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If it's sooo bad, in times of trouble, why do we reach for socialism and NOT capitalism?
For the last hundred years capitalists and monarchs have gotten away with misleading the public about socialism because they are the ones who ultimately control how information is framed. But simple common sense alone stipulates that, if the people presently raping the system while everybody else struggles say it's bad, then it's probably good. Good for you. Not good for them.
Because governments naturally gravitate to authoritarianism during a crisis.
Authoritarianism has got nothing to do with socialism you ridiculously annoying political extremist imbecile. The capitalist US government funded and protected countless third world authoritarian governments during the 1970s and 1980s (i.e. Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala etc..) purely because they were capitalist governments. Some of those countries employed government death squads to disappear dissenters in the middle of the night.
I don’t know. Isn’t social distancing the epitome of socialism?? It’s even in the name
Socialism is in the name "Nazi".
National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsiɪzəm, ˈnæt-/),[1] is the ideology and practices associated with the Nazi Party—officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP)—in Nazi Germany
I dunno.. In your zeal to prove that Nazis were socialists, you'd have us believe that everything with the word "social" in it means it's Nazi. Ridiculous..
Of course, the PROOF that they're NOT is that during WWII, the "socialists" of the Soviet Socialists Republic killed MILLIONS, and MILLIONS of Nazis... And, their supposed brothers in socialism, the Nazi motherfuckers, killed MILLIONS and MILLIONS of socialists..
But, that's proof you IGNORE.. You can't argue with people who have their own set of facts..
Of course, the PROOF that they're NOT is that during WWII, the "socialists" of the Soviet Socialists Republic killed MILLIONS, and MILLIONS of Nazis
And vice versa. What people are so quick to forget in their eagerness to believe Jews were Hitler's target group, is that the vast majority of Jews killed by Hitler were either Polish or Russian communists, and that Hitler himself had publicly vowed to wipe communism out from Europe, from pretty much his first day on the job.
But you are right that the Nazis clearly were neither socialists not communists. Proof has been given to this twat dozens of times that his claims are false but, much like you when you are wrong, he does not give a shit and carries on regardless.
I dunno.. In your zeal to prove that Nazis were socialists, you'd have us believe that everything with the word "social" in it means it's Nazi. Ridiculous
You stole my argument for why social programs aren't Socialism. How dare you.
Of course, the PROOF that they're NOT is that during WWII, the "socialists" of the Soviet Socialists Republic killed MILLIONS, and MILLIONS of Nazis...
They also allied with them prior to kill lots and lots of Capitalists. The same Capitalists that Hitler called greedy Jewish Capitalists. Both countries united to take over Poland.
And, their supposed brothers in socialism, the Nazi motherfuckers, killed MILLIONS and MILLIONS of socialists..
So did Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot. All 3 were Socialists.
Our fight is with money. Work alone will help us, not money. We must smash interest slavery. Our fight is with the races that represent money.
Speech at the hall of Zum Deutschen Reich (December 18, 1919), quoted in Thomas Weber, Becoming Hitler: The Making of a Nazi (Basic Books, 2017), p. 138. Police report of DAP meeting, SAM, DPM/6697
Since we are socialists, we must necessarily also be antisemites because we want to fight against the very opposite: materialism and mammonism… How can you not be an antisemite, being a socialist!
"Why We Are Anti-Semites," August 15, 1920 speech in Munich at the Hofbräuhaus. Translated from Vierteljahrshefte für Zeitgeschichte, 16. Jahrg., 4. H. (Oct., 1968), pp. 390-420. Edited by Carolyn Yeager. [2]
The Jews have shown real genius in profiting by politics. This capitalistic people, which was brought into existence by the unscrupulous exploitation of men, has understood how to get the leadership of the Fourth Estate into its own hands; and by acting both on the Right and on the Left it has its apostles in both camps. On the Right the Jew does his best to encourage all the evils there are to such an extent that the man of the people, poor devil, will be exasperated as much as possible— greed of money, unscrupulousness, hard- heartedness, abominable snobbishness. More and more Jews have wormed their way into our upper-class families; and the consequence has been that the ruling class has been alienated from its own people.
As quoted in A History of National Socialism, Konrad Heiden, Methuen & Company, LTD, London: UK, 1934, p. 58. Speech in April, 1922
Jews enjoy equal opportunity haters.. We got 'em from the right.. We got 'em from the left.. We got 'em from everywhere..
The left wing was literally founded by Jews you goddamned moron. The guys who murdered the Tzar and his family then took over Russia were Jews.
What you are Ex-Con, is a lying scumbag who, rather than accept the fact he is not Jewish, accuses everybody who points it out of hating Jews. The ancestry test you keep flaunting as your "proof" of Jewishness has been debunked by countless scientific experts and this has been demonstrated to you again, and again, and again. There is no genetic basis for Jewishness. Judaism is a religion and that is all Judaism is. Pointing out that fact does not make somebody a Jew hater, and you are a scumbag for ever suggesting otherwise.
Riiiiight. If you are descended from a group of people calling themselves Jews, obviously you aren't genetically related to that group of people. Excellent logic once again Nom. May I offer you a sucker? Would that be nice little one?
Jews enjoy equal opportunity haters.. We got 'em from the right.. We got 'em from the left.. We got 'em from everywhere..
True. Looks like regardless of where you try to attach a wing, the Jew haters in this forum, are burritolunch the Socialist poochy boy.
Been that way for 6,000 years..
True.
Gonna be that way for the next 6,000 years..
Nah. We dropped the atomic bomb in the 1940s. Future generations will drop something worse, that is, if Coronavirus's future kids don't take us out first.
"Why," I asked Hitler, "do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party programme is the very antithesis of that commonly accredited to socialism?"
"Socialism," he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, pugnaciously, "is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.
Socialism is the Theme of the Left but why do you idiots need mask and medicine to fight the Red China Virus. Don't be confused stupid just speak your stupidity.