chips is insane and need not be taken seriously, let alone refuted. You are absolutely right of course, but to even acknowledge a suggestion so baseless perhaps lends it more credibility than it is worth, which is zero. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Since it has come to my attention that I am uneducated on Nanotechnology I no longer feel that I an educated enough to say whether such claims of tiny tracking chips are possible. However I strongly believe that the government will do this if they can, so the only logical thing to do is to not get the vaccine. I wish you good luck on your decision to do so though! Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Since it has come to my attention that I am uneducated on Nanotechnology I no longer feel that I an educated enough to say whether such claims of tiny tracking chips are possible. I think you should certainly be given credit for almost admitting you were wrong, but rather than the practicalities of such a claim I feel your bigger problem was more the lack of evidence and coherent explanation about why you feel the government would want (or need) to do this. As far as I can tell, the government can track you just fine when it wants to through your mobile device. It is completely senseless to me that the government would risk everything on installing people with tracking chips which, let's face it, will at some point be discovered by the public. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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The government can track us with phones but we can always put them down, but we're screwed if they can put trackers in us! It's only human nature that the government (which is geared towards the oppression of the people by human nature) will take any opportunity they get to oppress the people. Hey does it seem weird to you how suddenly our statuses have changed so now it says I'm getting the vaccine and you're not? Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Yes, oh no, you are right, we are screwed if they put trackers in us, dude, I think literally everybody knows that. You keep, like said, always going on the logical fallacy of appeal to probability. And, no, it's not weird because it is just some weird glitch. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Please don't keep going on about your human nature and tracking chips because you are using probability to justify/reason/prove your claim. It's not weird to me, because if you know what view I'm supporting then the statuses aren't a good indicator. Eh, it's whatever, g. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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What I'm saying is that the government will do this if they can it's human nature. I already said I have no right to keep talking about tracking chips until I've read up a bit on Nanotechnology, I'm just saying what they will do if they can. what view are you supporting? Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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"Since it has come to my attention that I am uneducated on Nanotechnology I no longer feel that I an educated enough to say whether such claims of tiny tracking chips are possible. However I strongly believe that the government will do this if they can, so the only logical thing to do is to not get the vaccine. I wish you good luck on your decision to do so though!" Why would the government do this if they can? Furthermore, betting on a 50/50 chance that the government will do this is worse than not choosing a 100% chance of resistance to the COVID-19 virus. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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Give me one piece of evidence that they will not put tracking chips in vaccines at some point! So, to clarify, you want us to give you evidence about the future in order to convince you to do something in the present? Where do they actually find you people? 😆 Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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"That's your right sweetheart, but I have religious objections, and one medical excemption. The COVID vaccine contains dead fetal and animal products and since I am an antiabortion vegan for religious reasons, I can't get any vaccine." Sure. Yep. Totally not antiabortion. Seems like you just changed your position just in the nick of time. Unborn babies are literally a part of the mother's body LMAO, just wait until BurritoLunch sees this. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Mice, pigs, cattle, and horses have been used for medical purposes. Their sacrifice was for a great cause. It was for the greater good. This is offtopic but, on the topic of animal cruelty, why eat animal products but not get vaccines that have been tested on animals? Such a situation is hypocritical, and I bet you ate something belonging to an animal. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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The difference being that those with Asian, European, African, and etc were the same species as us. They may have been taxonomically different from one another, but they both shared the same culture, biological physique, and ultimately were the same species no matter where you put your racist ideologies. Just because people didn't see things that way back then does not mean I'm 200 years behind social and cultural norms. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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People saw race the same way you see species it is our duty as humans to help those who can not stand up for themselves. I'm not racist but if saying all lives matter whether human or animal is racist then I'm a proud neo nazi! I really don't know how you got the idea that I'm racist. