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If you believe you were born with sexual attractions to corpses, is it a natural thing?
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You're having a go at me, aren't you? I thought we talked about this. You say you're not judging me choices and yet you compare who I love to dead people. How does my life affect you, and why do you talk so much about sex when even I don't bring it up? You're a real piece of scum, talking like this. And I know you're doing it to make ME angry. I wonder how people like you can sleep at night. I don't ever want to hear from you again. Don't message me, don't argue in my debates, and don't EVER provoke me like this again, do you hear? Just like you'd do to your gay son, I AM DISOWNING YOU. SCATMAN do you support the OPPOSED LGBTQATS ?????????? SCATMAN you need a CRYING TOWEL you LITTLE BITCH ??????????? LMMFAO!!!!!!!!!! Let me hook up with what you need !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1
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LOL, hate to burst your bubble, but I could not care less about what you do in life. It's your business! I have made it very clear in my many debates, that I fight against the LGBT activists and their Democrat Party mouth piece, to keep them from forcing Christians and everyone else to embrace homosexuality as a natural normal sexual orientation. WE DON'T BELIEVE IT IS! We are sick of Gay activist groups taking private Christian owned businesses to court if they do not embrace Gay marriage. We are sick of Gay activist groups taking Christian Churches to court to force Gay Sunday school teachers! We are sick of this Transgender madness of forcing boys into girls sports, boys into our daughter's bathrooms, etc. etc. etc. You are a deceptive person to keep trying to bring the conversation back to POOR LITTLE YOU! It's not about you! GET OVER YOURSELF. GET OVER YOUR INSECURITIES! People don't have to agree with you. There are millions of people who do not agree with my Christian faith! They constanTly insult and ridicule me for my faith. Do I care what they think? NOT ONE BIT! I'm secure with who I am and what I believe. LIFE GOES ON! Did you notice how you were not banned from my debate? We have had many debates before and usually do not agree on every issue, but here you are! NOT BANNED! WHY IS THAT? You spew the same lies that I ban people who do not agree with me! The difference is that you are usually civil, not vulgar, not childish. You have gone off the deep edge on your response this time, but it takes more than one time to gain entrance to my ban list. I will give you another chance to address this actual debate, and tell me where you draw the line on unnatural sexual orientations, and why it's ok when you draw the line. So you're giving ME chances now? By spewing those bollocks that you're "oppressed"? That you're sick of the LGBT community "infiltrating" your good, Christian population? What if I told you I was sick of having people, white privileged males, dictating how everyone else lives their lives? By asserting that, as a Christian, you are oppressed, you inadvertently reinstitute the subordinate rank of minorities. What if I told you that you know absolutely NOTHING, not a drop about the LGBT community? I.am furious with you, but I will continue to entertain your utterly ridiculous remarks anyway. It is not me who is insecure, or confused, or unnatural. It is you! By not accepting my community into your way of life, it makes it much harder for you to get over the fact that we are normal people too. Believe me, I'm not out to harass Christians; I'm an atheist. If you met me, would the first thing you notice be that I'm gay? I hope not. I, and most of us, are so much more than our labels. And yet kids who think they are gay still commit suicide and make bad choices because they have little education about WHO they are, and how they became that way. As for drawing the line, I think that is a dangerous concept. Whether or not allowing a union between same sex couples will lead down a slippery slope to marrying a Lemming, America, and Britain to an extent, are free. If you limit liberty you deprive people of the chance to make something constructive out of the liberties they have been granted. I would look over your words carefully before you screech such offensive language when it is evident you know very little about the LGBT agenda. 1
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You did not answer why you were not banned? That is the claim from you and most other people on the Left. When you throw out deceptive accusations, admit when you are wrong! You once again distorted my position (what a shock). Tell me where I am trying to dictate how you live your life? I SPEAK OUT AGAINST LGBT activist groups forcing every State to change their marriage laws. Are you ok with adults marrying consenting children? Who are you to say it is wrong? In this no fault anything goes list of LGBT groups, why no B, or N, or P? Would you dictate that adults could not marry children, not marry animals, not keeping corpses embalmed for future sex? I guess you must be phobic if you draw the line anywhere. In this sick Liberal world, there are no longer norms for society. It's the anything goes world of new age Biology. If you have some particular fetish when it comes to sexual attractions, we as a society will embrace it and teach our children it is just fine to experiment with all types of sex. WHERE DOES IT END? Our children deserve adults who will teach them the natural scientific order to our lives. The natural design of men and women. All these other sexual orientations have no place in our biology books. You are confusing the freedom of everyone living as they choose, with Big Brother forcing everyone to embrace these sexual orientations. There in lies the reason why myself and others speak out against the indoctrination of our children to this LGBT activism. I believe we should all show respect for others, as long as they show respect for us. There is no need to flaunt diverse sexual orientations on parents who want to teach