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If you don't HATE black people, but BELIEVE in your heart that they're INFERIOR,
is it still RACISM???
Hello Antrim and poochy boy:
I
can ASSURE you, you WON'T be banned from this debate.. I wanna HEAR
how you justify your hate -- or your knowledge. If you don't hate, like
I think you assert, but only cite FACT, where did you learn your
facts??
Look.. IF we can't talk about it HERE, where CAN we talk about it?? Or, would you rather call me a filthy name??
I see all races as equal, so I don't think voter ID's are racist "because minorities don't know how to get one". I see all races as equal, so I don't think blacks need affirmative action to "keep up". I see all races as equal, so I don't think minorities need for the "White man to step in". I see all races as equal, so I'm an equal opportunity offender. If I think it's true, I'll tell you what I believe the truth to be even if it's "racially sensitive". Anything less is the bigotry of low expectations. Loving black people as though they are farm animals rather than loving them as human beings, isn't love at all. It's property control.
"If you don't HATE black people, but BELIEVE in your heart that they're INFERIOR"
SUPER STUPID did i ever say i hated black people or shown them to be inferior ?
Pay real close attention because you are real DUMB !
As a matter of fact, it was Democrat President Lyndon Baines Johnson who stated, “I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years” as he confided with two like-minded governors on Air Force One regarding his underlying intentions for the “Great Society” programs.
Former President Bill Clinton tried to get former senator Ted Kennedy to endorse Hillary Clinton for president in the 2008 election by describing Barack Obama this way: "A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags."
Democrats hate black people you DUMMY and use them as political pawns !!!!!
If you don't HATE unborn babies, but BELIEVE in your heart that they're INFERIOR,
is it still inhuman???
Hello excon and all Pro choicers:
I wanna HEAR how you justify your hate -- or your knowledge. If you don't hate, like your support of abortion clearly shows, but only cite FACT, where did you learn your facts?? Planned Parenthood? The Democrat Party? Feminists? Fake news?
According to geneticists we're all just a 'paler shade of black'.
''The HUMAN GENOME PROJECT has determined unequivocally that there is the same amount of genetic variation among individuals in different racial groups''. Apparently, ''what that means is that there is no real genetic difference between blacks or whites and Asians or between any of the so called races''.
There are many so called academics, or in the case of this site pseudo academics, who try to argue that this just isn't so.
In the same way that Galileo was criticized by the Roman Catholic Church on the publication of his discoveries about the workings of the universe, so there are those who are trying to pooh pooh the conclusive findings of this scientific report which explodes the myth of racial differences.
In this context it would be foolishly 'self-detrimental' to try to assert that any group of people with which one identifies himself/herself is superior to all, or any other group.
Being willfully, and perhaps mischievously racially antagonistic as an entertaining and amusing pastime to annoy the sanctimonious, self important phonies on this site is a different thing altogether.
The fact that they didn't/couldn't provide the results of the aforementioned scientific study is self explanatory.
Being willfully, and perhaps mischievously racially antagonistic as an entertaining and amusing pastime to annoy the sanctimonious, self important phonies on this site is a different thing altogether.
Basically, you enjoy trolling. Some of us already knew.
Maybe you didn't swallow the whole elaborate charade and then again maybe you did.
I was able to pull off the pantomime because I know that there will always be those who would feel smug in making a show of being morally superior to others.
Then there is the ;-''oh poor us'' brigade who are obsessed with an irrational feeling that they are the object of collective hostility and prejudice on the part of others, a sort of self induced persecution complex.
All I had to do was act as a catalyst to former category and hey presto, they took the bait hook line and sinker.
A most satisfying outcome and well worth the effort.
People aren't wrong for bashing your racist position, whether you actually believe it or not. I did think you were racist, because your position was, but I also knew you were a troll.
So, as my reply burst your bubble you throw the rattle out of the pram and continue to believe what you want to believe.
What you've done is the standard human failing of permitting your emotions bias your interpretation of the evidence towards what you want it to be rather than what it actually is.
The point is, what you do or do not believe is totally irrelevant.
I presented the racist lure and there were some who, for reasons of puffed up self gratification, appeared like flies around a soft smoldering fresh turd on a hot day, and with uncontrollable enthusiasm picked up the gauntlet so they could be seen in glorious technicolour and wonderful cinemascope championing the cause for the world's downtrodden and persecuted.
It really is a simple process to manipulate people and have them follow the course you've set out for them.
They're all out there ready to pounce on the bait which you've provided for them.
Fascinating, shooting fish in a barrel comes to mind.