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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I'm not racist but if saying all lives matter whether human or animal is racist then I'm a proud neo nazi! You might be missing the point here. Saying all lives matter when the problem is specifically that one race is being killed disproportionately is an effort to obfuscate and distort the actual issue and bring it in line with your own agenda. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Literally like a few million or thousand years ago? Like, if you know a thing or two about evolution then you'd know how human evolution works. Bigger brains = better humans. Those with a better brain survived and it is with that in mind, no pun intended, which leads us to the ability to be sentient. Animals, other than us, don't critically think about abstract things like math for example, and physics for that matter. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Yes, I had a pet, it was a black and white bunny named "Jade". Not exactly, I don't know if I made it clear but it is not to judge solely on intellect, but rather our moral duty to help humans. Our intellect allowed us to have the moral duty to help humans before animals. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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I said all lives matter because they do. some people don't see it that way, but all lives do matter whether human of animal. some people seem to think it's racist to say this. I'm not sure racism is the right word for it, but I think I understand. Look, I agree with you about certain animals being sentient. I also understand there is evidence to suggest many animals feel things like fear and excitement, and of course pain. I'm all for animal rights wherever it is possible to implement them. All that said, in order for science to progress, experiments must be conducted. That's simply a fact. There should be a strict code of ethics involved of course. No unnecessary suffering. No experimenting just for the sake of it. But ultimately all knowledge comes at a price. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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"I'm not sure racism is the right word for it, but I think I understand. Look, I agree with you about certain animals being sentient. I also understand there is evidence to suggest many animals feel things like fear and excitement, and of course pain. I'm all for animal rights wherever it is possible to implement them. All that said, in order for science to progress, experiments must be conducted. That's simply a fact. There should be a strict code of ethics involved of course. No unnecessary suffering. No experimenting just for the sake of it. But ultimately all knowledge comes at a price." This is exactly what I'm trying to say. Thanks. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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Black people and white people aren't different species, they are subspecies, yes, but they could still breed and have offspring. There is a huge difference there between race and animals. No, humans with low IQs shouldn't be treated poorly but that seems like a misinterpretation or misrepresentation of my argument. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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I fail to see how it's racist. frankly it's only racist if you somehow see race as a sacred thing that must not be mentioned in comparison, and fail to see the very real similarities. You seem to not realize that discrimination is just as bad no matter who it is. No doubt you'd prefer I say "what" though. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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Our biological directive tells us to survive and think for the best. Putting that aside, our moral directive tells us to care for others which can either help your biological directive or emotional responses. You may certainly help an animal, but if sacrificing an animal is needed, then it must be done for the greater good. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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It's just something we evolved, buddy, there really is no 'why' other than the fact that it helped us make ethical choices for our survival, in dire situations. Who do you save first from a bear attack? The rabbit you just caught? Or your tribemate John? Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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I know that pigs feel pain if you're an atheist do you really think humans feel totally different from our closest animal relatives? It's not like the human brain advanced that much since evolving. I may not be a pig but it's irrational to assume they are "of lesser sentience" keep in mind the slave owners had no way of telling what the slaves thought. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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"I know that pigs feel pain if you're an atheist do you really think humans feel totally different from our closest animal relatives?" Yes. Honestly, cringing at vaccines all because of how emotional you are towards the fact to further advance medical sciences you must test and experiment on biological entities with biological antigens is stupid. Think of it this way, their sacrifice was for a great cause. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Nobody ever implied they were here for OUR needs. We simply use one another, as part of a natural ecosystem. Since we aren't the most important beings on the planet, what makes other animals so important? We are all both the same, we simply use one another. