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Hell Yes! Heavens No!
Debate Score:33
Arguments:32
Total Votes:34
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If You Went To Hell, Would You Make Friends With Satan?(if all that jazz was real)

So if Christianity, Islam, and Judaism rang true about the existence of God, Heaven, Hell, and Satan, and you just so happened to be sent to Hell, you you try to become best friends with Satan. What if when you made friends with him, there was a slight chance that you wouldn't be tortured or burned for all eternity? Would you do it, or shy away from it because he was the devil and was evil?

 

 

Hell Yes!

Side Score: 16
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Heavens No!

Side Score: 17
2 points

Think about it, Hell is just a giant party filled with your preferred gender. Sure it may suck to be the one taking it, but chill with Satan, and you can be the one that is giving it. Play it cool and you can get close, work your way up the ladder, be his right hand man, his number two.

Revelation says that there will be 1000 years of peace when God locks away Satan in the abyss. Woops, Satan's gone, guess who is left to rule over Hell. Don't be silly now, this isn't the time to change things up, you must wait, for what is 1000 years compared to eternity, Satan is coming back one last time so while you are covering for him you have to play the part.

Satan will see that when left in complete control, you still followed all of his orders, he knows he can trust you. This should get you through to the time when God annihilates Satan for good.

Well hey now, this is pretty neat, you are home alone and daddy is never coming home. Now it is time to do things your way, like I don't know, not eternally torture people for finite crimes like that asshole God.

Side: Hell Yes!
OddHannah(313) Disputed
1 point

Revelation says that there will be 1000 years of peace when God locks away Satan in the abyss. Woops, Satan's gone, guess who is left to rule over Hell.

Satan disappears? I never read about that. I don't think thats right. Besides Satan doesn't rule over Hell.

Well hey now, this is pretty neat, you are home alone and daddy is never coming home. Now it is time to do things your way, like I don't know, not eternally torture people for finite crimes like that asshole God.

Satan never leaves. He is locked up for 1000 years during the millennial reign. He them comes out and is eternally cast into Hell.

Side: Heavens No!
Stryker(849) Clarified
1 point

Satan disappears? I never read about that. I don't think thats right. Besides Satan doesn't rule over Hell.

And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. (Revelation 20:1-3)

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison

Besides Satan doesn't rule over Hell.

The question is framed as if Satan ruled over Hell. Just like the question is is framed as "if all that jazz was real" it doesn't matter that it isn't, we are speaking as if it is.

Satan never leaves. He is locked up for 1000 years during the millennial reign. He them comes out and is eternally cast into Hell.

14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; (Hebrews 2:14)

12 “Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says:

“‘You were the seal of perfection,

full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.

13 You were in Eden,

the garden of God;

every precious stone adorned you:

carnelian, chrysolite and emerald,

topaz, onyx and jasper,

lapis lazuli, turquoise and beryl.

Your settings and mountings were made of gold;

on the day you were created they were prepared.

14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub,

for so I ordained you.

You were on the holy mount of God;

you walked among the fiery stones.

15 You were blameless in your ways

from the day you were created

till wickedness was found in you.

16 Through your widespread trade

you were filled with violence,

and you sinned.

So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God,

and I expelled you, guardian cherub,

from among the fiery stones.

17 Your heart became proud

on account of your beauty,

and you corrupted your wisdom

because of your splendor.

So I threw you to the earth;

I made a spectacle of you before kings.

18 By your many sins and dishonest trade

you have desecrated your sanctuaries.

So I made a fire come out from you,

and it consumed you,

and I reduced you to ashes on the ground

in the sight of all who were watching.

19 All the nations who knew you

are appalled at you;

you have come to a horrible end

and will be no more.’” (Ezekiel 28:12-19)

Here are two passages that support my claim. I don't actually believe any of this nonsense, this is just moral question presented in a way to make it more fun to answer. To be fair to you, there is a verse that supports your claim.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. (Revelation 20:10)

Side: Hell Yes!
2 points

Maybe we would become best buds and he and his demons won't torture me. It would be worth a shot :P

Side: Hell Yes!
1 point

Sure, why not?

Side: Hell Yes!
3 points

The devil does not control hell. Hell is where the devil is sent to in order to be punished and destroyed eternally. There is no love, no peace, no joy there.

Side: Heavens No!
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

You could still make friends with the guy who has been there the longest. It might help to learn all of the tricks that hell has.

Side: Hell Yes!
trumpet_guy(503) Disputed
2 points

Oh yes, conversing with Satan will be the first thing on your mind while your flesh burns and you can't see from the fire burning so hot

Side: Heavens No!
2 points

What? And make the devil my bitch like Saddam Hussein did? Nah, that's not for me.

Side: Heavens No!
1 point

Nobody wants that to happen ... again. Although, it did make me look like a badass.

Side: Heavens No!
1 point

First off to 'lolz', its well accepted that Satan runs hell.

More to the point; I wouldn't try to be friends with the devil because I'm not a kiss-ass. I'm sure in order to be friends with the devil you have to be punk.

"Yeah Satan, cloven hooves are better than feet, shoes fitting is crap."

Cause yeah, no; shoes keep your feet from bleeding while running on cobble-stone roads.

Side: Heavens No!
Quocalimar(6470) Disputed
2 points

I think cloven hooves will do a better job of that.

In any regards, think of Hell as prison times a million. You say you don't want to be somebody's bitch, but it's almost assured you will be. So if you will be, why not be the top dog's bitch.

"Those horns look good as Hell on you, Satan-sama!"

Side: Hell Yes!
2 points

Japanese honorifics, Quocalimar-san?

Side: Hell Yes!
sauh(1106) Disputed
1 point

So, you will bow down to whomever is higher in the 'pecking order' than you?

Cause that is a punk.

Are you a punk?

Side: Heavens No!

I want to live purified and sanctified.

Side: Heavens No!
1 point

Hell is the grave & not a place of torment as some believe.. Hell is a bad translation of the greek and hebrew words "sheol" and "hades" which means "Grave".. People cease to exist when they die-see Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 & 10 to wait for the resurrection day- see Job 14:12 & 14:21

(the saved people put on immortality at christ's return, the lost don't)..

Will the lost tormented forever in fire? No;

The lost will be reduced to ashes at the end of the world-see malachi 4:1-3, Isaiah 47:14 (they will be destroyed forever, not tormented forever);

The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was set forth as an example to those who afterwards live ungodly. God condemned those cities by burning them into ashes-see Jude 1:7, 2 Peter 2:6.

Just like S&G;the lost will also be reduced to ashes on judgment day-see Malachi 4:1-3, 2 Peter 2:9;

God cleanses the earth from wickedness & than recreates it-see 2 Peter 3:10, Nahum 1:9, Isaiah 65:17.

Is the soul eternal? No. "The soul that sins it shall die" - Ezekiel 18:20 helltruth.com

Side: Heavens No!

Hell only exists in horror films. It is not a real place. It would be best for people not to even think of Hell.

Side: Heavens No!
0 points

He would be to busy torturing humans on the surface world to have any time for friends

Side: Heavens No!