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If God Doesn't Exist, Then Who/What Shall We Say Created The Earth.....

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3 points

No person created the earth. It was the product of accretion after our sun's formation from a nebula.

Side: Gravity
mnssid(2) Disputed
3 points

And who/what create the sun? It is just create by itself?

Side: Gravity
aveskde(1935) Disputed
3 points

And who/what create the sun? It is just create by itself?

Gravity. Objects with mass are drawn together. Hydrogen gas in space will form a star given sufficient quantity, density, and time.

Side: Gravity
sop4life603(48) Disputed
2 points

Can you prove that? because after all these years no one has been able to prove that.

Side: God created the earth
aveskde(1935) Disputed
4 points

Can you prove that? because after all these years no one has been able to prove that.

Protoplanetary disk

Side: Gravity
protazoa(427) Disputed
2 points

Can you prove the existence of G-d?

At least scientific theories have irrefutable evidence.

Side: Gravity
2 points

specifically, planetesimal bits formed from the nebulous residue, these planetesimals then were attracted to each other to form the earth (i.e. a crystal reaching critical mass in solution)

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2010AGUFM.V53A2229K

Side: Gravity
3 points

God does exist. Look around, how can you say he doesnt. look at rthe intricate designs ariound you and then say he doesnt exist, then after you say it, try to prove it. you'll fail.

Side: God created the earth
ryuukyuzo(641) Disputed
3 points

Looked around, he doesn't exist. I stand behind science as proof.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

Try to prove your god exists, you'll fail. They always do. ;)

Side: Gravity
sop4life603(48) Disputed
2 points

First using wiki is unreliable so there is no point in even looking at that. But i will anyways.

Second,

Why is overwhelming evidence never enough.

http://www.biblemagazine.com/magazine/vol-9/issue-4/evidence.html

http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

http://toptenproofs.com/article_godsexistence.php

Side: God created the earth
sop4life603(48) Disputed
2 points

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

none of this proves that evolution is real so that was pointless.

"Try to prove your god exists, you'll fail. They always do. ;)"

They dont fail, you just ignore the facts.

Side: God created the earth
3 points

NOBODY.

Science has many theories, like the big bang theory. No being could possibly be powerful enough to create the world.

Side: NO FREAKING ONE
3 points

The earth is a cooling star. That would explain why the core is magma. Just like a match that is going out....you feel the heat and see the embers ,but the top turns into a crust.

You add water to the equation and you get a plethora of life just like a small pond or puddle. Except instead of bacteria or germs you get people and animals.

Side: Cooling star most likely
2 points

God does exist because that is the ultimate solution whether u are religious or atheist. atheists are people running in circles. while religious people actually try and find god's glory to satisfy their creator which is the creator of the good and bad. the reason why there is good and bad is so they reflect off of each other. good can look at bad and say hmm... do i wanna have that (bad) fun? ... and bad can look at good and be like hmm...is this really fun or is that (good) better for my health... Its been proven by sociologists that its mans nature to be religious. Even if you don't worship god and believe in just having fun..you have gods (plural) of your own within this vicinity and those are things that you can see because eyes tell lies. Worldly gods (which are annoying to the real god who created the world) are such as money and mimicking god (which is worshiping the will to be powerful)

Side: Cooling star most likely
aveskde(1935) Disputed
5 points

God does exist because that is the ultimate solution whether u are religious or atheist. atheists are people running in circles. while religious people actually try and find god's glory to satisfy their creator which is the creator of the good and bad.

God is unnecessary complexity added to a problem, which solves nothing. God doesn't fit with what we know about our universe.

Side: Cooling star most likely
sierraxy(59) Disputed
4 points

LOOK.

I WOULD JUST LOVE TO SEE ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW GOD CAN BE PROVEN TO EXIST. THE BIBLE, FOR ALL WE KNOW, COULD OF JUST BEEN WRITEN BY A COUPLE OF DRUNK BORED GUYS FROM 800 BCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

Side: NO FREAKING ONE
Hisangel(28) Disputed
1 point

Look at a newborn babies face, look around you. Look at the giraffe for example? That animal did not just evolve, it was designed by a CREATOR and that creator was GOD.

Side: NO FREAKING ONE
angelmew(81) Disputed
3 points

"The creator of good or bad". Good or bad is a human perception, no real god would apply a stigma to their own creations as it , in theory, would be like punishing themselves. That is self-defeating in the reason for which to create life in the first place.

"Worldly gods (which are annoying to the real god who created the world) are such as money and mimicking god (which is worshiping the will to be powerful)"

You can't write of which you do not know. What do you know of what annoys the "real" god. You are only speculating based of your perception.

Side: Cooling star most likely
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
2 points

You seem to fundamentally misunderstand the psychology of an atheist.

