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Indeed, it does Nahh.. Trump in '24
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I mentioned before that right wing women HAVE wombs too. Does it bear repeating?

Indeed, it does

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Nahh.. Trump in '24

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Hello ex:

Thing is, they HAD the mid-terms IN the bag.. Then they went all fascist on us..

Poor fellas.

excon

Side: Indeed, it does
LordSauron(63) Disputed
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Fascism has nothing to do with saving lives or abortion. Fascism is the merger of the states and the corporations to control the people through the corporations. An example would be the Democrats controlling what Facebook and Twitter do concerning censorship. Another example would be Democrats threatening corporations that they'd better put policies in place to strongarm employees into getting vaccinated and wearing masks with fear of losing their job otherwise. Nevertheless, the right still allows the left to do as they wish in their own states. Would you care to explain how that is Fascist?

Side: Nahh.. Trump in '24
CASnow(4) Disputed
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Fascism is corporations taking control of the government. The GOP has long been supporters of big business and their control of the government. The corporation have also co-opted the Dem party establishment. The GOP being the minority party has openly sought methods of compromising the voting process which has to be seen as authoritarian leading to dictatorship.

Side: Indeed, it does
LizardKahn(87) Disputed
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they HAD the mid-terms IN the bag

The Democrats have fallen in the polls since abortion was given back to the states. What's your point? That starving people are more worried about food than whether Democrats can kill black babies in their white supremacy centers called Planned Parenthood?

Side: Nahh.. Trump in '24
CASnow(4) Disputed
1 point

Planned Parenthood saves more babies and mothers than anything the GOP does.

Side: Indeed, it does
Gore(147) Disputed
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Then they went all fascist on us..

Hitler allowed abortion to eliminate what he viewed to be inferior races.

thing is, they HAD the mid-terms IN the bag

They still do. $5 gas and double priced food and supplies is the key issue for voters during this election according to polling.

Side: Nahh.. Trump in '24
Gore(147) Disputed
1 point

One big reason why the potential ending of Roe didn't move voters is that it wasn't the top issue. An ABC News/Ipsos poll in early June found that only 12% said abortion was the most important issue to their midterm vote. That ranked well behind the economy, inflation and gasoline combined at 48%.

It's tough to get people to care about something else when they're facing record gasoline prices and inflation.

-CNN

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/06/25/politics/republicans-congress-polling-roe-v-wade/ index.html

Side: Nahh.. Trump in '24
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Yes, it does. womb-men have wombs too. And as you know, right wing women use their wombs to incubate and birth new right wingers. The thing is, they don't just do this haphazardly. They have a whole process, complete with rituals and a special diet, that they go through in order to ensure that their wombs are fertile and that their offspring are healthy and strong. If you're interested in learning more about this fascinating topic, I suggest you do some research on right wing women and their reproductive practices. I guarantee you'll be surprised by what you find.

Side: Indeed, it does
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right wing women HAVE wombs too

And are pro life. That's why they are right wing.

Side: Nahh.. Trump in '24
1 point

Pro lifer here. Baby lives matter. If you women don't want the responsibility, don't get yourselves pregnant than! Otherwise, you are stuck with a baby. Take responsibility or don't take the action of having sex in the first place. This goes for both men and women because it takes one man and one woman together to make babies. Save that talk for after marriage. Work as a team. That's what being in a relationship is all about between a man and a woman. The responsibility of looking after kids is on both the man(father) and the woman (mother) who created him or her. The fact that brainwashed women want to kill babies is not only insane, it goes against their nature. At least the women on the right side still have common sense in tact.

Side: Nahh.. Trump in '24
1 point

Yeah.

They have wombs.

And they're pro life.

And they're OK with that.

Your point?

Side: Nahh.. Trump in '24
excon(17248) Disputed
1 point

They have wombs.

Your point?

Hello hater:

Math tells us that the ENTIRE right wing doesn't have to change their minds - only a few independent women do, and I think enough of them have switched..

Certainly, even a pro-life woman can HATE a party that would REQUIRE a 10 year old girl, impregnated by a rapist, to bear her rapists baby..

Even right wing women see the inhumanity of that.

excon

Side: Indeed, it does
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Math tells us that the ENTIRE right wing doesn't have to change their minds - only a few independent women do, and I think enough of them have switched.

You almost have a valid point, but I still don't know what position you're trying to take here. Enough of them have switched to what? To vote Democrat? That's ludicrous. To be pro choice? Unlikely. For abortion to be safe, legal and rare? That's an extremely tentative maybe.

Here's the problem: almost nobody has any issue with a ten year old girl raped by her father and locked in her basement until her third trimester from aborting a fetus to save her own life that is malformed and won't survive anyway. You want to include provisions in the law to protect abortions under extreme circumstances, very few people are going to try to stop you. That does not and will never apply to the overwhelming majority of abortions which are performed for the sake of convenience.

Now, I have my own opinions on the morality of abortion, opinions which I deliberately consider irrelevant. However, no consensus will ever be reached on this issue because the two sides are barely speaking the same fucking language. If you're pro life, you view a fetus as an independent human with all implied rights that we do. If you're pro choice, you view the rights of the mother as superseding that of the fetus. Both sides have their merits. But neither side is going to bend from their (valid) individual moral values.

But.

The only people fooled by this disingenuous fallback argument that you're a monster if you don't support abortion in extreme circumstances, and therefore you should support abortions in the 99% of cases where the abortion is elective, are the people spouting this nonsense. Those of us in the middle of the spectrum of the argument can see your dishonesty and it's not winning you political points.

Side: Indeed, it does