their children natural normal sexuality. Can't you grasp how it offends parents when activists try to indoctrinate our children? We also have rights! Respect ours and we will respect yours. You did not answer why you were not banned? I don't bloody know. You're the one threatening me. Tell me where I am trying to dictate how you live your life? I SPEAK OUT AGAINST LGBT activist groups forcing every State to change their marriage laws. So you can protest for something you want, but the LGBT community is not allowed to? Are you ok with adults marrying consenting children? No, I am not. Children don't have the power of consent. In this no fault anything goes list of LGBT groups, why no B, or N, or P? Because we have these things called brains and know that none of these are socially acceptable. These are way different from having an attraction to the same sex because normally B, N and P individuals are mentally ill or their brains are wired differently. LGBT people can live stable lives where they harm no one. WHERE DOES IT END? It ends when you recognise that NONE of the three initials you came up with are socially acceptable, and they most likely never will be if they aren't now. All these other sexual orientations have no place in our biology books. This is utter rubbish, and I think where we most disagree. I was never given Sex Ed; my other gay peers weren't either. When those gay men died of AIDS, your beautiful president, Mr. Reagan, simply laughed it off and ignored it. To this day, even here in the UK, sex ed is not taught to LGBT individuals because they are ashamed of us. Are you ashamed of us? Do you want us all to die of AIDS? What if we made it a choice? Either heterosexual education or homosexual education? Therefore, people like you would not have to worry about your child turning into a gay zombie with AIDS. You are confusing the freedom of everyone living as they choose, with Big Brother forcing everyone to embrace these sexual orientations. There in lies the reason why myself and others speak out against the indoctrination of our children to this LGBT activism. I will no longer listen to this argument as it is blatantly hypocritical. See above. We also have rights! Respect ours and we will respect yours. And so your country has said for many years, by firing us and ruining our lives. I lived in America once, but I left because I was scared for my life. I'm still british, never was American, never will be. 1
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We are about through here because you keep giving deceptive rhetoric which has no bearing on my responses. First off, we are not protesting to force you to embrace Christianity. CAN YOU GRASP THE DIFFERENCE? We are protesting to keep you from forcing us to embrace LGBT orientations as natural and normal. They will never be. I took Biology and listened in class. Who are you to say children don't have the power of consent? The Left supports the right of children to be taken across borders to get abortions without the parents consent! Double standards as always! Yes we all have brains, and most of us once used those brains to keep Homosexual indoctrination out our schools. Yours was the first letter in the LGBT alphabet that was politicized, and the flood gates were opened. You are saying the exact same things about B, N & P as people said about Homosexuality. Doctors said that Homosexuality was a disorder. Homosexuality was not socially acceptable as well. Remember? This is the slippery slope in action. You will someday be called a phobic when speaking out against B,N & P groups. They will take you to court for saying they are mentally ill. Whose talking about sex ed? I'm talking about the Science of Biology where it describes our bodies, how they are designed and how our sexuality is suppose to work. The first main spread of Aids was from Gays living promiscuous lifestyles. Gay swapping Parties, etc. etc. That spread into the drug community and then tainted blood supplies from those addicts in hospitals. It did not spread from lack of education. Early on they told people the risk of Gay sex and promiscuous lifestyles. People ignored the dangers. I already stated that I support non discrimination laws protecting people's jobs. I'm sickened by bullies who would harm others for being different. Like I said, my beef is with the LGBT activists who are trying to force everyone to embrace Homosexuality as a natural normal sexual orientation. It will never be so, just as you say B, N & P will never be so.. 1
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"we must continue down that slippery slope" Thanks, it really helps when you include your logic fallacy in the description... 0
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It might help if you actually explain your point. I said if we keep allowing these political activist groups to control the Democrat Party, then there is nothing to prevent the next group from becoming politically active and becoming the Democrat Party's next letter in identity politics. Once a Political Party uses sexual orientations as an election strategy to garner votes, there is no stopping it as we have witnessed for decades now. Which letter is next? N, B, P ? You say it won't happen? It is already happening! They already have groups fighting for equal rights for Pedophiles! Who would have thought the Democrat Party would actually try and force every public school to allow boys, who want to be girls, to compete in girl's sport's programs? Open your eyes. The Left has gone over the deep end with this LGBT fanaticism. It's all politics and is destroying the natural order to life. 1
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"It might help if you actually explain your point." My point is that slippery slope is a logic fallacy for a reason. Did the slippery slope start when marriage itself was created? Was it a slippery slope when we changed it from traditional arranged marriage to your cousin where "the very being or legal existence of the woman is suspended during the marriage"? Slippery slope to make it illegal for husband to beat/rape his wife? The slope isn't slippery at all - we are making conscious informed decisions which we could revert at any time. 1