One is no more or less likely, to be either good or bad, based on their belief of one particular myth or another, or no myth at all.

Side: Cooling star most likely
2 points

I don't try to suggest that I know who created the Earth. Although, the creation of the Earth seems like an easy question to answer when it comes to scientific research. I mean, no one has an exact answer just yet, but we know a shit load about the Earth. We live right on it. We may, or may not, discover the true origin of the Earth while we're still on it.

I think a better question for you Theists would be "who created the Universe". After all, as far as we know, the Universe IS everything. If there is no deity or supernatural being, who or what created everything? Saying that its always been here is just as irrational as saying that an all powerful being created it.

The secrets of the Universe may never be answered. Hell, maybe there are no answers. Maybe as human beings we just have to believe that there is logic behind the very nature of existence, when, in fact, there isn't. Who knows; I don't. And I'm going to take an educated guess and presume that none of you theists actually know for sure, either. You just believe.

Traditionally, I would be considered an Atheist or Agnostic because I don't accept that answer. But i've been falling further and further into the belief that there is no answer. That existence, itself, isn't illogical yet still happening. I don't know what that makes me.

Side: iDK
2 points

If I accept your logical premise, We would not be referring to a "who." The discussion would be framed in terms of sequences of recorded events and probably wouldn't assume that anything has a clearly distinct and definable beginning. Too simplistic an understanding of the word beginning prevents deeper and deeper understandings of causality, and the interrelated nature of everything.

The people who speak in certitudes on the matter (how the earth or the universe came to be), speak untruthfully.

People who are dishonest about where their understanding ends, are generally trusted too much. Keep company with the curious and you will learn, keep company with the knowledgeable and you might make a nice parrot someday.

Side: liars pretend to know
2 points

If God Doesn't Exist, Then Who Shall We Say Created The Earth.....

Maybe the question should be "what created the earth" then I could answer your question.

Side: liars pretend to know
1 point

aybe the question should be "what created the earth" then I could answer your question.

okay.... I did it!!! now answer the question.......

If God Doesn't Exist, Then Who Shall We Say Created The Earth.....

Side: liars pretend to know
Bohemian(3860) Disputed
2 points

mitgag, I don't think you understand what I'm saying. It's a question of 'what' not 'whom'. Why do you assume a person or being must be responsible in the very question you ask?

Side: liars pretend to know
2 points

God exists but proves of his existence can not be sought in things which have physical explanation. I would like to seek the role of god in chances. when everything is against you and every odd is going wrong way but finally things happened to be ending in your favor then you need to thank some immeasurable hidden support of supreme energy that is defined by luck, i say it is god. And about earth it was created by big bang and since we have limitations about observing the things before big bang so we can not explain it right now.

Side: God exists but as well as physics
2 points

I'm a catholic, though my philosophies are different. As for "who" created the earth, I say no one did, I don't believe God created the Earth and living beings inside of it. I believe physics did.

The people who say "but the bible states that God did" misinterpret the readings. Those people must understand that the Bible is not written, per say.. "directly". It's a great work of literature that contains complex metaphors, hidden meanings and similes, so the average person who reads,stereotypes, and doesn't give thought to what they just read, wont get it or misunderstand.

God gave us a brain for a reason, to use it.

Therefore I believe that the earth was created based on the scientific response of: "The Earth was formed 4.6 billion years ago from the same nebula cloud of gas and dust that the Sun and the eight other planets were formed."

Side: God exists but as well as physics
2 points

Dust particles orbiting around the sun crashing into each other forming a round object.

Side: God exists but as well as physics
1 point

God doeson't exist, but.... I don't know who created the earth.

but i enjoyed this myth. so i'll let you talk about it.

In china, Mouse bit off the ground. so some gases came out from the earth.

and the gases make people. It's just a myth. but i enjoyed about it at first.

Side: God exists but as well as physics
1 point

god does not exist.

the world was created by flying llamas.

nuff said.

Side: God exists but as well as physics
1 point

Okayy...I am a Christian and I of course believe in God and Jesus and the bible........and if you people have ever read a bible there is a section in the back called the Revelations. When the time comes Jesus or God will come down and take all of his people and take them to heaven..and leave the rest to the devil..but before he comes and after he will destroy the world w/ plagues and fire....but in order for that to happen events have to happen like the Antichrist coming and other things......but the point is if you do or don't believe in god....well when the day that GOD comes when the world ends whenever god decides for it to end.....he will come and leave all the people who thought he didn't exist and the people who thought it was the big bang or flying llamas or anything else...will stay behind and suffer....w/ the consequences and you will regret it.............i also doubt that the world will end on 2012 just cause the Mayan calender ends.......

Side: God created the earth
mnssid(2) Disputed
1 point

God create the Earth, not Jesus, he is just one of the prophet..

Side: God created the earth