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Of course, it IS possible that there's a God.. But, as long as we're looking a possibilities, it's possible that there's a Flying Spaghetti Monster too.. As long as that's possible, what logic is there in denying it?
a Flying Spaghetti Monster too.. As long as that's possible, what logic is there in denying it?
1)I don't deny it. Mathematical Infinity makes all kinds of things possible within infinite space and/or time.
2)Spaghetti isn't offering me love or eternal life, nor is it offering my friends anything. I have no reason to hope it exists, thus no profound interest in searching it out any further.
The guy is throwing out a straw man argument...........he starts by saying "a God" may exist, so he is not talking about God to start with, he is talking about a thing comparable to the Flying Spaghetti Monster. The Flying Spaghetti Monster being a thing which we can imagine does not compare to God who gives us the power of imagination and cannot be imagined as we cannot imagine anything outside of our imagination. God is there if your imaginative powers are functioning or not. This brainless atheistic argument presented by the pothead is only intended to confuse and the only person who is really confused by it is the one who is using it as they fool themselves into thinking it is a valid argument when it is nonsense.
2)Spaghetti isn't offering me love or eternal life, nor is it offering my friends anything. I have no reason to hope it exists, thus no profound interest in searching it out any further.
Um, but by the law of mathematical infinity that you just brought up, there IS a Spaghetti god that is offering you and your friends love and eternal life.
so how come you do not believe on that monster? Seems to me that your analogy is either completely stupid or that you should believe it and give your life to it. All your stupid monster does is make you bitter.
Also along the same line of thought as "If God is possible what logic is there in being Atheist?" is "If there being no God is possible, what point is their in being religious?" or even "If it is possible that all of the Greek Myths are true, why be Christian, Jewish, so on?" It is up to what you believe in and what you think is true. If the reasoning is "Hey if it is possible to have eternal happiness why not get on the road just in case?" then I can say "Why be Christian if it is possible that the aforementioned Greek Myths are real? Why not worship those gods and goddesses instead?" It is all up to personal belief and some believe it is a waste of time to pursue religious endeavors since they don't believe in a God or any gods/goddesses.
He really isn't...at least how you expect him to be.
But anyway, you're allowed to keep any random notions of hope, something which makes no sense.
The Gods created by humans are just the Gods you'd expect from a species that's about half a chromosome away from being a chimpanzee. At least the Abrahamic ones, anyway.
Ah, little stain of sins, do you really think you can childishly rebel against me?
Just...keep yourself alive. I've something you'd enjoy seeing, or perhaps even experiencing if you keep rebelling like that. Though I'm confident that any religious zombie would cease to rebel, for all the religious want is to escape rebelling against the will of those bigger than themselves. The indoctrination, though, makes it harder.
I guess you missed it the first time...because you have made serious threats to do great bodily harm to myself and many other people, I have no interest in reading your response....punk.
I've only heard about 3 of them - one that's narcissistic, one that's insane, and one that's crazy and narcissistic - under Judaism, Islam and Christianity respectively.
If that were true, wouldn't Atheists actually love God even more than believers love God...
I love watching Atheists bait and switch like the wind. It was proven to me long ago that Atheism has nothing to do with intellectualism. It's simply a spiritual rejection at all costs.
I have debated many Atheists who in one breath were mad that God would forgive "bad people" at the last second, and then in the next breath are mad that God executed justice on certain groups in the Bible. Is there any possibility of intellectual discourse after that? No, there isn't, so what's the point? Atheism tosses all intellectual debate out of the window and heads straight for semantics that they claim do not even exist, squirm to the emotional appeals, and go full pretzel into some kind of ping pong mental gymnastics to leapfrog the concept of a creator at all costs, reward/punishment or not. Whatever it takes for an Atheist to crawl through the day with what's left of their conscience still in tact.
That's more like... coincidences are more likely than an omnipotent deity intentionally putting things like that so only the mentally feeblest can grasp its intentions.
mad that God executed justice on certain groups in the Bible.
Don't worry about it - that book isn't worth making anyone mad. The worrying matter is the people willing to believe such things, but some prefer to preach the "hate the concept, not the person" stuff, which leads them to actually be mad on such trivial things.
Whatever it takes for an Atheist to crawl through the day with what's left of their conscience still in tact.
Any atheist who acts like that is the atheist equivalent of the average religious zombie. We don't need notions of deities and such organised religions to build a convenient population, and can do just as well without them. Therefore, religion is redundant and can be removed.
If God is possible what logic is there in being Atheist?
If is the statement in the first place.
being rational and unbiased to arguments, we can say that the idea of "god" is just philosophy of some people back at that time.. so believing the head, wrt to all knowledge we possess and science, we should not so much believe in "god" until we actually have something profound. Again, I respect all views and arguments and don't intend to offend anyone..
unbiased to arguments, we can say that the idea of "god"
I've never met this particular type of Atheist. Are they in outer space next to the Spaghetti Monster and the magical nothing that manifested reality from its magical nothingness?
