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GOD still exist. Will religious shut up !!!
Debate Score:130
Arguments:91
Total Votes:139
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I was a catholic once,thankfully now I am an atheist !

 I was a catholic once,but now thankfully I am an atheist !

I want to celebrate this event !

how stupid can any religion be !

to believe such nonsense ....

How arrogant religious people are ...

Ha Ha Ha ...

GOD still exist.

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Will religious shut up !!!

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5 points

Why should religious people shut up, when you never do?

Atheism isn't proved to be the absolute truth. You have no proof that religious Gods don't exist.

So when you give us the evidence, proving 100% that there is no chance that there is a God - I promise you I will shut up and join your club.

How about we all just accept, that we believe differently, and let each other believe what we each do .. and just get along with our crappy lives ?!?!?!

Atheists brag about how free they are - but from my experience, you're obsessed with turning the world into nonbelievers, that you have no freedom at all.

I am PROUD to say, that I congratulate you that you've become atheistic. I think it is AWESOME that you believe what you do.

But what makes me disrespect you is that you call others who don't believe what you do arrogant - how arrogant is that?

Don't tell others to shut up when you have nothing better to say.

Side: GOD still exist.
4 points

Atheism isn't proved to be the absolute truth. You have no proof that religious Gods don't exist.

He doesn't need proof that they don't exist, for how can you prove the non existence of something? Fairies, demons, werewolves, vampires, unicorns, and the chupacabra have not been proven to not exist, why don't we believe in them as well?

It is the job of religious people to demonstrate to other people that god exists. Not the non believers job to prove god does not exist.

So when you give us the evidence, proving 100% that there is no chance that there is a God - I promise you I will shut up and join your club.

By that reasoning, you believe in everything I listed above. This is a childish position.

How about we all just accept, that we believe differently, and let each other believe what we each do .. and just get along with our crappy lives ?!?!?!

Because religious people want to legislate their religious beliefs or stall the progress of science. Abortion, gay marriage, creationism taught in schools, stem cell research being halted, etc.

But what makes me disrespect you is that you call others who don't believe what you do arrogant - how arrogant is that?

I don't necessarily agree with his statement, but I do find it arrogant when religious people make random remarks about god's existence, but if I ever were to make a remark about god's non existence I would be met with hostility and/or criticism for offending other's beliefs. For some reason if they shout god exists or imply it, I must keep quiet. But if I say my belief that god does not exist, I must not say such offensive statements. This is hypocrisy.

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3 points

"I don't necessarily agree with his statement, but I do find it arrogant when religious people make random remarks about god's existence, but if I ever were to make a remark about god's non existence I would be met with hostility and/or criticism for offending other's beliefs. For some reason if they shout god exists or imply it, I must keep quiet. But if I say my belief that god does not exist, I must not say such offensive statements. This is hypocrisy"

Not all religious people are like that. I may be catholic, be i respect other people's right to their own beliefs. I just get offended when people say i am wrong to believe in religion because of a lack of evidence. It is called faith for a faith for a reason, we believe it with or without scientific evidence.

I will agree with you tough that religion should not be involved in government as it may lead to people losing some of their own inherent personal freedoms.

Side: GOD still exist.
Lynaldea(1231) Disputed
2 points

Religious people do provide sufficient evidence to non believers that their god exists however the non believers say it's not good enough. So at the same time the non believers ask the believers to provide evidence, and they do, they get turned down, as if the mission of the believer is to solely give the non believer the evidence they desire.

It's like your asking for evidence, receiving it, and throwing it back in the faces of the believers saying "it's not enough".

What is enough for you non believers? OTHER THAN holding the hand of their X, Y, Z god and seeing them physically.

Side: GOD still exist.
giverupper(247) Disputed
2 points

He doesn't need proof that they don't exist, for how can you prove the non existence of something? Fairies, demons, werewolves, vampires, unicorns, and the chupacabra have not been proven to not exist, why don't we believe in them as well?

