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Trump to the WhiteHouse! Obama repeats!
Debate Score:56
Arguments:28
Total Votes:63
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If Trump makes a run for the Presidency, who will win? Trump or Obama?

If Donald Trump decides to annouce his candidacy for the President of the United States, who will win?  Trump or Obama?

Trump to the WhiteHouse!

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Obama repeats!

Side Score: 42
1 point

Trump, because he's famous. People know him and they'll think he'll be able to help us financially, though I'm dubious. America is America after all, they're all about the celebrities. The only way Obama has a chance of winning is if he does some miracle and impresses everyone, unlike what he's done so far it seems.

Side: Trump to the WhiteHouse!
Spoonerism(831) Disputed
2 points

Impresses everyone?

Like, I don't know...shooting Osama Bin Laden in the face?

Because I don't know what America you live in, but the one I live in was pretty impressed across the board.

Side: Obama repeats!
Saurbaby(5579) Disputed
1 point

I put that before I found out about that.

Kind of ironic.

Side: Trump to the WhiteHouse!
JustIgnoreMe(3585) Clarified
1 point

Right - only a few years late :)

(unfortunately)

Side: Trump to the WhiteHouse!
1 point

Trump is kind of a double-edged sword in my opinion. One the one hand he knows how to handle money efficiently, but on the other hand he is a manipulator, which is probably how he got his money in the first place. The whole "I helped end the birther debate" mantra of Trump has left a bad taste in my mouth. I don't know if I can trust the guy.

Side: Trump to the WhiteHouse!
Spoonerism(831) Disputed
2 points

What makes you think he knows how to handle money?

He's filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy in four businesses! http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-filed-bankruptcy-times/story?id=13419250

Side: Obama repeats!
1 point

Trump will beat Obama as long as he doesn't get too nutty... I think his pushing the birther stuff was a mistake for him but I'd vote for him... Hell, I'll vote for anyone that runs against Barry! That bitch needs to go!

Side: Trump to the WhiteHouse!
TheTruth92(7) Disputed
1 point

lol i don't think you should vote. Trumph never gave his political views, so why would you even vote when you don't know his side of the story?

...

Side: Obama repeats!
Batdude(76) Disputed
1 point

People voted for Obama knowing nothing more about him other than he was not a Republican and NOT Bush.

Side: What the hell do you mean
1 point

Trump, in my opinion, would win for the same reason Obama won against McCain. People are pissed off at him. Let's be realistic though, Obama never RAN against McCain, he ran against Bush. People were so angry with Bush that they would (and did) vote for a turd rolled in sugar and called a doughnut, rather than vote for anything remotely resembling the "last guy".

Side: Trump to the WhiteHouse!
2 points

Let's be realistic though, Obama never RAN against McCain, he ran against Bush.

When I was watching it all go down, it actually seemed more like he was running against Palin.

Side: Obama repeats!
6 points

Trump is batshit insane, you don't need a Reagan repeat in a time like this. He was on the birther wagon then claimed personal responsibility for the re-releasing of the birth certificate so Americans would pay attention to something more important like I don't know.... the budget proposals. He frequently overstates his wealth and said that he exaggerated his wealth by 2 or 3 billion dollars. Organizations frequently estimate his wealth much lower than he says it really is and he is politically retarded. I don't like Obama but you can't do that to your country, might as well throw Palin in there.

Side: Obama repeats!
5 points

I totally agree that Trump isn't fit for the job, but you've got to admit who Americans will vote for. They really don't give a shit about the politics, at least not enough of them, as long as it isn't directly hurting them. They'll chose the celebrity, no matter how bad an idea, over the man who hasn't done much to make them happy.

Side: Obama repeats!
3 points

might as well throw Palin in there.

To be fair, I think Mr. Trump would be slightly better than Palin. In much the same way that having two venomous snakes in your pants is slightly better than having three...

Side: Obama repeats!
3 points

although I want to see Obama leave the office if he runs against Trump he will win again.

Side: Obama repeats!
TheTruth92(7) Disputed
1 point

Why would you think Obama would win???? YOu never even heard Trumph side of the story. He never gave his political speech. If you are choosing the winner "right now" it would be Obama. But if you choose Obama without hearing the other side, then i think that is bad.

Side: Trump to the WhiteHouse!
3 points

If Trump runs and is given the nomination, I will be amazed. If he wins against Obama, I'll move to Finland and open a candy store. Because I'll know that life is clearly a big joke at that point.

In spite of the fact that America elected Bush twice, I'm still holding out hope that they're way too smart to elect Trump.