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I agree, not all change is bad. We have come a long way in regards to issues such as racism (when the Democrat Party supported slavery), etc. to a time when people are learning to treat each other like they want to be treated... The Golden Rule! No person should be bullied for simply being different, and in that respect mankind has grown to more reflect the tenets of Christianity. Love, forgiveness, turn the other cheek, etc. etc. Spare me the examples of evil done by man centuries ago, in the name of Christianity. Yes, I realize the KKK call themselves a Christian group... THEY ARE NOT! God says we will know a Christian by their love. The slippery slope many times starts out with noble goals, good intelligent change, learning to love our fellow man, etc. The problem develops when corrupt Politicians, extreme groups, go far beyond the original intent of that good change. They become political, fixating on certain groups, forcing THEIR POLITICAL CORRECT IDEALS onto all people, and ignoring the right's of those who do not agree, no matter how crazy the issues might be. The noble goal of treating all innocent life with respect and love, turns into activist groups disrespecting and demonizing those who do not agree with every extreme demand. So what it will come down to is the people and who they elect. Do rational intelligent people see how the very groups who were once bullied, have become the bullies? These groups take you to court and demonize you if you do not bow to their every demand. Will people wake up and tell the Democrat Party they have gone too far with this Political Correctness? Will the people refuse to vote for them and send the message enough is enough? Trump may have been the start of the people screaming ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! The Democrat Party has yet to get it. They are going farther Left, bowing to their most extreme Liberal groups. Even Joe Biden just flip flopped and succumbed to their radical base to do away with the Hyde Amendment. 1
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For the entire history of our nation, Gay marriage had never been mandated by Big Brother, and now that activists succeeded in FORCING every State to change their marriage laws (even though the people in most States were against it), we have people talking like it has been around forever. Most of Americans did not support Gay marriage but had it forced upon them. This is why they want to take back our freedoms to disagree with Big Brother Collective. Many people were ok with each State and the people in those States deciding on their own marriage laws. If the people wanted Gay marriage, so be it. That is entirely different then a bunch of LGBT activists trying to usurp State's rights and forcing all States to capitulate to a big Federal Government's power grab. People do not hate Gays! People are sick of Gay activists! People understand what is happening with the slippery slope of this Political correct activism. Do you want every State forced to allow men to have 30 wives? Why not, this is what just happened with Gay marriage. 1
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"Gay marriage had never been mandated by Big Brother, and now that activists succeeded in FORCING every State to change their marriage laws" Ah, now I see why you are upset - you think the government is going to force YOU to get gay married. It actually just allows people who WANT to get married to do so because there is no reason not to. (You think it's icky isn't a good enough reason) Most of Americans did not support Gay marriage Incorrect. The court decision was in June 2015. As of May 2015: Favor or Strongly Favor same-sex marriage: 57% Oppose or Strongly Oppose: 39% "States deciding on their own marriage laws" Is a terrible idea. if a parent takes a child from a state that recognizes a marriage to one that doesn't, can the other parent enforce parental rights? (based on an actual case) Do they pay federal taxes as a married couple? Can a person work for the federal government and have their spouse be on their health insurance if the federal government doesn't recognize their marriage? There are lots of reasons why doing it by state is a bad idea and no good reason to block federal recognition. 1
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It's impossible for him to be nom, because nom keeps telling me how I ban anyone who disagrees. Unless of course nom is a liar. THAT CAN'T BE, CAN IT? If this is indeed nom, it proves that he can act civil when he wants to. Ban the fool every time he acts like a hateful child. He will soon learn to stop acting like an insane bigot. 1
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No State should have passed it because homosexuality is an unnatural sexual orientation. They achieved civil unions and non discrimination laws that they were supposedly after. But this was not their goal because many people today are choosing to live together rather than getting that marriage license. That marriage license was no longer needed to give them what they wanted. Their goal is to try and force all people to embrace their sexual orientation. Sorry, we took the Science of biology and understand how our bodies are designed. When you go down this path, there is no stopping it. Every group will come out of the wood work and start demanding we embrace their particular fetish, just as Transgender, Pedophiles, Bigamist, etc. are doing. 1
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the Democrat Party supported slavery Bigots supported slavery then, and support racism now. Look at the electoral map of support for Lincoln and support for Obama and succession from the union and opposition to Obama - notice anything? If you think the bigots didn't switch party (or more precisely, put their bigotry above party), you aren't paying attention. 1
