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If gun owners can't take on the government, how'd the Autonomous Zone happen?

Wizards

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Witches

Side Score: 22
2 points

If gun owners can't take on the government, how'd the Autonomous Zone happen?

They have no interest in answering questions or being logical. They have an interest in winning, and since they know they can't, they are trying to create the illusion of chaos, hoping people are too stupid to know who is creating the chaos. It's not gonna work. The left just keeps doubling down on crazy while the Independents have to face right to not go blind...

Side: Wizards
1 point

It really is quite simple.

Check out the so called Free Derry Corner of the seventies in Londonderry, Northern Ireland when the ruthless and murderous I.R.A., declared it as such.

When the people realized they they were virtual prisoners within their own districts they pushed back against the vicious and merciless, so called Irish Republican Army.

At this point under the code name of 'Motorman the Royal Ulster Constabulary with the help of other divisions of the security forces moved in, removed the barricades and expunged the area of the terrorist filth.

The residents welcomed the return of a semblance of law and order and were delighted to see their streets being patrolled by the non-partisan, even handed ROYAL ULSTER CONSTABULARY.

The knowledge gained from this historical event is;- ''give the filth enough rope and they'll hang themselves''.

Side: Wizards
1 point

It's time for the high-tech corporations based in Seattle to TELL the city fathers to get their house in order.

Side: Wizards
Rusticus(810) Disputed
1 point

"It's time for the high-tech corporations based in Seattle to TELL the city fathers to get their house in order."

And that's called fascism, but of course you know that. Obviously you're a big fan.

Side: Witches
Booka(31) Disputed
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"It's time for the high-tech corporations based in Seattle to TELL the city fathers to get their house in order."

And that's called fascism, but of course you know that. Obviously you're a big fan.

Seattle is Fascist? Well duh. They've let Fascists take over parts of their city and destroy minority businesses, all while blacks tell us Seattle is systematically racist.

Plus Giovanni Gentile, the father of fascism was a Marxist idealist.

Side: Wizards
1 point

A terrorist is a terrorist. is a terrorist.

The IRA.

The U.V.F.

The P L O.

The B.L M.

The Taliban, and countless other murder squads ARE ALL TARRED WITH THE SAME BRUSH.

Side: Wizards
3 points

A terrorist is a terrorist. is a terrorist.

Nah. Ninety percent of domestic terrorism is caused by white nationalists. Whiteys need to learn to live like civilised human beings instead of the racist thugs they are. Isn't that what you were saying yesterday about the "blackies", like the idiotic racist lunatic you are?

Side: Witches
Booka(31) Disputed
1 point

Nah. Ninety percent of domestic terrorism is caused by white nationalists

You've never responded to articles where the British government says the number one terrorist threat is Islam.

You ignored all terrorism in Asian, Middle Eastern, South American and/or African countries. You also left out that most of the world's population is overwhelmingly not white.

You just made up that number. I challenge you to provide a link backing up your bogus statistic.

Side: Wizards
Rusticus(810) Disputed
1 point

"A terrorist is a terrorist. is a terrorist.

The IRA.

The U.V.F.

The P L O.

The B.L M.

The Taliban, and countless other murder squads ARE ALL TARRED WITH THE SAME BRUSH."

You left out your favorite, the KKK.

And all the other radical right wing white power orgs you love which account for THE VAST MAJORITY OF TERRORISM IN THIS COUNTRY

Side: Witches
Tanked(109) Disputed
2 points

And all the other radical right wing white power orgs

The Neo Nazis are headed by an Obama voter who attended Occupy Wallstreet. David Duke has praised Tlaib, Omar and Tulsi Gabbard. Are you saying the left is far right? By your definitions, I'd agree with you.

Side: Wizards
3 points

The CHAZ hardly constitutes taking on the government. It was a very limited and politically strategic concession by the government. If it posed any substantive threat to the perpetuity of the government at large, then it would have actually met resistance and failed. The government will wait for the occupation to fatigue, dwindling in numbers and conviction, and then it will move in to resume control if that's even needed. This won't be remembered as a reverse Waco or reverse Ruby Ridge. Lmao.

Side: Witches
1 point

"This won't be remembered as a reverse Waco or reverse Ruby Ridge. Lmao."

