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If there were no Roman Empire, would there be "Latin language group"?

South-European languages like French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, etc. are belonged to Latin language group because ancient Romans expanded their empire and forced people of these regions to speak Latin, so Latin had greatly influenced these languages and therefore Latin language group had been formed. If the empire didn't expand, what language group would these languages have belonged to?

Yes.

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No.

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Most likely yes. While we still don't know how and when Latin was spoken by the Romans, it was by no means a Roman invention, at best it was a language that was adopted in some shape or form from Grecian and the proto-canaaite alphabet. It's older than 1050 BC where as the time frame for the founding of Rome is roughly 753BC.

Basically there was already a Latin language group before the Romans absorbed it, they just changed it to what was called Vulgar Latin.

Side: Yes.
Impirum(258) Clarified
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I know that Latin emerged long before Roman Empire was established. I am asking if languages in France, Spain, etc. were still belonged to Latin language group before the empire expanded. (You have said that there had been a Latin language group, but you haven't said if the members of Latin group was similar to present, like, was the languages, e.g. in ancient Gaul, belonged to Latin language group?)

Side: Yes.
Mint_tea(4647) Clarified
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Language is always evolving, even now there are words and phrases that have been condensed or have new meaning so it's hard to say if the Spanish we know now would be the same if the Roman Empire didn't exist. Having said that, even the Spanish that we know now changes with different inflection and dialect depending on the region. The Roman culture and language was heavily influenced by the Etruscan's whose language was unique but used the Greek alphabet which was Latin in origin.

So it's difficult to say with 100 percent accuracy if the language would be exactly the same now if Rome hadn't absorbed it but there would more likely than not still be a Latin language group that would have similarities without Roman influence.

Side: Yes.
Impirum(258) Clarified
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I know that Latin emerged long before Roman Empire was established. I am asking if languages in France, Spain, etc. were still belonged to Latin language group before the empire expanded. (You have said that there had been a Latin language group, but you haven't said if the members of Latin group was similar to present, like, was the languages, e.g. in ancient Gaul, belonged to Latin language group?)

Side: Yes.
Impirum(258) Clarified
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Since it was not invented by Romans, which nation had invented it?

Side: Yes.
Impirum(258) Clarified
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Sorry for asking again. Since it was not invented by Romans, which nation had invented it?

Side: Yes.
Mint_tea(4647) Clarified
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" The Roman culture and language was heavily influenced by the Etruscan's whose language was unique but used the Greek alphabet which was Latin in origin."

Side: Yes.

I'm by no means an expert, but it seems fairly straightforward that if the Romans invented Latin and they were removed from history then Latin would go with them.

Side: No.
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I'm by no means an expert

There's a surprise...

but it seems fairly straightforward that if the Romans invented Latin and they were removed from history then Latin would go with them.

Cool. So basically the goal of socialists. Kill cultures.

Side: Yes.
Impirum(258) Clarified
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So what language group would these languages belong to then? Almost every language is belonged to a certain language group.

Side: Yes.
BurritoLunch(6607) Clarified
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So what language group would these languages belong to then? Almost every language is belonged to a certain language group.

Whichever group they would belong to if the Latin influence was removed, I guess.

Side: Yes.