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Debate Score:50
Arguments:27
Total Votes:64
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If homosexuality is biological & fine, why isn't being Conservative biological & fine?

It is fine

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Liberals need to accept Conservatives just like they have accepted everyone else. Especially since there are a ship load of Conservatives and they have plenty of guns ;)

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Hello c:

Dick sucking and right wingerism ARE comparable, aren't they?

DUDE!

excon

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6 points

Come now Con. Gays can't help how they feel but we Republicans can? Now we know you either don't believe the "gays are biologically built this way" narrative, or you are refusing us the right to our biological makeup.

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NumberOne(442) Disputed
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Come now Con. Gays can't help how they feel but we Republicans can?

You could literally defend Jeffrey Dahmer with that logic.

Gtfo.

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I won't say that it it's impossible to feel naturally homosexual, but I know people who used to be straight and are now gay. I also don't believe both of these things are exactly the same, but to some extent you can switch political parties and can switch sexual preference.

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Because politics on the whole is really stupid, and people rarely have enough charity to actually get together and accomplish things.

The lack of charity is what is driving things apart into extremes, that is what I think.

Does anyone actually know what a conservative or liberal is anymore, or has the satire become the reality? Are we all just looking at caricatures?

My faith is not in politics, and one of the things that really solidifies this is how disgusting the political arena is. When all debate has been squashed, what is the point anymore? My faith is in God. I can live with other people's bad decisions. Indeed, we all have to.

It's only going to get worse. Do you all see how pervasive surveillance is these days? How everything is being tracked, recorded, and saved? The politics of the future is going to be raunchy, that's what I think. It's going to get really bad.

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Homosexuality is a biological condition, whereas conservative/moderate/liberal is a choice of where to fall along a spectrum and in fact differs from topic to topic instead of being one simple absolute categorization.

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Homosexuality is a biological condition, whereas conservative/moderate/liberal is a choice of where to fall along a spectrum and in fact differs from topic to topic instead of being one simple absolute categorization

Bwahahahaha! So wanting to gobble a knob is biological but patriotism is not? Explain further grenache. A gay man can't choose how he feels or thinks but I can? Why am I the magic unicorn here?

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NumberOne(442) Disputed
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Bwahahahaha! So wanting to gobble a knob is biological but patriotism is not?

Oh God, you're just SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO stupid.

How can patriotism be biological you impossibly dumb fuck?

Are babies going to know which country they are in if you don't tell them?

Are they going to know which sex they are attracted to if you don't tell them?

Your theory that babies are born with an innate sense of geographical borders is -- how shall I put this -- shaky.

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Grenache(6103) Clarified
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"gobble a knob" and "magic unicorn" sound like you were biologically destined for BOTH homosexuality and conservatism.

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marcusmoon(586) Disputed
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Grenache,

...conservative/moderate/liberal is a choice of where to fall along a spectrum and in fact differs from topic to topic instead of being one simple absolute categorization.

You are absolutely correct about the complexity and multidimensionality of the categorization, but I am not entirely sure that there is no biological component.

Consider:

- 1 - There is a neuro-biological basis for a predisposition to like and accept new things, and this has been tested in people of all ages, including infants. IN GENERAL, conservatives tend to be less neophiliac than liberals (on the American political spectrum.) This would tend to support an argument in favor of a biological predisposition toward conservatism or liberalism.

- 2 - There is a similar neuro-biological basis for a predisposition to orient more toward feelings/emotions in some people, or more toward logic/reason in others. (This even seems to change with age.) Those who orient naturally to place more value in feelings tend toward the liberal side of the spectrum.

IN GENERAL, people in the part of the American spectrum called conservative have a tendency to orient toward solutions that (regardless of the information or values they are based on) are based on reason to a greater degree than on feelings.

By the same token, IN GENERAL, people in the part of the American spectrum called liberal have a tendency to orient toward solutions that (regardless of the information or values they are based on) are based on feelings to a greater degree than on reason.

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Obviously, these are gross generalities.

Obviously, as you pointed out, the complexity of what we mean by conservative muddies the whole thing even more.

However, I would definitely support the proposition that being conservative or liberal is related to biological factors.

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Grenache(6103) Clarified
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OK, I could give you the possibility of a biological component. But yet people are known to change political orientation over time. If anything, the evidence probably leads to as people grow older many are biologically predisposed to become conservative, as opposed to that they're wired one way or another from birth. But even then it doesn't answer why you have Ginsburg and Kennedy's and such who tended more liberal as they aged, bucking the trend.

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