I mean, come on! The man is a real estate tycoon, sure. http://saraschaefer.com/ss/banner_mid.gif This makes him pretty removed from the everyman's woes and problems. He's also a host to a reality show. What's next? Snooki's campaign for the Senate? Fame is not a qualification for the presidency.

I want a president who understands the political system, foreign policy issues, and the economy. Not a man who understands being rich but has never learned how to be eloquent.

And I certainly don't want a man who is so stupid as to jump on the birther bandwagon and question our president's legitimacy over the lack of a "long-form birth certificate".

Side: Obama repeats!
2 points

It will be a mistake in waiting should The Don get GOP nomination,I doubt he can withstand the onslaught of character assasination. Obama was given free pass, because he had ethnicity(1/2 black) on his side,Trump is a white guy afterall.

Side: Obama repeats!
2 points

Andy, this is a waste of space becuase honestly, you haven't heard anything what Trumph can offer to the United States. If you post this for fun, i understand but if you post this as a serious topic, then this is stupid. Trumph haven't said anything about his political views so how can you compare him to Obama who has.

For now, Obama seems like the better candidate. :)

Side: Obama repeats!
addltd(5112) Disputed
1 point

Dear TheTruth,

I have posted it as a serious topic. And of course it is meant to get people talking, thinking and arguing.

If you were watching/listening to the trump press conference that Obama brink into the middle of (beceause he was getting slaughtered), you would take this seriously.

BTW, on May 23rd (the day after he finisheds the last apprentice show), we can expect some announcement! What it will be I don't know, but I bet it will be Trump confirming he will run for president.

Andy

Side: Trump to the WhiteHouse!
2 points

Obama is not doing anything besides helping this country. If he gets reelected he will make many improvements. He already killed Bin Laden

Side: Obama repeats!
Hellno(17762) Disputed
1 point

Obama is a no good, Chicago thug with no experience. He attended an anti-America/racist church for twenty years, and then dumped that church when running for POTUS! His racist wife was never proud of her country until Barry ran for POTUS. The First Wookie felt it necessary to say that her husband could get shot at a gas station because he's black... so? Anyone could! Barry was also friends with anti-America American terrorists until... once again, he had to dump them because he was running for POTUS! Since becoming President, he has apologized for America all over the world and practically bankrupted the country! He's a disgrace and an embarrassment.

Side: Trump to the WhiteHouse!

Are you kidding me? If Trump makes it to the finals, a lot of republicans are going to say "What is this?" and go and vote for Obama. Obama would win this battle, if it comes to this.

Side: Obama repeats!
2 points

Just think about it.

Trump never showed any interest in office before did he?

Personally I think he is in it for the money. After the campaign is over, then he'll use the publicity to jumpstart his business again.

Side: Obama repeats!

It is now 2015 and Obama has been re-elected. Donald Trump has announced this year that he is running for President but I don't think he has a chance.

Side: Obama repeats!
1 point

I'm not that familiar with American politics; Donald Trump was little more than a name to me. So I decided to look him up on trusty old Wikipedia, and it had this to say:

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Bibliography

Trump has authored many books including:

Trump: The Art of the Deal (1987)

Trump: Surviving at the Top (1990)

Trump: The Art of Survival (1991)

Trump: The Art of the Comeback (1997)

Trump: How to Get Rich (2004)

The Way to the Top: The Best Business Advice I Ever Received (2004)

Trump: Think Like a Billionaire: Everything You Need to Know About Success, Real Estate, and Life (2004)

Trump: The Best Golf Advice I Ever Received (2005)

Why We Want You to be Rich: Two Men - One Message (2006), co-written with Robert Kiyosaki.

Think Big and Kick Ass in Business and Life (2007), co-written with Bill Zanker. (ISBN 978-0-06-154783-6)

The America We Deserve (2000) (with Dave Shiflett, ISBN 1-58063-131-2)

Trump: The Best Real Estate Advice I Ever Received: 100 Top Experts Share Their Strategies (2007)

Trump 101: The Way to Success (2007)

Trump Never Give Up: How I Turned My Biggest Challenges into Success (2008)

Trump Tower (2011) (with Jeffrey Robinson, ISBN 978-1-59-315643-5)

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Ummm... does this list remind anyone of Professor Lockhart from Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets? I can't help but draw the comparison XD

Side: Obama repeats!
1 point

I think that Mr. Trump might make a good president. He's smart and obviously knows how to handle money, but I don't think it'll be easy to defeat Mr. Obama. If you want to know who I'd vote for, if I voted, it would be for Mr. Trump, and I hope that he wins, but I don't think that he will.

Didn't he reveal not long ago that he wouldn't be running?

Side: Obama repeats!