Some might believe in those things, and why bother even tell them it doesn't exist? How come you tell me a unicorn doesn't exist when you have no proof supporting your statement ?

It is the job of religious people to demonstrate to other people that god exists. Not the non believers job to prove god does not exist.

That is probably the dumbest thing I've heard for a long time.

What your telling me here is, that you don't need proof for your belief, but I do. With that attitude no one is going to take you seriously.

By that reasoning, you believe in everything I listed above. This is a childish position.

No I don't believe in everything above. I don't feel the existence of unicorns and werewolfs. I no what you're gonna reply to that one, you aren't the first atheist I've debated with.

I know you're gonna make fun of that we feel God's existence .. and just go ahead. I'm not even gonna listen, because I don't care how stupid my faith sounds to you, all I care about is that I believe.. what bothers me is that others don't respect my belief. Because why shouldn't they? I respect every religion on this earth, I might think that islamic people are kinda crazy but still .. I respect their belief.

I have never given anyone a reason to hate my religious views.

Because religious people want to legislate their religious beliefs or stall the progress of science. Abortion, gay marriage, creationism taught in schools, stem cell research being halted, etc.

I support everything that is proven to be true. Evolution f.ex.

I support gay marriage, I don't believe in crationism.

But one of the things of the list I don't support is abortion, but that has nothing to do with my belief. I just think it's wrong of many other reasons besides my religion.

I don't necessarily agree with his statement, but I do find it arrogant when religious people make random remarks about god's existence, but if I ever were to make a remark about god's non existence I would be met with hostility and/or criticism for offending other's beliefs. For some reason if they shout god exists or imply it, I must keep quiet. But if I say my belief that god does not exist, I must not say such offensive statements. This is hypocrisy.

I agree with you. I hate when people mock my religious vies, because personally I haven't done anything that could make you hate my religion.

I've heard from many, that religion is the cause of war and other horrible events, but I have never started war but some have I know. But you can't blame the religion for something a group of people did.

Side: GOD still exist.
Melanin(84) Disputed
1 point

It's funny that you won't take your own advice and provide proof that God exists. I do not think that it is impossible that a god exists, but I don't believe in God just because I feel like it, or it's better for me. What if people did that with everything? Just believed things without adequate proof? There are so many instances where that can hurt others. And sometimes, in Christianity, it does. Venting about religious people not shutting up doesn't mean that you never shut up about religious people, so saying that she doesn't shut up either means nothing here. Fallacy. You missed the point when she called them arrogant. It wasn't about her not believing what they believe. It was about them preaching at others and being so sure that their god exists, that they're right. That's where the arrogance is.

Maybe she does have something better to say. It would take a lot more space to explain her life story though.

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giverupper(247) Disputed
1 point

It's funny that you won't take your own advice and provide proof that God exists.

What I meant was, that as soon as atheists HAVE provided proof that God doesn't exists, I will believe it.

But I have never tried to get atheists to believe in God. All I want is respect.

I don't like when people call my belief arrogant without realising how arrogant they are.

Atheists try to turn me into a nonbeliever - to do so they need proof.

I am NOT trying to make atheists into believers, so I don't need to prove anything.

It wasn't about her not believing what they believe. It was about them preaching at others and being so sure that their god exists, that they're right. That's where the arrogance is.

I get that, and I agree - but many atheists are just the same. They are so sure that there isn't a God .. but whatever.

I am a little agnostic, because I believe I CAN be wrong .. therefore I just hate people calling me arrogant.

Maybe she does have something better to say. It would take a lot more space to explain her life story though.

Yeah but just telling people to shut up doesn't explain it very well does it?

Side: GOD still exist.
4 points

How about you stop talking shit about us we will stop talking to you and we live on in tolerance how about just trying that

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2 points

AGREED, that is very true and i hope it can happen in the future.