Wow, for once you make sense. I'm really impressed. But one part you forgot to mention is that the weather in Seattle right now is the best it will be all year. When October comes the vast majority of these idiots will slink back to their mothers basements. Don't get me wrong, I'm in agreement on many of their issues, I just don't like what they're doing there. I despise anarchists and those morons are a big part of this problem. I'm all in favor of peaceful protest but that's almost impossible now with provocateurs coming from both directions, both the radical right and left. Well meaning people trying to have a peaceful protest can almost count on a provocateur from one side or the other throwing a bottle or a rock at a cop and then the cops over-react and violence takes over. I despise violent radicals. It's the protestors who are trying to be non-violent that are the victims here like the 74 year old man in Buffalo NY that the thug cops knocked to the concrete. The one Trump said 'fell harder than he was pushed".

Nice that we finally have a president who's bringing the country together eh? What an asshat.

Side: Witches
BurritoLunch(6566) Clarified
1 point

I despise anarchists

That's interesting. I've never considered myself an anarchist, but I'm surprised by your hatred for them.

That said, most of the anarchists I've met in my life have been idiots.

Side: Wizards
Jace(5222) Disputed
1 point

I'm all in favor of peaceful protest but that's almost impossible now with provocateurs coming from both directions, both the radical right and left. [...] The one Trump said 'fell harder than he was pushed".

You are overlooking the original and most significant provocateurs: government officials and law enforcement leadership. The original protest in Minneapolis, MN was strictly peaceful until law enforcement officers opened fire on them with flash bangs and chemical weapons. They continued to escalate the protests, and that the violence did not become more widespread was significantly a consequence of numerous peaceful protesters controlling their ranks (including, among them, the anarchists you so despise).

Nice that we finally have a president who's bringing the country together eh? What an asshat.

We can agree that the POTUS is an asshat. Although I'd say that that's a fairly common feature among those who hold that office, whereas you seem to cleave to the belief that there can be a good POTUS.

Side: Wizards
Jace(5222) Disputed
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Wow, for once you make sense. I'm really impressed.

Lol wut, am I supposed to be flattered.

But one part you forgot to mention is that the weather in Seattle right now is the best it will be all year. When October comes the vast majority of these idiots will slink back to their mothers basements.

I didn't forget to mention it; I just didn't see the need to enumerate the obvious reasons that their numbers will dwindle.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in agreement on many of their issues, I just don't like what they're doing there. I also despise anarchists and I suspect they're right in the middle of this situation.

Why do you not like what they are doing there and why do you despise anarchists.

Currently editing in response to edits to your remark.

Side: Wizards

There was no mention of them taking the area using guns.

Side: Witches
Booka(31) Disputed
1 point

INSIDE SEATTLE’S AUTONOMOUS ZONE, PRO-GUN LEFTISTS PROVIDE SECURITY

https://coffeeordie.com/seattle-autonomous-zone-security/

Side: Wizards
Booka(31) Disputed
0 points

There was no mention of them taking the area using guns.

1)Then how did they back down the police?

2)Then why are they sporting guns?

3)If they took an area without guns, imagine what armed, military-trained and hunting trained patriots could do if they chose to revolt.

2 shot, 1 dead in violence inside Seattle protest zone

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1231655

Meet the Gun Club Patrolling Seattle’s Leftist Utopia

https://www.thedailybeast.com/seattles-capitol-hill-autonomous-zone-chaz-has-armed-guards

Side: Wizards
1 point

After the response to protests on Sunday night the mayor thought the best way to deescalate was to remove the barriers and the police cleared precinct.

Not because the protesters used guns.

Groups like PSJBGC showed up later to ward off white-supremacists

Side: Witches
Booka(31) Disputed
0 points

CHOP does have armed guards, but weapons are concealed

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mynorthwest.com/1942226/chaz-armed-guards/amp/

Seattle ‘Autonomous Zone’ Imposes Border Control And ID Checks, Celebrates Guns

https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/15/seattle-autonomous-zone-imposes-border-control-and-id-checks-celebrates-guns/

Side: Wizards
1 point

how'd the Autonomous Zone happen?

Appeasement. .

Side: Witches