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I have advice. I do not have advice.
Debate Score:59
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I need advice.

I believe that life begins at implantation, but I'm not sure. Is it okay for me to believe this?

I have advice.

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I do not have advice.

Side Score: 29

I think trying to figure out when life begins is looking at the wrong thing when it comes to abortion. I think the thing we should be looking at is why is terminating a life wrong? My personal opinion is because it causes pain and emotional distress to the victim and their loved ones. Their are a few other minor reasons, but I think those are the big ones.

So the next question we need to ask is does abortion cause pain or emotional distress to an unborn fetus? It depends on the stage of development. Recent studies say that fetuses don't feel pain until after 24 weeks of age. I had a hard time finding much information on emotional development, but the few articles I found said emotions didn't develop until the last trimester. 88% of abortions occur before the end of the first trimester, long before the fetus is able to feel pain, emotions, or exist independently of the mother. Less than two percent of abortions occur after 20 weeks.

Is terminating the life of someone who is brain dead wrong? If it's not, then why is terminating the life of an unborn fetus that is incapable of feeling pain or emotion wrong?

The other argument I often hear is that by aborting a fetus you are destroying their future potential. This argument fails to consider that their future potential could be bad. They might become a drug dealer, a child molester, or even the next Hitler. So, if you are going to factor in future potential you can't just look at the good potential and ignore the bad. If future potential is a factor, then that same factor needs to be considered in other issues. For example, if a parent doesn't buy their kid any crayons, they may have just destroyed that child's future potential to become a great artist. You also need to consider that having an unplanned child could destroy the future potential of the mother.

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PattyPlatano(96) Disputed
1 point

Life begins at birth. Fact. My body my rights my choice.

Side: I do not have advice.

Maybe "Life" is a bit too generic a term - could include virus, bacteria, plant, etc. etc.

Maybe the question is when does human life begin? consciousness/awareness/pain?

Also note, when life begins is not necessarily even a relevant question in terms of abortion, etc.

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Implantation? Like when a man's sperm enters into a woman?

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flewk(1193) Clarified
2 points

Implantation is when the zygote implants itself into the uterine wall.

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Starchild123(832) Clarified
2 points

Thank you, I appreciate it.

Side: I have advice.
2 points

Iplantation is when the fertilized egg attaches to the mother. .

Side: I have advice.
2 points

You can believe whatever you want.

This is a fairly ambiguous topic, so there is no right answer.

Side: I have advice.
3 points

Thank you. I support your freedom of belief too. .

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nobodyknows(745) Clarified
2 points

Does that mean you would support someone's freedom to choose when an abortion is ok?

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PattyPlatano(96) Disputed
1 point

You are a hypocrite. If you pardon the pun ;) I have the right to choose whether to have an abortion or not. I do have a freedom of belief and a right to choose if I want to abort the fetus or not. You can't control what I believe or what I do with my body. First you rape and kill and now this. Typical prolifer.

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2 points

I believe life begins at first glance

;)

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Sitar(3680) Clarified
2 points

So you believe that life begins at birth? .

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nobodyknows(745) Clarified
2 points

Well the joke was when a guy sees a girl and is aroused, that is when life begins. Unfortunately, I did not see the ambiguity. :/

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Well, it's always ok to have your beliefs, it's what actions you take based on them that matter more. If you don't feel as though your belief is right, then you're allowed to say "I'm not sure" or "I'm still figuring it out." People on the other side of the issue will hope that you come to a new conclusion, but as there is not much clarity on what objective morality would be, you have to stick with what you believe. Think about why you believe that. If you have a clear answer that makes sense to you, then stick with it. If not, you can change your opinion, or simply say you aren't positive what to believe.

Side: I have advice.
1 point

What you believe in is logical...and you can believe whatever you wish to believe, you have the right to that after all. So my advice for you is to stay confident in what you believe in, everyone has an opinion and ways to beliefs :)

Side: I have advice.
2 points

I think "life" begins with conception. But that doesn't mean I support concepts of abortion is murder or anything like that. Therefore I have no advice.

Side: I do not have advice.
2 points

Fair enough. Thank you for responding. What do you mean by conception? Fertilization? At what point do you believe that abortion should be restricted?

Side: I do not have advice.
2 points

Why restrict abortion? Every individual has a certain level of comfort on the matter. You don't have to justify your level of comfort to anyone. They may ask for links, but ignore then. State your position and move on. Is there a possibility you'll be wrong? Yeah, but there's also a possibility you'll be right and a possibility that it just doesn't matter. Either way, just base your decision on the available information and know that's the best you can do.

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addltd(5143) Clarified
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Yes, Fertilization = conception in my thinking. Implantation is a later stage. But I think it is important to split the discussion between timing and reasons why. Timing really doesn't matter because if you believe that the fertilized egg is going to grow into a live human being then at any point after fertilization you are killing a human being. I am more concerned about the why because I believe a woman should have a right to choose what to do with her own body. But, I believe that she needs to strongly consider the why (rape, her own health, genetic issues with the pre-born, etc.).

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2 points

Hi

I believe that "life" begins when an organism is able to sustain itself.

A child recieves oxygen from its mother via amniotic fluid. The lungs are deflated until birth so as soon as the child is born it has to breathe on its own. That I believe is the moment when "life" begins because if we did not breathe then there would be no life

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