Anyway, s'nuff of all that, time to move on to my next dastardly scheme.
The only thing to attack on an internet debate site is the position. It doesn't matter if the person behind the position believes in it. So when you present garbage, and then people call it garbage, it is no trap. When you change your tone and say "haha! I'm not really racist fuckers!" It doesn't matter. No one is "caught".
It's as if you ate shit, and when we called it disgusting, you proclaim the joke to be on us because you don't actually like eating shit.
So, you too have decided to throw your rattle out of the pram and engage in using the profanities which the wording of your thread indicated you regarded with disdain.
Here you are again letting your emotions expose your true colours as the hypocrite you really are.
You realise that your predictable 'silly boy' reaction to my answer is exactly what I hoped it would be.
In fact it was the icing on the cake.
If you read the replies to the participant above, whatever his name is, you will undoubtedly recognise yourself in some of the descriptions.
So, you too have decided to throw your rattle out of the pram and engage in using the profanities
Why do you believe self-purported Nazis should not be greeted with profanities? Personally, if I had my way I would greet you with a hail of hollow bullets.
You appear to be making allegations absent of any evidence. It's a trick I am familiar with, having debated many Zio-fascists in my time. The Israeli far right learned many tricks from Hitler, no?
I think this was is pretend toughest.
People who need guns to protect themselves are the opposite of tough. Those people are weak and scared.
Very Internet-brave.
Let's summarise briefly. During the course of just over a single line, you made these false/unsubstantiated allegations:-
A) I have multiple accounts.
B) I Think I am tough.
C) But I'm only pretending.
D) It is brave to shoot people.
E) I think I am brave.
F) But I'm probably just pretending.
I have to take my hat off to you for managing to squeeze so much utter bullshit into a single line. That's impressive, Amarel. Well done.
Oh, OK. In that case you're a beak-nosed Jewish paedophile who makes a living from the child sex trade. Your grandparents were killed by Nazis and you repaid them by becoming a Nazi. Good one.
I don't know if you truly think so, but you certainly like to act it from the safest position possible, anonymity.
Thank you, but I am not exceptionally interested in the opinion/trolling of an intellectual imbecile such as yourself.
what can one conclude about someone who acts tough from the safest possible position?
They can conclude that your sneering personal attacks expose you as someone who has a two inch penis. Do you intend to make the rest of the world pay for your lack of girth forever?
That depends on context
Not unless the other guy is in a tank it doesn't.
Similarly, I don't know if you actually think it.
Strange. You seem to know everything else about me, right down to what I had for dinner yesterday evening. Or so you keep saying, anyway.
who could know at this anonymous distance?
It was your claim that I was pretending you stupid fascist goon.
I am not attacking you personally, I am attacking this internet persona of yours. Whether or not you are tough cannot be known. What is know is that you pretend to be tough online. The kind of people who pretend to be tough online aren't often tough in real life, are you an exception? Tell us who you are and we can be the judge tough guy.
Strange. So you know that I ate, but you don't know what I ate? Did something suddenly obstruct your view?
I am not attacking you personally
That is precisely what you are doing you fascist imbecile. You attacked me with a series of completely false allegations and presented them all as though you were presenting facts. You are more dishonest than Hitler, less intelligent than Napoleon, and more irritating than Pee Wee Herman.
I can't attack you tough guy, I don't know you. Which is the point.
All I know is this pretend character you have online. I know how that online character acts. He acts tough. Since it is impossible to know you personally, or to know if you are putting up a false front, it is a fact that it is the safest front possible. To act tough from the safest of positions has certain implications. Implications that can only be proven or denied by the fact of who you are. But then, telling us that would remove from your position some degree of safety.
I can't attack you tough guy, I don't know you. Which is the point.
Your point isn't a point. It's another absurd lie, contrary to common sense and empirically disproved by many things, including Jack the Ripper and war.
You must know a character to engage in a character attack. I haven't attacked you by name. I can't. All I know of you is the fictional tough sounding characters you create online.
If my attack on your pretend online characters hurts your real life feelings, the a real life personal problem.
For a physical attack I would still need to know more than I currently do.
You implied that I was referring to physical attacks. But that was after you said "your sneering personal attacks expose you". Non-physical personal attacks are character attacks tough guy. Are you thousandin1?
You implied that I was referring to physical attacks.
No I didn't. Stop lying for once in your pathetic life. You were referring to attack generally. That is what your language said, despite your desperation to change it after the fact.
Go away. You are almost as stupid as bronto, and every bit as dishonest.
Jack the Ripper and war prove that you can physically attack someone you don't personally know. Of course this point of yours was following your comment about personal attacks that I was actually responding to.
