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Fair Point But He's The Best!!
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If Americans Aren't Stupid Then How Did Trump Ever Manage To Become President?

The guy has what, 30 or 40 different women (and children) who have accused him of sexual impropriety?

At the time he was inaugurated he was the defendant or co-defendant in around 70 different lawsuits.

But he's gonna drain the swamp, right guys? 😆

You cannot explain Trump's presidency in any other terms other than the result of mass propaganda. The worst kind of propaganda in fact. Fascist propaganda. The type which tries to turn physical reality upside down. Fascist propaganda isn't about exaggerating the truth. It's about making up a whole new truth.


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But He's The Best!!

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Just like any other country, America has its layer of stupid. Actually, it was a smear campaign against Hillary, combined with a hate campaign against a black President (the last President we had), that convinced a portion of the country to vote for a criminal. I would remind people that Trump only won a Gerrymandered "Electoral College", he LOST the popular vote by over 3,000,000 votes. That shows that the large majority of Americans didn't want Trump to be acting president, which is what he was.

This time, though the numbers in favor of the idiot rose, the numbers of SANE Americans rose even further! This time to nearly 8,000,000, PLUS, he DID NOT EVEN WIN THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE!

No. Americans, by a majority, are NOT stupid! Trump managed to become President through brainwashing and "false news" from right-wing media. I hope we have learned a lesson. I hope Constitutional changes will be made that will not allow this "stupidity" that was sold TO the stupid among "U.S." to happen again. The guilty MUST be punished. The new President doesn't have to have a thing to do with it, the Justice Department, the FBI and other security agencies and STATE agencies can lock these bastards up!

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BurritoLunch(6607) Clarified
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Just like any other country, America has its layer of stupid.

Going to have to disagree with that I'm afraid. The US isn't like any other country I've ever been to. Even the idiots in Europe don't reject things like climate science, free healthcare or the dangers of guns. In America, there are far more stupid people per capita than any other country, and they are far more stupid than they are anywhere else.

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AlofRI(3263) Clarified
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And you have every right to YOUR opinion. Being YOUR opinion doesn't necessarily mean that it is the correct one.

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American are just in majority uneducated and lack basic critical thinking. Most are just trying to survive.

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American are just in majority uneducated and lack basic critical thinking. Most are just trying to survive.

Sure, but I think it is probably a little more sinister than that. Remember there was a "Cold War" against Bolshevism for many decades? Well, it was during that period that America first began to manufacture and distribute ideological propaganda. Perhaps it began with the best intentions, but I think once power learned how effectively it could manipulate public opinion it not only continued, but crept into all other aspects of American life.

What we have to ask ourselves is why? Why do Americans lack critical thinking skills? And I think the answer can be found in the fact that people with critical thinking skills are significantly less likely to be manipulated by propaganda and/or consumer advertising. Critical thinking skills are viewed as detrimental to the prosperity of the American economy.

Side: Fair Point
Warlight(1) Banned
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If Germans aren't stupid, how did Hitler ever assume authoritarian dictatorship over their souls and force them to holler "Heil Hitler!" as a form of communication?

If the British aren't stupid, how did they come to be ruled by King Henry the Eighth? Or King James? Or every other king and queen in British history? Then, after all of that they elected Margaret Thatcher as prime minister so they couldn't even do Democracy right.

If the French aren't stupid, how did they come to be ruled by overtly nitwitted, greedy fat kings for centuries?

If the Russians aren't stupid, how did they manage to let a blundering old sado masochistic coot named Joseph Stalin rule their lives for 30 years?

If Bahrain, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Omen, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, UAE, Yemen, ...etc aren't all stupid, why were they once ruled by a petulant moron named Muhammad?

If the Chinese aren't stupid, how did an entire region called Taiping follow a guy named Hong for claiming to be the brother of Jesus that led to their mass deaths in war with the Qing Dynasty? How did they come to be ruled by the biggest sado masochistic, worst leader in history Mao Zedong?

The answer is obviously because Americans come from even more, insanely more stupid ancestors.

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If Germans aren't stupid, how did Hitler ever assume authoritarian dictatorship over their souls and force them to holler "Heil Hitler!"

Oh, hi there Bronto!!! 😆

Well, in defence of the Germans, nobody had ever experienced fascism before and it was a brand new ideology. Americans don't have that excuse I'm afraid. Perhaps you'd like to explain for us why you spent four years here on hundreds of puppet accounts trying to convince us to vote for a fascist. Let's perhaps begin there.

And of course nobody was forced to holler Heil Hitler. That isn't how fascism works. People willingly hollered Heil Hitler and voted him into power just like people willingly hollered Make America Great Again and voted Trump into power.

If you can't even remain honest for one single paragraph then how do you even hold conversations with people in real life?

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Jace(5164) Disputed
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nobody had ever experienced fascism before

roflmaod

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If the British aren't stupid

Blah, blah, blah, Bronto.

From quickly scanning your (ahem) "examples" I instantly found the common denominator. Everything you referenced is historical. You are attempting to justify the stupidity of Americans in the present day by grossly distorting things which happened in the past, and then pretending that the Chinese having a dictator two millennia ago somehow makes it OK for Americans to vote against their own best interests in the present.

I'm going to have to ban you I'm afraid, because you're just stupid. Lol. 😆 I mean, if you want to argue that I'm wrong then that's one thing, but you can't seriously expect to defend the argument that the Chinese were stupid therefore it's my right to be stupid too!!!

Side: Fair Point