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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No, but sometimes animals eat our bodies or kill us. We sometimes kill animals and eat them. Animals sometimes use our bodies for shelter. Humans sometimes cut the skin of animals to make warmth. This doesn't mean one is better, it just means it is natural for us to use each other. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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I'm sorry I used the wrong word. Sentient is not the word I'm looking for. To correct my previous statement, animals aren't as intelligent as us, so a value system according to brain complexity and social intelligence is the most reasonable option we have. Humans have a moral duty to protect human lives over the lives of animals. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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"Why? If it's just intelligence then why are humans more important?" It's not JUST intelligence. It's our natural moral duty too. Our innate ability to instinctively help others is just something we evolved. "Do you have a morel duty to protect your own race first?" Yeah, but there are some exceptions. This is not one of them though. "Do animals have a morel duty to protect other animals first?" Yeah. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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What ever happened to debating civilly? You're retarded for even calling what she is doing debate. She uses the "her body her right" argument to justify her bias against vaccines, but then uses the exact opposite argument to justify her other bias against mothers having rights over their own body. Dana is a monstrously selfish, completely unreasonable fucking idiot. You can't debate her. You can only point out how and why she's being an idiot. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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STOP CALLING PEOPLE RETARDS! Your claim is completely false, and I suspect purposefully so. You cannot take a statement directed at an individual and then arbitrarily expand it to fit the group of your choice (i.e. people, everyone, all those who disagree with you etc...) That is a logical fallacy. Dana is retarded and that is a fact. I am sorry if you find that fact insulting, but here in the realm of the normal we are not in the business of changing facts to suit those who might be offended by them. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Why not? Are you an insult, to all clown prostitutes? I am disgusted by people who are so lamentably selfish they think it is OK to use diametrically opposing logic to justify two independent biases. What you are is a truly self-centred cunt fully prepared to make a hypocrite out of herself rather than ever think critically about her own beliefs. You're worthless as a human being as far as I'm concerned because you have rejected the capacity to learn and grow. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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That is totally wrong normal people are sissies who do that all the time! Saying "retarded" is offensive to folks with down syndrome! If this Dana person is dumb say dumb bloody well! If she has down syndrome it's just mean of you to insult her and call her dumb! you also called me a retard. Stop being such a jerk! can't you have a real debate about if a unborn baby is a person? if that's what you want. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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That is totally wrong normal people are sissies who do that all the time! No, it is not "totally wrong" to point out that you are taking a direct comment out of its original context and placing it into a completely new one of your own choosing. Saying "retarded" is offensive to folks with down syndrome! Shut the fuck up you retard. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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I would actually listen to him, if he knocked it off.................................... Ahahahaha! You're such a lying witch. You listen to NOBODY Dana. Any time anybody argues with you about anything you specifically tell them that you will never change your mind, so I don't know who you think you're fooling you fat retarded liar. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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using insults is for people who have no reason Another completely false statement. Einstein insulted the intelligence of the entire human species!!!! Did he have "no reason"? Shut the fuck up you retard. You're literally stupid, and you aren't going to fix that by replying to me. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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You debate like a drunken jackass. Go to AA, you senile, bitch. Lol. You're the retard who exposed her own hypocrisy not an hour ago by claiming rights to your own body, while simultaneously denying those same rights to every other woman. You're a fat evil bitch who only cares about herself Dana. Fact. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Literally, no I did not. Literally, yes you did. You want to deny women the rights to their own womb because you are crazy and stupid. But you are also monstrously selfish, so you are perfectly willing to claim rights to your own body in order to reject a vaccine you are paranoid about. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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It's not the woman's body being, aborted, it is the baby's body, being abort. The fetus DEPENDS on the womb for survival. The mother OWNS the womb. What are you not understanding about a woman's right to her own body, you ridiculously thick far right idiot? Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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The women does not have the right, to hack the baby's body, to pieces. 