And of course none of this changes that, via the internet, you present a tough character. Which is perfectly safe for you to do.
Jack the Ripper and war prove that you can physically attack someone you don't personally know
1) No, they prove you can attack someone by harassing them, making up lies about them (wartime propaganda), raping them, killing them, lowering their morale and bombing their supply lines.
2) Nobody has made any contrast between physical attacks and non-physical attacks except you. Hence, you are attacking your own argument, which happens to be a red herring and nothing to do with the conversation we were having.
3) You are engaged in the fruitless exercise of chasing lost ego points. Stop it. You're an idiot.
1) You took your original, almost clever, deflection and turned it into an utterly irrelevant jumble. No one here is harassing, raping, killing, or bombing you.
2) You're right, it does have nothing to do with our original argument. If me pointing out that you often pretend at being tough makes you feel attacked, physically or personally, that really is beside the point.
3) The only one here who cares about points is you tough guy.
If you don't HATE black people, but BELIEVE in your heart that they're INFERIOR. Now make your insane tie in to guns with the heading of the post ! Talk about crazy you are the poster child of crazy.
Whereas the facts of the evidence was compliled by one of what race?
Do you know i also have scientific, historical etc evidence to prove whites are inferior to blacks? We can start from the English we speak, to origin of man, schooling, Technology, Melanin, Physical strength and correlate it natural selection survival of the fittest and on and on and on and on..........
Racism really got into my head when i came to Createdebate especially when i met the dispicable irish.
Why would I ask a reasonable question if I was Dermot?
am just playing along and am racist?
You are asking me the question I asked you.
Do you see my profile picture?
Pablo Escobar? What?
Do you know how long it's been there?
What does it matter?
no more replies
The first one was so great.
Look man. You claim that reason you believe black people are superior is based on facts. But, by the definition of racism simply believing you are superior is a racist. Do you think that if your belief is based on undeniable facts that the definition of racism doesn't apply to you?
I reply because you dissed dermot( yourself) if that is another trick.
Excon sets the thing going and i go round the thing. Don't point fingers at me for playing along but at the originator of the game instead.
Pablo is kinda white. am a fan and of many other whites who made their names great. Abraham lincoln, newton, lord kelvin, churchill, kennedy, trump, da vinci, Adele, Robin thicke, lionel messi, drake etc... I can't be racist if i don't see them for their skin's colour.
I never said i believe blacks are superior to whites. I said IF whoever can conjure facts to prove the opposite, i too can do the same to make blacks superior which i did in a few minutes(as a good song writer i am....quicking thinking and conjuring).
Do you know i also have scientific, historical etc evidence to prove whites are inferior to blacks? We can start from the English we speak, to origin of man, schooling, Technology, Melanin, Physical strength and correlate it natural selection survival of the fittest and on and on and on and on..........
Then you said ....... I never said blacks are superior to whites ?
You did as above in your own words making you as everyone knows a liar as well as a racist
You say whites are inferior to blacks and attempt to support your claim with a ridiculous statement that makes no sense at all .
This makes you the racist as you deem whites inferior and then further display your nasty racism by branding the Irish despicable ; when you first came onto C D you called whites pigs and called the Irish drunken Irish pigs , hilariously you attempt to play the victim card as you seem to think your hatred of whites is acceptable and not racist because you're black and that makes it just fine to hate whites doesn't it ?
When i was 11 i had a white german friend. We were close neighbours. We went out and played together even sometimes in my room and i knew no colour politics then.
Age 13i entered a new missionary sent white pastor's church. The pastor and i were friends aswell as his 3 kids.
I was at his house sometimes. Played games with his last born gameboy and pc games. His second wanted to be a boxer and called me on match(we played), I played pool with pastor at home(ok that was once and i won). His wife conversed with me at times.I knew no colour politics.
He left after a few years a second pastor was white but no relationship was built because i had to go to a boarding school.
At school had a wicked indian priest also my religious and morals class teacher. Many disliked him, he looked funny to me so i didn't hate him. i knew no colour politics.
I heard of banana thrown balotelli(a Ghanaian) i thought it was a funny situation and just harmless teasing and even thought he overreacted to take a gun to the stadium as a threat.
Last year in college i had a white lecturer. Didn't pay particular attention to her words and behaviour till i met dermot on CD. He thought me all about racism and made realise how real it was. The following semester when i started paying attention to the lecturer..... .i got some confirmation(though she is married to a black man). I started African studies class to learn some history and everything became very clear.
Still polite towards em'. i began to notice the behaviour on the streets i used to not see right infront of me.
wow.