I've never met this particular type of Atheist. Are they in outer space next to the Spaghetti Monster and the magical nothing that manifested reality from its magical nothingness?
You sure would have met such an atheist, but just not talked to him about his/her views and hence you concluding that you've never met such an atheist is a contradiction.
then admit that you are a little banana gobbling clown
I can be a banana gobbling clown or the monster under people's beds, it's just what they chose to imagine, I see nothing related to the debate in actually admitting your imagination.
Just because something is possible doesn't mean it's wrong to doubt it.
Star Trek aliens who look 99% human and can speak our language is possible, but most of us don't really believe that's how alien life will be.
Big Foot, the Loch Ness Monster, ghosts, vampires, are all possible, but most sensible people don't really think they exist, or that if they do they're not really in the form that matches up to the legends.
Beating me in an argument is possible, but no one really thinks you're going to.
Sure I am. In infinite space and time, not only do all of those things exist, but they exist in infinite amounts. It's Hawking's Theory of Everything. Or are you claiming a basketball can exist inside of nothing?
If god is possible what logic is there in being an atheist ?
Which God are you referring to ?
You do know there are claims for thousands of other gods .
The logic in being an atheist is the fact that most were believers like you and others but used logic to overcome the horeshit they were fed by the process of indoctrination ; believers claim to have a realationship with a supernatural entity they have never seen , heard or touched yet exists ....
Logic never came into it for believers they are all merely products of indoctrination and too weak to challenge the bullshit they were fed as mere infants
You do know there are claims for thousands of other gods
Only in Hinduism, which is being replaced quickly by the "God of Abraham". 90+% of the theistic world believes in "the God of Abraham". Just as the Bible said would happen.
The logic in being an atheist is the fact that most were believers like you and others but used logic to overcome the horeshit they were fed by the process of indoctrination
So you now believe that a magical nothing used its magical nothingness to magically manifest reality? Makes sense....
No. That's your Atheistic provided singularity. You do know what a singularity is... don't you? Or are you claiming a magic rainbow? Maybe you'd like to have a spelling contest? Probably not...
logic never came into it for believers they are all merely products of indoctrination and too weak to challenge the bullshit they were fed as mere infants
1)the highest IQs on Earth are theists. Ask if you want the links. I created a debate about it as well.
2)Maybe you were just too weak to hold onto faith when life wasn't perfect.
The highest IQ's on earth are theists , I don't believe that and even if it were true so what ?
No I wasn't weak as I realised I was believing in bullshit which again demonstrates that it's you who is terrified to question as you're to weak to realise you're living a lie
No I wasn't weak as I realised I was believing in bullshit which again demonstrates that it's you who is terrified to question as you're to weak to realise you're living a lie
So... No points. No rebuttals. No sources. No links. Whew. Even the most ignorant Atheists usually bring something. Off ya go youngster. Learning is your friend. Come back when you know what you're talking about, know how to debate, and don't make a fool out of yourself. Ta ta.
Dermit must have been in jail or out on a big long drinking binge.....he seems to be drunk in here often, acting goofy, and then poof, he'll be gone for six months or a year, then come back as nasty as ever. One of these times he won't come back and will probably wake up in Hell wishing he had listened to and believed God's word before it was too late.
Ad hominem. Do you have a rebuttle? No? I didn't figure. I was told I'd never be anything. I have multiple houses and retired at age 38. Anything else?
Based on the self contradictory scriptural content of the main religions the considered opinion of most atheists is that the various man made gods currently on offer do not, and indeed could not exist.
So the key word here is ''IF''.
'IF' your granny had testicles she'd be your grandfather.
''IF'' it's possible to live forever where's the logic in dying?
Maybe it's better to hedge your bets and, as most agnostics think, well, never say never.
Uh huh. The Roman gods seemed to have died and been replaced by the insignificant man that they crucified, ironically.
Hinduism is cascading into a sea of the God of Abraham. 90+% of theists believe in the God of Abraham, pushing towards what the Bible foretold. Anything else?
Nahhh... To demand proof would suggest that there IS proof, but hasn't been revealed yet... But, we DON'T demand proof, just as I expect you wouldn't demand proof for a Spaghetti monster..
I've shown you proof. Your response is "I don't watch Youtube videos". Well, it's going to be hard to listen to speeches by physicists and Biologists with that wall of fear of God up.
I don't really think god is possible, that's MY logic for being Atheist. The key word there is "think". You THINK there IS, I THINK there isn't. My "logic" is as likely as yours, since neither of us has any proof one way or the other, the beat goes on.
I won't "rail against" your god, I only rail against your insistence that I, and only I, am wrong when you can offer NO proof that either of us is right.
I think that what you're trying to get at is it may be possible that there is no God but is it reasonable? I personally would say that it is more reasonable to think that the Christian God exists while the others don't
from what I've noticed (just from the atheist i know personally) many atheist are in stage of their lives were they are in a since "finding themselves" so i feel this is sorta of an easy way to not commit to anything until they have viewed all options.
Again my opinion from the atheists i know not saying everyone is like this
