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When you challenge someone personally, it's because you want to share opinions between two individuals, without interference. A reason that normally causes banning, is offensive behavior and language that detracts from the topic. If someone is so hellbent on insulting the debate creator, that they can't actually arrange a good argument, a temporary ban may be necessary.
You're not as innocent as you portray yourself though.
Objectively, banning should always be an option, but from what I read (which is what this debate is really about) you were not justified, you were just being emotional. Don't take this personally, but if you didn't want to read what she was going to write, you should have steered clear of debating with her personally.
Yes I am actually. I am the target of slander. I have been falsely accused of being a liar and a Satanist. I have every right to attack people who abuse me. Holy fuck, I wish Prodigee was here.
If you knew slander was all you would get opening a private debate with a person is just taunting yourself and them. You've even said it before two wrongs don't make a right, so in attacking him (lol) you were not in the clear, you were also at fault.
Bull. I do not have to tolerate slander. I do not deserve this. I do not give one single fuck about what two wrongs make. I am so God damn sick and tired of slander. I am not a liar. I am not a Satanist. I am so bloody God damn sick and tired of being targeted for this shit. Maybe I should make everyone happy and just leave the bloody faith since no one believes me anyway.
Too true, no one should. No one should have to put up with name calling, insults, ad hominem, or any other kind of argumentative attack. Yet, no one would subject themselves to it. You made the debate did you not? Knowing ahead of time (whether it's true or not) that slander was all he is capable of.
I agree with the idea you are putting forth, but I think the debate creator should only have the option to delete the debate, not leave it open, but where only they can comment. It defeats the entire purpose of a debate.
Temp bans might work, but they should be controlled by the site, like a temp ban button that bans the person for three hours. If the debate creator needs to use it more than once then they might as well delete the debate.
I agree with this, but the option to put a temporary close on should still be available. Just in case the creator of the debate feels you need time to cool off, so they can reopen the discussion at a later date when emotions aren't so high and tensions aren't so tight.
Also specifically in this case, a temporary ban, allows anyone who's lashing out (creator or visitor) to have a cool down moment. I guess what she was doing was venting, and maybe the debate can be reopened later when she's less emotional.
Personal note to you. It's not worth it. She's odd, in how she becomes emotionally attached to each debate. Ex. We had a slavery debate where I was in favor, and she compared me to Hitler, and refused to answer my questions, and overall took it personally.
The shear fact regarding the amount you lie, as well as your name choice leads me to believe you are a Satanist. I personally believe you are working for Satan with the intent to lead gays to Hell based on some of the arguments (namely the ones about your claim the Christian god permits homosexual sex as well as other misrepresentations of the Bible). This is you calling me a Satanist and a liar. Ding, motherfucker, ding.
So what? You are the most retarded person I have yet to see on this side. You sit in your computer dungeon living your pathetic life, living on a diet of cheeseburgers, coke and benzos, and for fun you either troll or masturbate. You are wreckless piece of garbage, and no one will miss you if you stop coming to this side. I don't care what is wrong with you, but it is making you waste your time, writing unconstructive bullshit and covering up your shallow and idiotic points with bad rhetoric.
Oh by the way, that is just my personal beliefsso you can't use it against me. ;)
I can have have constructed arguments supporting my claim that she is leading homosexuals to Hell. It is just my personal opinion that she is doing it under the guidance of Satan, this is mainly because of the name she chose, the astonishing amount she lies, and a slip up on a comment where I believe she was referring to herself as a Satanist, but am not sure, she edited the quote to just two periods. None of that really matters though, just as is true for your personal beliefs, they don't have to be rooted in reality for you to hold them.
I'm not sure why you think it would be hypocritical for me to judge you, I never claimed my personal beliefs protected me from judgement. You should spend more time reading what people say, Dana has the same problem, she "misunderstands" a lot too.
Maybe you should too. She is tired of you calling her a Satanist. Then you dispute her by saying that it's just your opinion. I am telling you that saying so doesn't change the fact that you called her a Satanist, and to that you are responding by reiterating that it's just an opinion.
Whether it's a universal truth or an opinion not rooted in reality is irrelevant, the circumstances around you calling her a Satanist can't change the fact that you did it. How can you even propose otherwise?
There is a difference in definition between stating something as fact, and stating something as opinion, you cannot equate the the second to the first.
I will freely admit to claiming I believe her to be a Satanist, I still do, but never did I state it as a fact. You can assert that they are the same thing, but you would be wrong.
You kept calling me an unbeliever. I do not deserve to be called a Satanist. how very Christian of you to support people calling me a Satanist when I am not.
I believe in God, yet I don't believe in the bible. It has been translated hundreds of times, kings have removed entire books because they went against what the king was trying to accomplish, e.t.c The bible today is not how it was when it was written. The fact that I believe that doesn't make me an unbeliever.
I have done challenge debates with her in the past, but only when i am the debate creator. I just do not trust her with the authority to ban me without any other reason than i made a argument she does not want to hear.
No, I think it is childish to ban someone from a debate you start with them. What is the point of anyone entering a debate if the other person bans them if they don't like what they say, or when they have been proven wrong.
Holy crap. From the distance I'm sitting from my monitor, you looked like a female. Not a dis, just saying, I've been calling you 'she' and 'her' this whole time.
No worries, it is my responsibility to clearly present my gender, it isn't your fault I picked a picture where my manly beard turns into the under-neck shadow of what I will only assume was a very attractive female. xP
Should someone challenged to a debate have the option of being banned?
No.
I asked for was evidence that I abused her and when she realized she couldn't provide any, rather than be honest, she just banned me.
This isn't exactly the picture I was getting when I read through that thread. Sitara was astonished that you actually asked for evidence, but then she gave you some. You then started defending yourself by employing empty words like 'It's just my opinion, doesn't mean it's a fact', to which my response would be "OH REALLY?". It's blatantly obvious that you called her a Satanist, so exactly what were you doing in that debate?
Let me tell you what happened. She was trying to cooperate with you, and then you figured you could to have fun at her expense.