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Debate Score:83
Arguments:36
Total Votes:116
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If God existed, would YOU critisise him

should we b angry at wht his let happen?

Yes

Side Score: 47
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No

Side Score: 36

Yes, I would criticize him. Stick to your principles. Plus an omniscient god would detect my insincerity anyway.

Side: Yes
2 points

Is there a god? No but therorectically if I came across leader or a creator, I sure as hell would critisise them. They can't make things better if you don't tell them want you like or hate.

Side: Yes

I can't argue against Jesus.

Side: Yes
2 points

Yes. Asking where he was during the Holocaust, the Rwanda genocide, the Congo genocide (happening right now), and many other things would be a great start.

Side: Yes
2 points

If there is a God, most definitely. There are too many horrible things going on in the world that I cannot fathom God justifying. But, it's God - maybe he's good reasons that are beyond my comprehension. Either God is not benevolent, omnipotent , or has a very twisted sick of humor.

The Other Side of the Coin
Side: Yes

Sure. If there were a god he had at least indirectly created me, so he wouldn't mind a little constructive criticism.

Of course he would be quite bored, because of this whole omniscience thing, but I'm sure he would be understanding.

For my criticism, may I quote from New Model Army:

Dear God - what is this evil that we've done?

Is it that we wanted more than you gave

why did you put us then in this smalltown grave

humility - is that what you want?

why did you make us then the way you did??

yes, we have pride

is this our sin?

Side: Yes
1 point

If He existed I would have some criticism to lay down. However, why would he care what I had to say?

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes, because He, She or It stuck us on an unstable planet prone to natural disasters.

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes, because He She or It stuck us on an unstable planet prone to natural disasters

Side: Yes

mmm, Who's god? BUT if he/she/it did exist, yes, I'm just too inquisitive

Side: Yes
1 point

If you assume that God existed and that he created me, then he would have had to have created me with the potential to criticize him, and since he is omniscient, he would know whether or not I would ever criticize him. Not only this, but he would know exactly what I would say.

In this way, if God existed, it would not be necessary for me to say anything to him. He would already know. Then again, this creates another paradox since I would never say it in the first place and thus he could know what I would say...

Damn time paradoxes.

Side: Yes
0 points

There's a lot of assumption there. Yes, the traditional view is that god is omniscient but he is also god and can therefore do anything including not knowing something. Yes, it's ridiculous but then, god moves in mysterious ways!

Side: Yes
1 point

I would criticize him for his approach of getting people to believe in him.

I'd say,"Why would you direct man to write a book about you thats so unbelievable rather than making your presence known, through action, for 2000 years?"

Side: Yes
1 point

If god did exist and he were right in front of me right now I'd be like "Dude...what's with all this suffering in the world?" and he'd be like "Dude...sorry, I have a bit of a drinking problem...and I get a little emotional in my decision making. You got three fiddy by any chance?"

Side: Yes
1 point

Depends on the God or Goddess. Tor has his hammer, Medusa turns you into stone, Shiva wrecks your stuff to make room for whatever and the god better known as God puts anyone in hell who dares question his eternal love.

Humans created their gods with great care. You're not supposed to be able to criticize them. That's the whole point of being a god.

Lets travel in time and criticize the people who came up with this nonsense...

Side: Yes
1 point

Not so much critisise that ask for an explanation on all the things he allows to happen in the world

Side: Yes
0 points

ahhh man, all the points i made for the 'no' section should b in the yes section. am new to this sorrry!!!

Side: Yes
0 points

I'd ask him if he was annoyed when Moses dropped the first set of commandments.

Side: Yes
6 points

if God {

   if God == Perfect {

     if God == All Powerful {

       World = Perfect

       OR

       God = douche

     }

   }

}

Side: No
xaeon(1093) Disputed
5 points

I know this is kind of geeky but surely you can have a single if-statement encapsulating god's equality to being perfect and all powerful?

if (god!=null && god==perfect && god==allPowerful) {

// etc

}

else {

// etc

}

You gotta be careful posting code on the web dude. There are geeks everywhere!

Side: Yes
rbouchoux(31) Disputed
3 points

Admittedly, your code is far less pseudo then mine. But it's possible the reaction should differ based on which of the statements are true.

For example, if god was not perfect, but was all powerful then we'd be screwed.

Side: No
4 points

I assume when we talk about God here, we talk about the Christian God. IF he did exist (which he doesn't), I wouldn't criticise God. The God of the Old Testament has got to be the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it, petty, vindictive, unjust, unforgiving, racist, an ethnic-cleanser urging his people on to acts of genocide. How can you criticise a being like that?

Side: No
5 points

An omniscient God would know about your insincerity/reluctance so you are just as bad off being open or not.

Side: Yes
4 points

That is of course something that I didn't think about, and you're dead right! I guess I'd be pretty buggered either way then. If he knew already then I suppose having a little vent (getting it all of my chest) couldn't hurt.

Side: Yes
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
1 point

Sorry but, uh, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, WRONG! Everything you just said is wrong.

I don't want to open up a can of worms here, so lets take it one step at a time. How is god unjust?

I can understand where you are coming from, because most Christian religions are flawed and contradict themselves all the time. But based on my beliefs that is all wrong.

Side: your wrong
xaeon(1093) Disputed
3 points

I can't read Samuel 24 in any other way but to intepret it as god being unjust.

Side: No
3 points

First id like to make it clear, that God is as real as you and me.

and why would you wanna criticize God, his will is perfect and what he wants goes. We ourselves are to blame for what happens on this world, because we are cold hearted and God has constantly warned us that bad things would come if we kept on sinning, all that is happpening on this earth is a product of our selfishness and pride, because we think that we are to good for God and that we dont need his help

Side: No
2 points

ASSUMING GOD EXISTS, he is all-knowing and all-perfect.

With that, my criticisms would be not only irrelevant (since he already knows what I'm going to say), but meaningless.

Side: No

Why should we criticize the creator? Should he have any vested interest in our well being? He could have created whatever he wanted, who knows, maybe he has created everything. God has to be indifferent to his creations, it doesn't make sense otherwise.

Side: No
2 points

In the book of Job in the Bible, Job criticized the Lord for the destruction of his house, the deaths of his children, theft of his livestock, and the way things were turning out for him. He thought that God was mistakenly punishing him when he was a righteous man. God responded to him by asking him a series of questions which left him awed with the knowledge of God. And finally realizing that God knew what he was doing and was in control of his life, Job repented in dust and ashes.

Even if we don't realize why God allows bad things to happen in the world, we must realize that he has a specific reason for what he does. And if we do try to criticize God, I think we will find out that he knows more than we understand.

Side: No
0 points

im intrested into finding out how many people would actuly critise god onto how bonevolient he is.

if their was actually a God would you respect him? would you become a follower? or.....would it make u angry that ther is a person who sits and watches as the world goes down hill with the power to intervene.

so my question is simple. would you respect god for making what the world is today??

Side: No
0 points

"Of course he would be quite bored, because of this whole omniscience thing, but I'm sure he would be understanding."

did God create the world for his entertainment to watch how humans will act towards each other?

and the omniscience part, if he he all knowing then this means he knows everything their is to know about the future of each individual human and that we have not got our own destiny, we have been set an path to follow without our knowledge.

Side: No

And risk being struck by lightning? What are you nuts!

Side: No
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