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 If Islam is a religion of peace......... (23)

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If Islam is a religion of peace.........

then why would anyone worry about violence if the Koran was burnt or the mosque was moved?

Violence would escalate if either action is taken is what we are being told by the media,but if Islam is a religion of peace, why would one have to worry? 

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Islam is what Christianity was in the dark ages. Not all Muslims are violent extremists, but the ones who aren't are just as terrified of the growing number who are as the rest of us, so they don't dare speak out. So called "honor" killings, murder of homosexuals, oppression of women, murder of those accused of "sorcery", murder of those accused of adultery...there's your religion of peace and that's what awaits us all if we keep allowing their numbers to grow in the western world. We will all be forced to pretend to convert to their depraved way of life or die.

Mifune1423(17) Disputed
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I believe the statistic is Islam and its global jihad kills more people today in a year than the inquisition did through-out its application.

iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
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I'll need to see statistics. Even with the significant population growth, this seems a hard number to track.

I would ad that if one were to make a more relevant comparison, one would have to include crusades and present the numbers in a per capita outline.

My guess is the two silly religions are pretty even as far as killing others in the name of their make-believe friend.

Wutan(7) Disputed
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31912 people died from the Spanish inquisition. -Google

Seeing as how Jihad is a declaration to attack by an imam against for all believers to attack them, depending on the imam's popularity if anyone will care what he has to say. For instance something completely moronic like a jihad against Barney (yes the purple dinosaur) has been instituted and dismissed by other normal Muslims.

Don't exclude Islam as the only religion capable of mass murder. The global jihad you're mentioning is being executed by a small extreme percentage of the Muslim faith.

http://www.theskepticalreview.com/JAHPoliticsDeathToll.html

So you argument is invalid because the two can't be compared.

I ask the OP to find one religion that isn't a religion of peace. It's always a small percentage in the perspective religion that follows it's tenets very loosely.

link6065(740) Disputed
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Government still kills more people then any religion combined... Ever.

Here are the statistics performed by the University of Hawaii.

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE5.HTM

Muslims have their radicals but we have our radicals too. I say we let our radicals take on their radicals and see who wins. Then, we go in and take care of the winner (end of the radicals) ;)

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Wow, you just said something smart. Did someone steal your account?

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Agreed but why is the media and libs going out of their way to promote the "religion of peace" while calling TEA party "extremists". Consistency libs, please.;)

NuclearFish(182) Disputed
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Liberals don't "promote" Islam, they just recognize that the loud minority doesn't make a majority. Even ten thousand very quiet people that tend to their own business can be misrepresented by two village idiots screaming at the top of their lungs. Same way other countries perceive us as stupid cowboys with no sense of dignity... A small radical portion misrepresents the whole. It just so happens that a large piece of that small radical portion is people claiming to be affiliated with the Tea Party. So many Tea Party members claim to be Christians and peace-loving but all they talk about is whipping out radical Islam and dethroning the faithless (they sound like their own enemies). Christ himself said not to resist an evil person, but to simply take the blow and lead by example... Yet the American Christian is mostly aggressive and accusing, with very little fingers pointed at the self.

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The religion isn't the root cause of violence, just about any religion can be used to justify just about anything; just look at Christianity (godHatesFags.com all the way to predominately gay congregations, christian communists to christian fascists, creationists to theistic-evolutionists). Most Muslims are from the middle east, thus look at the social and economic forces in the middle east and you'll find your causes of violence there, not in the religion itself.

aveskde(1935) Disputed
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The religion isn't the root cause of violence, just about any religion can be used to justify just about anything;

I have to strongly disagree there.

In Saudi Arabia, the common feeling is that women should never be allowed to work around or fraternise with unrelated males (unless it's a husband).

This type of belief is based on their religion. It's a complicated belief in practice but has a central authority pushing it.

Therefore it's easy to see how without Islam to create such a belief, it wouldn't have the support that it does. It might not even have existed.

Most Muslims are from the middle east, thus look at the social and economic forces in the middle east and you'll find your causes of violence there, not in the religion itself.

While some fighting is political and motivated by resources, most of it is sectarian. It couldn't exist if the sects didn't exist.

NuclearFish(182) Disputed
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Strongly disagree with your last statement. You're giving "religious" leaders too much credit for their word. Most wars are not for what people say they are. If you can inflame the populace with religious beliefs and get them on your side, you don't have to make a war for resources seem as bad. War is usually the same across the board and "Holy War" is usually a cover-up for the motives of the few fat cats in charge.

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Agreed, in general. To elaborate on my position:

If it's classified as a religion of peace, it has more to do with the religion itself. If violence may ensue, it has more to do with peoples' personal interpretations and approaches.

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Government still kills more then any other group combined ever. It's called democide and here are the statistics.

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE5.HTM

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Not this shit again. Not everyone who calls themselves a Muslim is a Muslim. The same with Christianity.

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I'm sorry, but have no time to read all the arguments and replies. I think 'peace' is something quite relative, and maybe Muslims are trying to look for some kind of peace that includes all of the mores of their religion, and through the way that for them is probably the most appropriate and, of course, accepted (and reasoned) by the one who exerts the strongest influence over them.

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Yes, their peace is that everyone convert,die or be considered a lower class than a Muslim and so it is relative though liberals speak of "religion of peace" in a different manner.

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yes!!! all religions are religions of peace. no religion is a violent or bad religion. there are only good and bad people. because of the doings of some people in the name of religion, a religion cannot be called bad or violent. it would be wrong on every persons part to call a religion good or bad or better than the rest.

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MegaDittos(571) Disputed
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Read the question then, why would anyone have to worry if a Koran is burnt or a mosque is moved?

Side: Yes it is
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This is why people need to worry...Muslim are easily insulted and might go for anyone's neck once they feel insulted.. Epic fail religion of peace.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9O72-I7bnZE/TaxQjDKHgnI/AAAAAAAAABQ/g8GztJI42s0/s1600/behead-islam-violence.jpg

Side: Yes it is
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If Islam is a religion of peace.........

The one thing I like about Islam is that they oppose fags. We should follow in their footsteps.

Side: Yes it is