😂 That's right Dana. I like it when you drop the pretense and just expose yourself for what you are. You're a delusional, infantile, spoiled little brat, who simply bends language around her own bigotry. It's a fetus not a baby, as has been evidenced to you dozens of times with a medical dictionary, and nobody hacks anything, least of all the mother, who simply sits there while the operation is performed. Your views belong back in the 12th century you fucking regressive witch. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Yes the fetus is a baby. Oh shut up you fucking pig-thick idiot:- An infant (from the Latin word infans, meaning "unable to speak" or "speechless") is the more formal or specialised synonym for "baby", the very young offspring of a human. In medical contexts, newborn or neonate (from Latin, neonatus, newborn) refers to an infant in the first 28 days after birth; the term applies to premature, full term, and postmature infants; before birth, the term "fetus" is used. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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I just said they had to use birth control, have their tubes removes, or not have sex. You don't have the right to dictate to other people whether or not they can have sex you fascist retard. And birth control is not 100 percent effective, which means in your delusional utopia where we continue overpopulating the Earth past breaking point until it can no longer even sustain us, there will be plenty of women turning up each week to tell you their birth control didn't work. You are such a selfish idiot it really get on my nerves mate. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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I have the right to say whether unborn babies are hacked to death And I have the right to say you are a fucking LIAR who is making up fake horror stories about babies being hacked to death in a pathetic effort to justify your science-denying, medicine-denying cult of stupidity. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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How's it false? There's only one way something can be false you pitifully stupid idiot. It isn't true. what reason have you provided? Gross hypocrisy. Switching your belief structure to accommodate your own personal bias. Denying women the rights to their own womb. Obstinance. Selfishness. you just insult people You just make up your own facts and then try to use them as the basis for an argument. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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1: ok then WHY is it false 2:I never switched my belief structure in anyway and would be interested to hear how you think I did. 3:You do just insult people just look back at all your post in this argument so far! and I've said before and I'll say it again I don't have an opinion on abortion! Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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ok then WHY is it false Same deal. Because it isn't true. I never switched my belief structure You didn't take issue with anything I had said to you, so this is irrelevant. You do just insult people You do just make up your own facts. Indeed, when it is pointed out to you that you are making up your own facts, you act confused and then make up more fake facts. You are doing a very good job of validating my premise that you are a retard. Thanks, I guess. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Name one fact I made up. Are you saying you haven't been reading my replies? I'm a little bit confused about why you're pretending I haven't already explained the fallacies and falsehoods you have used. Ah no, I think I understand. You've literally nowhere else left to go except denial and derailment. 😁 Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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So many times you have accused me off being wrong twisting my beliefs Of. Look buddy, if you are going to let your ego override your intellect then my suggestion is you at least learn the basics of your own native language first. It is very difficult to win a debate when you have the spelling skills of a five year old. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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I would be interested to hear what my other two where. Were. And I pointed them all out to you. In fact I was being lazy so doubtless I missed a few. Look, this isn't going well for you. Stop replying or continue to be made a fool of. Those are your options. I know you've conned yourself into believing you have a third, but you don't. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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You haven't given me a reason!!!!!!!!!! If you have quote yourself on the reason!!! then maybe I'll respect you!!!! unless it's just another insult with no grounds!!!!! Quote me for God's sake on why I am a liar then your argument will be worth something!!! P.S. what are we arguing about again? Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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Here you go, liar:- what reason have you provided? Gross hypocrisy. Switching your belief structure to accommodate your own personal bias. Denying women the rights to their own womb. Obstinance. Selfishness. I understand that you think lying is part of debate, but that is because you are retarded, as I keep explaining. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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I didn't lie quote me bub. then I'll respect you. but you have failed to find a quote from me that proves I am a liar I don't want to hear your claims about what I do unless you can tell me why you think I do them. Saying what you did when I ask for proof is evidence you are just some troll or a nincompoop. