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If you are religious, you can no longer be considered scientifically challenged

Under the new rules of this site, as being negotiated by its members, you can no longer be classified as being scientifically challenged just because you believe in God.  The intent of this rule is to minimize generalizations. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.   ;)

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I love this new rule. I can no longer be considered scientifically challenged by anyone on this site. It's kinda like reverse political correctness. Reverse because for once the rules favor a conservative view ;)

Side: True
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Oh I can still consider you scientifically challenged, just not purely on the basis of your religion, or any other generalization. If you said, for example, that dinasours and humans roamed the earth together, and had no evidence to support this claim (The Flnstones don't count) I would still laugh at you.

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TERMINATOR(6781) Disputed
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I wouldn't.

Indeed, I would most likely be the one to make that claim.

A prominent subdivision of Forteanism is cryptozoology; there have been innumerable claims of sightings: plesiosaurs, pterodactyls; there was a legend in the Congo area of a gigantic lizard - can't recall what came of it but, as I recall, it was never disproved.

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http://www.subversiveelement.com/CongoDinosaur.html

http://www.mokelembembe.com/

http://www.1timothy4-13.com/files/bible/ dino.html

http://www.unmuseum.org/mokele.htm

Side: True

Surely AndSoccer16 thanks you.

Side: True

Let us see if he puts his money where his mouth is ;)

I think he will. I've known him for a long time. We go way back.

Do you think that there's a conflict of interest when you have both liberal and conservative friends ;)

Side: True

Most definitely a conflict of interest. How can you bash liberals yet also be friendly with them? It's the equivalent of fraternizing with the enemy!

Side: True
1 point

I agree for the most part with this rule except one qualification: If you wish not to be bashed for your religious beliefs, don't assert them as a basis for an opinion in a scientific debate.

Side: True

Generalizations are a lot more fun. One can call others names and make no exceptions. Where's the fun in being all nice and warm inside. You guys make me sick.

Side: bring back generalizations

Don't worry. I don't think anything is gong to change ;)

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1 point

If this is true, it is not the remedy for a problem that is the result of inadequate moderation by the authors of the debates wherein we participate.

Solution:

Moderators, as responsible authors, can either A: start moderating their debates and banning the abusers therefrom, or B: lose the authorization to create debates. And thusly the enforcement of these measures shall create a debating atmosphere that is intolerant of abusive argument which is abusive for the sake of being abusive.

Furthermore, let’s not abandon the advancement of the pursuit of greater intelligence because of quasi problems with quasi solutions for the sake of quasi intelligence. And let it be known any attempt to now negate ‘hasty generalizations’ because of an uncomfortable ‘hasty generalization’ (and it is about sentiment towards certain generalizations) will lead to the slippery slope of more negations of other categories of generalizations. All of which concluding with the last generalization: There is truth!

Do we not think some truths are offensive?

But whatever is decided, take heed:

Don’t ban generalizations; ban moderators who derive some sense of pleasure from the un-restrained intellectual sadists who get their rocks off by practicing intellectual sadism. For if it is decided to ban one category of generalization, that decision sanctions intellectual sadism in all other generalizations.

(We can’t ban stupidity, but intellectual abusiveness must be moderated.)

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Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
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I agree with most of what you said, but there are some people to thick headed to get anything to register. These people need not a friendly debate, but a swift kick in the ass. Generalizations are not fair to those that are the exception, which in some cases may be the majority; but one has to use whatever means that will work. Therefore intellectual abuse is only a means to get through to those that are intellectually challenged. I would prefer to give them the kick they deserve, but words are my only weapon here.

Side: bring back generalizations

Well then...., it's probably a good thing you don't know where I live ;)

Side: True
1 point

Think of my argument like this:

Spanking is necessary, but when the spanking is insufficient for correction then ban their ass.

We can correct the tormented (lol), but let's cast the demons out even when the demon is the moderator.

Side: bring back generalizations

So are you saying we need something more like a police debate site? ;)

Side: bring back generalizations
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If I am the Chief, yes. I can differentiate betwixt necesssary abuse and blatant,unnecessary insult.

Furthermore, I am for spanking! But I also think it is prudent to recognize the process of correction even when it means appropriate ad-hominem.

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The problem with this statement is that many (or most, or all if you want to go that far) religions make explicit statements which go against common scientific knowledge. If forgoing objective proof in the name of faith isn't the clearest sign of being "scientifically challenged", the term loses it's meaning entirely.

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tallblondguy(64) Disputed
3 points

And yet in science it is freely stated that nothing can be proven completely. They used to believe the world was flat. They once said that everything that could be invented had been. Science is no more "proven" than religion.

Side: True