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Religious people should shut up, but you should should shut up because no one really cares that you were catholic at one time.

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Lynaldea(1231) Disputed
0 points

Sorry G Dizzle, I will not shut up. Oh wait, that's right I'm more spiritual, so should spiritual people shut up too? Nah, I'm good.

No one really cares what you are, so I supposed it's a win win for both sides. ;)

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1 point

Alright L homie, I really don't care about your spirituality, I just get annoyed by all these "LOOK AT ME" type debates.

Side: GOD still exist.

I find it ironic that you called people with religion arrogant. That itself is one of the most arrogant things i have heard on this site to date. Just because you believe something not to be true, doesn't mean that the people who still believe are wrong to do so.

Side: GOD still exist.
Lynaldea(1231) Disputed
1 point

A fucking men!

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AndyGum(24) Disputed
1 point

That is not generally true some of us just don't believe in god, we don't want to convert you we just want facts and to be honest the bible kind of hard to believe, and athiests, religious people are not arragent they are just trying to defend their religion from our countless questions.

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1 point

how stupid can any religion be !

to believe such nonsense ....

How arrogant religious people are ...

I was not talking about all atheists. I understand that they have a right to question God's existence, and i do not judge them for it.

My argument was directed towards the creator of this debate who shows in the quote above his complete disregard for other people's beliefs. That is what i found offensive.

Side: GOD still exist.
Melanin(84) Disputed
1 point

If that's one of the most arrogant things you've heard, you haven't heard anything arrogant at all. You are right. Just because someone doesn't believe something, doesn't mean they're right. They need to have reasons for saying what they do and adequate support. I'm sure that you, as a religious person, think atheists are wrong, no? And you think that with no good reasons to be so sure that YOUR god exists, and not everyone else's god, or everyone else's non-god. That's what's arrogant about it.

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1 point

There is definitely some great opinions on both side but i'm going to have to go with God still exists. People believe in god because it gives them something to hope for, someone to talk to when they are alone. Someone they can ask for help, or mercy because they want to be the best person that they can be. He lives in our dreams and our hearts! To become an atheist is ones on choice but if they can't be quiet about it why should we? Why can't we agree to disagree that we both have different opinions? One of my best friends is an atheist. Why should what we believe in matter in how we view one another?

Side: GOD still exist.
2 points

People believe in god because it gives them something to hope for, someone to talk to when they are alone. Someone they can ask for help, or mercy because they want to be the best person that they can be. He lives in our dreams and our hearts!

But don't you care about whether your beliefs are true? Belief in God is just wishful thinking, it is not based on credible evidence.

To become an atheist is ones on choice but if they can't be quiet about it why should we?

That's because the atheist was not the first one to shout his non belief to the world. It was the believer who first shouted his belief to the world.

Why should what we believe in matter in how we view one another?

It shouldn't. That's just how the majority of religious people view atheists, typically with some negative view. Atheists do the same thing to religious people as well, but seeing as how religious people VASTLY outnumber atheists, the religious people do it more.

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1 point

Yeah, I agree. People don't randomly go "I don't believe in this god!" It's a response to other people, even if they are the first to write it. If there was no talk of it anymore and everyone noticed this, no one would be randomly talking about atheism.

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1 point

You shouldn't believe something just because it helps you to. What about the truth, or what seems most likely? You don't need to force yourself to believe in god to have someone to talk to, or something to hope for. That's the thing. He only lives in your dreams and hearts. Maybe you can create your own little god of support, in your own heart, without declaring him to be real? If you need hope of an afterlife, people who don't even believe in god believe this because of their experiences, first hand. :). I do.

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1 point

You declare, without any evidence, that God is not real. There are no direct indicators to the validity of either position. However, indirect indicators point heavily to God, or some variant on the concept to exist. How, for example were proteins spontaneously formed? How did things such as bacterial flagellum evolve without some guidance? How did the universe it self start? Where did the super dense particle of the big bang come from? These must be adressed before God is dismissed completely.