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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I didn't lie quote me bub. I quote everything I reply to you hilariously delusional idiot. You have been lying for hours. First you took a personal statement directed at one individual out of its original context and tried to apply it to random groups of your own choosing, then you lied that people who insult others can't use reason, and then you capped it off by claiming falsely I had provided no reason for my harsh words. The fact is that you are too stupid to even realise that you are stupid, so on that note I will be leaving you to argue with yourself, which I'm sure you do regularly anyway. Have a nice night friend. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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You bloody nincompoop if you didn't know that "retard" was considered a derogatory term for a person with down syndrome then you are just dumb. You have provided no reason for your insults and I'm not saying people who insult can't use reason but insulting without grounds is a result of lack of reason. yes you did quote me in every post but your responses where irrelevant. you called me stupid before I even insulted you at all or even stated my opinion! we're not even arguing about anything anymore! for the most part I think this started how I said your use of the word "retard" is offensive to people with down syndrome and apparently you did not know that. Of course you provided no reason! we're not even arguing! what is this even about? Abortion? I told you I have no opinion. aren't we supposed to be debating vaccines? once more I'm not saying people who insult can't use reason but just insulting someone before you even start debating demonstrates a lack of reason. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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It's hurtful to people with down syndrome and uncivil. I'm not speaking to anybody with Down Syndrome you fucking idiot. Stop making up your own facts and stop pretending like you never offend people. Frankly I'm undecided when it comes to abortion the mother has the right to her own body but so does the baby. And stop calling something which is medically either an embryo or a fetus, a baby. That's offensive to everybody who embraces medicine and science. A fetus cannot survive outside the mother's womb. The mother owns that womb. The fetus doesn't. Get it now, or would you like me to provide a small diagram? Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Sometimes when the baby is a boy, the mother would have a dick and two balls, in your opinion And in your opinion when the mother catches a virus her immune system doesn't have the right to kill it. You're a hypocrite Dana. Face facts for once in your life. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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No actually, I am not. The unborn baby is not part of the mother'a body It doesn't matter whether the baby is part of the mother's body you retard. It lives INSIDE the mother's womb. The womb is owned by the mother. It is hers. Understand, idiot? Not yours. Hers. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Vaccines are mostly one-time use so essentially they can last a very long time, virtually forever. Even then, some vaccines are applied with thimerosal to keep it preserved. Vaccines are safe, and we have been using them for almost 300 years. Don't worry, man, vaccines will help you. The government is not mandating the covid vaccine, however, that shouldn't stop you from not taking it, as that will mean you might be at a higher risk of getting it, if not, make the vulnerable at a higher risk. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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1) The most recent vaccines, including the influenza virus are one-time uses and have the innate trait of not being able to expire, in fact, they change twice a year and this is due to the influenza virus mutating. Those that aren't one-time use are treated with thimerosal, which is safe as long as it isn't exposed to fetuses. Thimerosal is not used as much anymore due to one-time use vaccines. 2) Comparing Hitler's followers with the average joe is incoherent. By this logic, you trust anybody that you trust like a god. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
I'm 66 years old in good health and I don't need vaccines against a weak virus. Since the very beginning it was found out that this weak virus only affected very bad to people with bad health conditions and also to smokers. Many healthy people who was infected with the virus didn't even show symptoms. The whole charade of vaccines has been nothing but experimentation, because no vaccine is considered fully effective until years of testing. Labs, doctors and vaccine producers have made good money. I have a receipt from a lab company showing the charges for doctor and lab work for a test made checking if I was infected with the Corona virus. So, even Joe Biden is a liar when he said vaccines "are free". The US government paid millions of millions from tax payers money in order for companies making great profit at the cost of your ignorance, because you indeed were vaccinated without doing first a health assessment to verify if you really need such a vaccine. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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That's your right sweetheart, but I have religious objections, and one medical excemption. The COVID vaccine contains dead fetal and animal products and since I am an antiabortion vegan for religious reasons, I can't get any vaccine. Vaccines also contain thermerosal, a mercury sort of substance that does something with the brain barrier, and can cause Asperger's, or Autism Spectrum Disorder, which happened, to me. I am more than willing to wear a mask and even gloves, wash hands, and take other precautions, in exchange, for not getting, vaccinated. It's all I ask. Thanks. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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Vaccines also contain thermerosal, a mercury sort of substance that does something with the brain barrier, and can cause Asperger's, or Autism Spectrum Disorder, which happened, to me. What a completely ridiculous load of rubbish. I should have guessed you'd be an anti-vaxxer. False: Vaccination can cause autism In 1998, U.K. doctor Andrew Wakefield published a study in The Lancet suggesting that the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine could trigger autism. In the years after, MMR vaccination rates among 2-year-olds in England dropped below 80%. But the claim began to unravel in 2004 after journalist Brian Deer reported undisclosed conflicts of interest: Wakefield had applied for a patent on his own measles vaccine and had received money from a lawyer trying to sue companies making the MMR vaccine. Citing further concerns about ethics and misrepresentation, The Lancet retracted the paper in 2010. Shortly after, the United Kingdom's General Medical Council permanently pulled Wakefield's medical license. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/ Stop rejecting science. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Your liberty is also infringing another's liberty, and which is something that won't hurt you, won't kill you, and more importantly, will save other people and save you if you get vaccinated. You being ignorant is absolutely a trait I wish to never inherit. Furthermore, you claim certain things, so obviously not defending them is something you are responsible for. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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"The main part of such a vaccine is a strand of messenger ribonucleic acid, also known as mRNA. This is around 2,000 biochemical letters of genetic code that carry the instructions to help a person’s immune system recognize the disease - Covid in this case. Pfizer’s vaccine is reported to use 30 micrograms of RNA. At present, the full list of ingredients in the Pfizer vaccine has not been released." The article shows how the COVID vaccine does not have the full list of ingredients disclosed to the public. You can't just assume that based on other vaccines. And also: "This varies on each vaccine but ingredients can include aluminum, squalene oil (found in the flu vaccine), gelatine, emulsifiers, and sorbitol." Most vaccines have these ingredients. It does not have fetal or animal products, but if you are nit-picky and classify RNA as animal products, well you do you. It does not have thimerosal, a preserver for vaccines. (https://www.lbc.co.uk/hot-topics/ "Thimerosal is a mercury-containing organic compound (an organomercurial). Since the 1930s, it has been widely used as a preservative in a number of biological and drug products, including many vaccines, to help prevent potentially life threatening contamination with harmful microbes. The documented antimicrobial properties of thimerosal contribute to the safe use of vaccines in multi-dose vials, and the ability to package certain vaccines, such as those for seasonal and pandemic influenza, in multi-dose vials helps facilitate immunization campaigns in the United States and globally that save lives. However, the use of thimerosal as a preservative in U.S. FDA-licensed vaccines has significantly declined due to reformulation and development of new vaccines presented in single-dose containers. Thimerosal, which is approximately 50% mercury by weight, has been one of the most widely used preservatives in vaccines. It is metabolized or degraded to ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. Ethylmercury is an organomercurial that should be distinguished from methylmercury, a related substance that has been the focus of considerable study. Methylmercury is the type of mercury found in certain kinds of fish. At high exposure levels methylmercury can be toxic to people. In the United States, federal guidelines keep as much methylmercury as possible out of the environment and food, but over a lifetime, everyone is exposed to some methylmercury" This website doesn't mention any side effects of thimerosal, specifically, nothing about Asperger's. Although, you may have got Asperger's and Autism Spectrum Disorder when you were exposed to thimerosal as a fetus. But, thimerosal is generally safe, so take it, it's safe. (FYI, vaccines don't CONTAIN thimerosal, they merely are applied to them) (https://www.healthline.com/health/ (https://www.fda.gov/ Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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And I thought you would give a rebuttal, but no, you give the same half-assed response you always do. At least BurritoLunch isn't as petty as you. Enough with that rant. I would like a source for your claims, especially for aborted fetuses and dead animal products, because that is very alarming. If you aren't gonna change your mind, then you WILL live with the fact that you are very uneducated and not compassionate for actual people who are at risk. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Stop trying to inflict emotional blackmail. It's not working dude. Don't mention your personal dysfunctions to me. And, this is another one of them excuses where you say some sassy bullcrap and then stop responding without giving a proper rebuttal, well good to know you are a dumpster fire of a human being. Cheers. Respond to me when you can do just that. