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It DOES Trump can do no wrong
Debate Score:54
Arguments:38
Total Votes:58
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If a rising DOW means Trump is doing good, does a falling DOW mean he sucks?


It DOES

Side Score: 23
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Trump can do no wrong

Side Score: 31
3 points

Actually, we don't need a falling Dow to know he sucks! We just need to see how the country is divided more than EVER. How he started another nuclear arms race. How he lies and cheats daily (ask his wife). How he admires authoritarian leaders (that compliment him). How he destroys the environment more every week. How he denigrates women. How he plays golf and watches TV while the world burns (li'l Nero)! How he pushes aside our allies that won't agree with him (because he's wrong)! How he tries to "act" like a faux Christian while being so non-Christ-like! How the "President of law and order" destroys our law and order agencies" to remodel them to his particular type of disorder!

Hmmm, is there ANYTHING that DOESN'T SUCK about him???

Side: It DOES
NomsGremlin(80) Disputed
1 point

Hmmm, is there ANYTHING that DOESN'T SUCK about him?

He took 89% more of ISIS's territory.

The DOW is booming.

Unemployment low.

Not in a war.

People getting bonuses.

Peoples' take home pay went up.

Offered 1.8 million dreamers a path to citizenship.

Revealed Obama was illegally spying on American citizens.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
joebloggs Disputed
1 point

He took 89% more of ISIS's territory.

If you seriously believe this wacko ISIS cult isn't being largely controlled by Israeli intelligence then you're an idiot.

Israeli Website Claims ISIS Commander Revealed As Mossad Agent

https://www.mintpressnews.com/isis-commander-captured-libya-revealed-mossad-agent/231863/

Side: It DOES
1 point

The DOW is booming

Unemployment low

Peoples' take home pay went up

When that happened under Obama, Trump called it fake news...

Side: It DOES
1 point

Revealed Obama was illegally spying on American citizens.

No, revealed that Carter Page, who had previously given information to Russian spies, and had a previous FISA warrant before any dossier and before Trump ran for office, was again surveilled, and that the trigger for his investigation was information provided to the FBI by Australia who got it from a person in the Trump campaign.

And, revealed that Page wasn't surveilled while working for the campaign - proving his claims of being spied on to be another false statement.

Side: It DOES
1 point

Offered 1.8 million dreamers a path to citizenship.

He says he wants this, but is only willing to offer it with many strings attached.

Side: It DOES
AlofRI(3084) Clarified
1 point

Russia took 89% of ISIS's territory THAT WAS LEFT after Iraqi's and others ASSISTED by American Spec. Ops and airpower took nearly ALL of "their territory" that they had acquired BEFORE Trump.

The Dow is "booming"? (It has been since 2009). Today it's leaking some of Trumps hot air.

Unemployment has been low for about 4 yrs now.

Not in war? Putin has taken over the "spoils". Ever hear of Afghanistan??

People are getting bonuses because unemployment is low. a few tenths of a point since Obama left. He brought it down about 6 points+. Companies have to keep (or lure) workers somehow.

Pay went up? Again, they have to keep (or lure), somehow.

Has thrown out several "Dreamer" bi-partisan plans. An "offer" by Trump has historical habits of being thrown out .. daily. They mean NOTHING until he signs them.

A VERY partisan, VERY political "piece of paper" with conveniently partisan "alternate facts" attempted to show illegalities. Not much luck there!

Side: It DOES
2 points

He is fucking poor people in the ass to get that money that he worships.

Side: It DOES

In the case of Friday and today, it will probably rebound since it is likely just the market feeling out the new Fed Chair.

However, future downturns will likely be ascribed to Trump since Trump himself claims the connection.

And, he won't be able to blame Yellen for the dips that correspond to Fed interest rate hikes since it is now a Republican Fed Chair appointed by him.

In reality, the market responds to lots of forces - some are controlled by Congress and the President, others aren't.

Side: It DOES
1 point

Duh, what do you think he was elected for?

The whole point of the presidential office is that we need a national scapegoat... I think it is a very convincing position that the guy in charge of the vast majority of all the ammunition should blamed for whatever goes wrong. No, not the guy with ammunition.. Not the guy with a lot of ammunition.. I mean The commander and chief of the armed forces.

I mean, you all really want Hillary Clinton to take the blame? She has no idea what is going on, she hardly has an original thought in her head. She's carted around and told exactly what she is supposed to do and say. Nobody except the cruelest of cruel would ever want her in the white house in charge of being blamed for everything. She should be in a home, or jail, or something. Anywhere but the presidential office!

Donald Trump. I mean... Look at this guy, come on. He's been groomed up his whole life to do this right. He may not be the national scapegoat everyone wanted, but he's the national scapegoat everyone needs. If he does end up taking a big fall on account of the fact that The United States can't get its broccoli in order, I think he can pull it off with dignity. I'm sure plenty are banking on him pulling some despot business, but I don't see him as being interested in that.

I'm rooting for the American people. I hope they can shake off all this mind control and get back to God.

Side: It DOES

I wasn't even surprised when I saw the news. Anyone could have predicted this; record high stocks are almost always followed by massive falls.

It's exactly what happened before the Great Depression. Stocks were high right before the crash.

Side: It DOES
4 points

No, a falling DOW must mean Obama was up to something. Because even though Obama got no credit for economic upturns during his Presidency he'll definitely be blamed for any alleged legacy of downturns... duh

Side: Trump can do no wrong
outlaw60(15501) Disputed
1 point

Diaper Boy tell me all about the economic upturns under the Obama Regime !

Side: It DOES
2 points

If the DOW is high, & it is, then he's doing well. It's normal for the market to go up and down.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
2 points

Trump is fucked, just like everyone else. A goyim and his shekels are soon parted. Trust a Zion banker and this is what you get. END THE FED

Side: Trump can do no wrong

Not if a declined DOW is still higher than any DOW during Obama. People sold and put into bonds because of how high the market got. They finally blinked and sold.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
1 point

Nomsgremlin, Joebloggs and Angeloftruth are all nomenclature alts. I know this because I am a nomenclature alt pretending to be a factmachine alt.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
1 point

I am nomenclature's cat. I got loose in the office again. That's why the IP address is the same.

Side: It DOES