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You can try to spin it any way you want. FACTS are that the Democrat Party supported Slavery and the Republican Party ended it! Today's Democrat Party still elected Robert Bird (a KKK member) into their Congress. The Democrat Party is still a racist bunch trying to keep Black people tied to Government dependence (for votes) rather than focusing on getting them jobs! Trump has created record low unemployment for Black people. That is what the GOP does! They care for all Americans, and do not worry if getting a person a job would hurt politically. The GOP is not into identity politics. They care for ALL Americans regardless your skin color, your religion, your gender, your income status, etc. etc. 1
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Today's Democrat Party still elected Robert Bird You already know that to be a disingenuous claim. Byrd had renounced the KKK for decades, voted to make Martin Luther King Jr. Day a national holiday in 1983, and became an ardent civil rights advocate. https://thehill.com/blogs/ 1
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That would be fine if we all agreed on what is considered harm. I consider even viable unborn babies being dismembered, as being harmful. I consider forcing Pro Life people to pay for abortions (which the Democrat Party is now supporting), as being harmful. I consider girls in school sport's programs, being dominated by boys who think they are girls, as harmful to their self esteem, harmful to all their sport's records, etc. As you see, not all people agree, and the Left is losing all rational intelligence when supporting these radical changes. Politics will defy all logic if it gets them elected. 1
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You should be speaking out against these activist LGBT groups because they are giving you a bad name. If you say nothing, then you are ok with what is going on. Gays need to give those who disagree respect for their beliefs. To garner respect from others, you must first give respect. Homosexuality OBVIOUSLY goes against our natural design. It's times Gay accept this fact and stop forcing other's to sanction it as natural and normal. We agree you should not be bullied and discriminated against. These issues are separate from what these activist groups are trying to do. 0
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You are showing the severe insecurities of Gays as well as people on the Left. I repeat that you are no where in my thought proceess when creating debates on these issues. I live here in America and witness every day the political power of activist LGBT groups in the Democrat Party. Every week we see articles about Drag Queens talking to our children in Libraries. We see so called Transgenders talking to our elementary schools kids about safe places for LGBT people. We see Churches being sued to allowed Gay Sunday school teachers. We see one half of our Government using these groups to garner votes. We see them trying to pass laws forcing every public school to allow boys, who think they are girls, into our daughter's sports. I create these debates to wake people up to what the Left is trying to do in this nation. I imagine there are guests who come to this debate site who will never hear the truth of what is going on. Fake news is in bed with the Left, and the people never get the entire story. I want everyone to know the activism of the Left in American's politics. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU! Ok, I won't argue anymore. I respectfully disagree, and acknowledge your right to do the same. Some of the things you say I actually agree with, like LGBT individuals being severely insecure. But we are insecure because we don't know when we'll be turned away from being a priest or kicked out of a store or attacked on the street. 0
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You are insecure because you know in your heart that Homosexuality is unnatural. PERIOD! I'm not insecure about being a Christian even though there are millions of Liberals and Gays who are intolerant of me. Why do I have no suicidal thoughts when there are hateful bigots who would kill me in a Church? The reason I am not insecure about my beliefs, is because my beliefs do not go against nature and the natural design of our bodies. Why on earth would you think you could be a Priest when the Christian faith teaches Homosexuality to be a sin? I agree you should never be kicked out of a store or attacked on the streets for being Gay. You should also be respectful of other's who do not what people to flaunt their sexuality onto our children in public. Sorry that you can not be as open with your sexuality as Heterosexuals, but we both know why that is. You can still choose to get married, have kids, even though you have attractions for the same sex. There are no perfect marriages. Many people have unnatural fetishes but this does not mean we can't enjoy married life, having a wife and kids. Sex is not everything in a marriage. LGBT activists have shamed Gay people out of the closet to enjoy a world of Aids and broken relationships. Gay relationships seldom last because two male personalities create more friction then a man and woman. You are insecure because you know in your heart that Homosexuality is unnatural. Being a Christian is unnatural. No human would ever become a Christian without other humans telling them about it, because it's a man-made religion and most people wouldn't have even heard of it until it recently spread so widely. 1
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No, my mom taught me to tell the truth. Maybe your mum should have raised you to grasp the Science of Biology rather than allowing activists tell you how to think. So do you believe everyone should act out on whatever fetish they have? Should a man who has attractions to corpses, or animals, or consenting children, act upon those desires if they became legal? Why are Gay attractions embraced as natural, but others not? 1
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I agree. I've heard that they're pushing for pedophilia to be downgraded from a crime to a disorder: 1
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