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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That said, why are you so ignorant and sassy? It seems like you either forgot what this site is all about: debating. Not being a jackass. Or you are just trolling. Either way, it's spelled either and not 'ether', take a hike and try to have a nice evening. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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I don't have much education, but I do have knowlege. I'm afraid you don't Dana. You have right wing religious propaganda disguised as knowledge. Knowlege and education, are not synonymous. Just because you are uneducated does not mean you are knowledgeable. In fact there is a strong correlation in the opposite direction. Also noteworthy: Yiur ad homenims. I am mentally disabled, but not retarded. Mental retardation is a form of mental disability. Know the difference. Stop blaming other people for your own ignorance. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Are you done, yet? I will not change my mind, so stop wasting my time. No Dana, I truly don't think you understand how this works. When you come onto a public debate site and openly reject things like science and medicine, YOU ARE THE ONE WASTING PEOPLE'S TIME. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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I'm really surprised how dumb you are YIsRisenLord. How about I punch you with 8 different scientific sources regarding evidence for the theory of Evolution? 1 - (https://www.proof-of-evolution.com/ 2 - (https://www.khanacademy.org/science/ 3 - (https://courses.lumenlearning.com/ 4 - (https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence) 5 - (https://sciencing.com/ 6 - (https://www.livescience.com/ 7 - (https://science.jrank.org/pages/2610/ 8 - (https://www.cliffsnotes.com/ Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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I can't get any vaccine. Not can't, won't. And that is your right. Just as it's everyone else's right to want you to be as far away from them and their kids as possible. Also, no. Just no. Vaccines do NOT cause Autism. It's been proven over and over again that they do not. It has also been proven the man (Andrew Wakefield) had fatally flawed research and he was banned from practicing medicine, not only because his research was funded by lawyers trying to get money from vaccine manufacturers but because he falsified data. Don't cling to fake information to justify the fact that you just don't want to do something. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Prove that autism existed, before, vaccines. Vaccines contain aborted fetal tissue, and dead animal tissue, both of which, are against my religion. Job 3:3, and Proverbs 12:10. I have the right to religious liberty, my body, and privacy. You don't have the right, to know. Cheerio, and have a nice, day. Try, the tea. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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If I was a high school boy, that would really make you look hella stupid right now. But, I'll explain what logical fallacy you were trying to pull off. You were doing the "False causation" logical fallacy, which is, straight forward, false causation. A more in-depth definition is: "The fallacy of false causality is also called "false cause" or called by the Latin term, "post hoc, ergo propter hoc," translated as "after this, therefore because of this." A fallacy of false cause indicates that since one event followed another in time, the first must have caused the second. While a causal relationship might actually exist, the statement does not give enough information to illustrate the truth behind the connection. Such statements jump to a conclusion implying a causal relationship without supporting evidence." (https://classroom.synonym.com/ I really don't feel bad when BurritoLunch curses the hell out of you now, because I understand why. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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We know Autism and the spectrum existed long before vaccines. It was mainly diagnosed as schizophrenia or attributed towards something to do with the devil. There are many many MANY historical figures that we now believe may have been on the spectrum, such as Tesla, Einstein, Jefferson, and several artists both in music and paint. Now with our new and budding understanding of it we are able to diagnose it better. As I said before, you have the right to make poor choices with flawed or downright fake information, but that doesn't mean you have the right to harm or affect others when making them. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Prove that autism existed, before, vaccines. Nobody needs to prove anything to you. You need to prove to us that vaccines cause autism. You make stupid demands of other people instead of meeting your own obligations to support the batshit ideas you have. According to the latest research, autism can be detected in babies as young as two months (BBC), which is before they are even given vaccines. Job 3:3, and Proverbs 12:10. The Bible is not evidence that vaccines cause autism you nutpot. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
