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If God is the creator of all creatures, why would God create something he doesn'

If God is the creator of all creatures, why would God create something he doesn't love?

It doesn't make sense that God would create gay people and then call them an abomination.

"But wait..." you may say, "he did not create them gay, they chose to be gay."

So then, God gave us free will but if we don't choose what He wants us to choose, He'll hate us?  If so, why give us free will at all?  I mean, why give us free will and then punish us for using it?

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59. One in every 5,000 babies is born with a condition known as “imperforate anus.”. This means the baby is born without an anus and has to have one created manually in the hospital (In other words, they have to reem the baby a new one).

What kind of loving God would create a creature without an ass hole?  Was He trying to solve the gay "problem?"

I am so confused.

Maybe God just wants us to use our free will to love all of His creations, no matter how screwed up they are, and chose to help them. But I still don't see how calling gays abominations would inspire us to love them and help them.  Maybe I should be looking at this from an atheist's/nature's/evolution's point of view.

 http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/If_there_s_no_God_and_nature_seems_indifferent_to_harmful_genetic_mutations_why

 

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There are Gods and they are us. There can only be one ;)

joecavalry(40163) Clarified
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Humans are meant to use other humans to evolve our technology to the point where only one human is needed to "handle" the "entire" universe. Once that goal is reached, we need to take each other out of the equation until there is only one of us left. Then that person can God over.... nothing? I mean, the only living things that worship Gods are humans. Animals don't give a rat's ass about Gods. Hell, animals don't even give a rat's ass about time. Have you ever seen an animal look at his watch and say, "Shit! I'm running late!" ;)

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Fairy tales are not perfect .

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So then, God gave us free will but if we don't choose what He wants us to choose, He'll hate us? If so, why give us free will at all? I mean, why give us free will and then punish us for using it?

A better argument is asking why God would create something with the foreknowledge that they would go to hell. If we do not have libertarian free will, then the question is answered: God predestined it for some sort of purpose. If we have libertarian free will, then everyone should believe in Him necessarily, since God knows all things, and their deaths in hell would be purposeless.

God did not create anyone as a homosexual. That is a choice they make. Read Romans chapter 1.

God is just, so he would not condemn someone for something that is natural. He calls homosexuality unnatural, unseemly, and a choice.

God does not hate anyone. That is why he died for our sins. He gave us a way to escape his wrath. He is so good.

People come up with excuses to make themselves feel like they are justified to hate God. When God only wants what is best. When Adam and Eve sinned it brought a curse upon everything. The curse runs its course. God gave us a way to escape the eternal curse.

What if science found the "gay" gene? Would you change your mind about homosexuality being unnatural, unseemly, and a choice? Or perhaps you would argue for "a cure." ;)

Anthonyhook(178) Clarified
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No, because God says it is unnatural. If science says they find a gene then they would be mistaken. God can not be wrong. His word can not be wrong. I did not say it was unseemly, unnatural or a choice. God did. And God does not lie, He can't lie.