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1 point

God still exist.But good for you i won't judge you're decision to be an atheist also not all religious people brag only a few and a lot will be judged.

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God exists in people who believe in him. He may not be understood in many ways but us Catholics understand his actions. I am not hindering anyone in their beliefs but I just want to say that religion is not entirely a hindrance to the world as many people think. It gives us a guiding principle to live in a society of peace. I am not saying that all Atheists are bad and all Christians are good. I am just saying that people should be given the right to believe who they want to believe without any evidences whatsoever. We may look foolish to others but that foremost is what makes us happy. People believe in God because they believe they can be happy with him in the end. Anyone who doe not believe in him are free to do so. We are given choices in life. Every Christian and Atheist know of this. It is our time here on earth is what makes us right. If we can live in a just society then why should we make each other suffer just because of their beliefs? Let us together find our happiness here on earth and let us believe what we want to believe.

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1 point

I dont believe atheists always try to apply the statutes of the Bible to see if God exists. To be frank, one can you use more active approaches to prove the existense of God or not, its quite similar to what I do. I fast and pray and it does work. I just want everyone to know that the Christian version of God expects many of us to seek his face, and I dont just mean going to church on Sunday and sitting at the front of the podium. I literally mean to SEEK HIS FACE!!! If you really car you should try it.Know God for yourself and stop listening to pastors and evangelists.

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Is this a real debate? It seems more like a rant.

By the way, congratulations on being an atheist. Round of applause.

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3 points

Religious people invent apologetics and theology to teach and brainwashing little kid up !!

if you are truly believe in it,then you are totally unintellectual.

to trust god ?

you will not have any chance to get that !

not until you die.......you will realize that all of this church things just how emptiness it is ....and life is going to end without reaching to the other side !

you will laugh ....how stupid you are.

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Congratulations on making the crossover to logical, rational, and evidence based thought processes.

I used to be a Catholic as well until early 2011 perhaps late 2010, when I went through a period of agnosticism, then sometime later agnostic atheism. Although, I usually just shorten it to atheism.

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2 points

Ummm... what are we debating here?

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2 points

Religion is the world's biggest SCAM !

Religious people are too hypocrite ! they don't work on helping the society any better....

people today are suffering and keep suffering all their life !

If religion is true,then I don't think that pointless suffering and deceiving occur on earth.

So, shut up to these people !

Shut up ....GOD inventor.

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1 point

This isn't really the best way to start off expressing your newfound atheism.

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1 point

I was a catholic once,but now thankfully I am an atheist !

Many many horror movies will be ruined for you

I want to celebrate this event !

lets party

how stupid can any religion be !

Oddly it's not a question of intelligence

to believe such nonsense ....

Well most of us believed it at some point

How arrogant religious people are ...

It's not going to be like a political party is it?

Ha Ha Ha ...

Eh? where's my coat?

Welcome to the cold harsh reality of Atheism.

The truth hurts, well sometimes :-)

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I believe we can come to a mutual agreement eventhough i am atiast i do not go shouting my ideas to the world, but unlike me my dad is a jerk about it, he does not like that i am athiest and the rest of the family is catholic and he just is a jerk praying in front of me mockingly and lecturing why god is real and how his religion is great and how we could have evolved frome monkeys and WILL YOU JUST SHUT UP ABOUT YOUR GOD DAMN RELIGION.

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he does not like that i am athiest and the rest of the family is catholic and he just is a jerk praying in front of me mockingly and lecturing why god is real and how his religion is great and how we could have evolved frome monkeys

Study up on some of the arguments he proposes in favor of god, and then refute them with your metaphorical sniper rifle. Religious people tend to repeat the same nonsense, shouldn't be hard to find a refutation for your dad's arguments.

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Believe in GOD is the same sense of purpose as we are going to see a movie, or reading a novel

which is to escape temporally from reality.

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