It can actually be sooner. We knew the day my daughter was born that she was different even though she looked like a normal infant. She never turned to look at our faces/voices/noises even through her hearing was tested and turned out fine. This was before any shots too. We didn't get the "official" verdict til much later but they do give cue's. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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It can actually be sooner. We knew the day my daughter was born that she was different even though she looked like a normal infant. She never turned to look at our faces/voices/noises even through her hearing was tested and turned out fine. This was before any shots too. We didn't get the "official" verdict til much later but they do give cue's. I've never been diagnosed but it really is uncanny how many boxes I tick. Social problems, obsession with routines, isolation etc... Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Yes you do, need to prove, your claim. That's how logical debating. works. If you make a claim positive or negative, you need to peove it, or you don't have the right, to be believed. A court of law, works the same way, too. Oh, and yes the Bible is evidence. The Bible is the Word of God. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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Yes you do, need to prove, your claim. I didn't claim autism predates vaccines. That was Mint Tea. But I will say I find it truly disturbing that you expect people to prove their claims while you simultaneously reject that same responsibility when dealing with your own claims. Indeed, it is even worse than that, because many times I have disproved your claims, and you simply continue repeating them with the addition of: "and I will never change my mind". You're a truly delusional hypocrite Dana. Truly delusional. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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I have offered evidence about Yeshua That is laughably false. A Youtube video of an ageing Christian preaching the gospel is not evidence of Yeshua. Christianity is not an evidence-based ideology so you are being stupid. The entire point of Christianity is that you are supposed to believe without the evidence (i.e. faith). and what evidence do you need, for centrism? How about voting for the centrist instead of the dude on the extreme far right? How about supporting centrist policies instead of policies on the extreme far right? How about linking media sources in the centre rather than on the extreme far right? Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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There actually is archaeological evidence for Yeshua, go Google, it. AThe videos I provided are valid sources, because they refer to Biblical and other historical sources. You don't have the right to my voting, choices. I don't have to vote for anti Christian anti Israel baby killing, Joe Biden, to prove I am a centrist. In fact, I don't have to prove a fucking thing. You are free to believe whatever, you want. That is not my problem. If you call me anything but a Christian or a centrist, you will be ignored. Go troll, someone else, child. Side: Hell no. I’m not insane
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There actually is archaeological evidence for Yeshua, go Google, it. No there isn't you fat retard, so you Google it. There is no physical or archaeological evidence for Jesus; all existing sources are documentary. The sources for the historical Jesus are mainly Christian writings, such as the gospels and the purported letters of the apostles. All extant sources that mention Jesus were written after his death. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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The videos I provided are valid sources Because you said so? That isn't how it works I'm afraid. because they refer to Biblical and other historical sources. The Bible is not a historical source. It's a book of myths riddled with absurdity and grievous factual error. Modern science has already debunked most of it, so to pretend like the Bible is an accurate record of history is to willfully reject the facts. You don't have the right to my voting, choices. I have every right to expose you when you make claims which are not true, like for example saying that I am trying to control your voting choices, when I am actually pointing out that your voting choices do not align with your claim that you are a centrist. Deliberately misrepresenting what I have said is not a form of argument; it is a form of logical fallacy. In fact, I don't have to prove a fucking thing. So again, less than twenty minutes after you demanded Mint Tea should have to prove her claims, you are now rejecting that same responsibility to prove your own. I think I am done with this conversation because you are just simply such a selfish, delusional, truly disgusting hypocrite who demands other people uphold standards which you are unprepared to uphold yourself. In sum, fuck off and die. You're a horrible, horrible person Dana. You are no Christian, but rather a person who is using Christianity to see what she can get out of it for herself. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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If archaeological evidence suggests that somebody was able to fly, yet science suggests otherwise, archaeological evidence standalone is not enough. Science is much more rigorous and tells more absolute facts, rather than archaeology. Archaeology can be tampered with to tell a different story while science is repeatable no matter where you are/when you are. Although archaeology is considered a social science, like said, using social sciences alone does not fit the criteria. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Yeshua is God and Lord. He can do, what He wants............. Stop invoking God as an answer every time somebody requests you support one of your own arguments. You aren't God, you don't speak for God, and God isn't the one who sits there contradicting himself every day. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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Actually as a Christian, I do speak for God, and I will. We are all fully aware that you pretend to be a Christian for your own selfish reasons, but you are gravely mistaken if you think calling yourself a Christian entitles you to speak for God. Go jump off a cliff please. Side: Certainly. I’m sane
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