Still i apply for additional online courses eg; hacking, software programming(Still a crawling baby) with white and blue tutors i don't mind.
Recently Another Ghanaian player suffered the same racism in a game.
I don't play victim. I will never be a victim i will always attack back even to the point of casualty. I have never been bullied and it doesn't start now or ever. i only talk about colours where the platform is set. Like right now and yes i have ammunition in my arsenal.
I call for it on demand as excon demands here
Dermot everyone knows you are a compulsive liar and good at twisting stories. This is not the opportunity to use the same old trick to get people to like you. Even if any agrees with you, he is careful not to blindly follow your words because today its me you using the trick on tomorrow will be him.
What a long babbling ramble which no doubt makes sense to you but is just your usual long winded reply too avoid backing your racist claims up ; I note your failure to address any of the other challenges to your assertions and surprise , surprise you have no defence yet again .
Here is what I actually stated and you failed to address because you're a racist and seem to rather proud to be one , whys that ?
I don't care if internet racists like you like me or not , here is what I actually stated bet you will avoid answering again ......
You say whites are inferior to blacks and attempt to support your claim with a ridiculous statement that makes no sense at all .
This makes you the racist as you deem whites inferior and then further display your nasty racism by branding the Irish despicable ; when you first came onto C D you called whites pigs and called the Irish drunken Irish pigs , hilariously you attempt to play the victim card as you seem to think your hatred of whites is acceptable and not racist because you're black and that makes it just fine to hate whites doesn't it ?
IF you had such facts and data (that proved whites superior to blacks) then that would be both the truth and racism. I don't see how racism (not the part about discrimination, but the part about believing one's race to be superior) in that scenario would be wrong, if it were only in correspondence with the truth. That wouldn't justify treating them unfairly though.
IT IS......STUPID! About as stupid as one could be. Many of our best doctors, scientists, teachers, military officers, etc., are black. How can anyone even THINK inferiority is connected to color!?? Many of those have had to overcome the exact point you are making, ....NOT EASY most of the time!
At the end of last month, the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee voted to approve the nomination of Dr. Ben Carson for the position of U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development. Among the Senators who cast a “yes” vote to recommend the nomination for consideration by the full Senate were Democrats Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio.
As far as I’m concerned, their votes were inexcusable. How any self-described progressive could put their seal of approval on such a dangerous, right-wing nominee is a betrayal of progressive values. At least Brown could argue that he needed to vote “yes” for political reasons ― he’s up for re-election next year in a state that went heavily for Trump last November.
Warren, however, tried to make the argument in response to the fierce criticism about her vote that you sometimes have to “pick and choose your battles”― that you can’t just oppose every single nominee because they were nominated by Donald Trump.
I agree that opposition just for the sake of opposition is a bad idea. Her argument, however, might be more effective if she were talking about a less controversial nominee. Ben Carson is among the most extreme, risky, reckless nominees that Donald Trump has put forward since he won the election- and that’s saying something.
First of all, Ben Carson has no experience in the areas of housing or urban development, except that he grew up in Detroit, one of the “inner cities” that Trump talked about as “a complete disaster” during his campaign. Not only that, but when there was speculation earlier on that Carson might instead be nominated to run the Health and Human Services Department, his spokesman came out and said that Dr. Carson felt “his background didn’t prepare him to run a federal agency”.
No, I’m not kidding; that’s the actual quote. Ironic, considering that Carson ran to be President of the United States, but now apparently feels he’s unqualified to serve in a lower-level cabinet position?
I guess Dr. Carson is under the impression that the Department of HUD is somehow less complicated or difficult to run than HHS, but he is sorely mistaken. HUD, in fact, is one of the most complex departments to run in the entire federal government ― its offices are spread out across the country and it has an annual budget of over 30 billion dollars. Some of the most vital programs that millions of Americans rely on are administered by the Housing and Urban Development Department, many of which Carson vowed he would try to cut and/or eliminate if he became President.
At a time when the shortage of affordable housing stock in this country is more severe than ever (and I know, having served on the Board of Directors of the West Hollywood Community Housing Corporation for the last two years), and millions upon millions of Americans are spending more than half of their income on rent each month, we need to be expanding these programs, not cutting or eliminating them. Ben Carson is the very opposite of the kind of person we need to be running HUD; he is an existential threat to the department and we as progressives and as Democrats must do everything in our power to prevent him from taking office.
I understand Senator Warren’s position that we need to pick and choose our battles carefully. But Carson is definitely one on which we should fight, and very hard. I strongly urge all Democratic Senators (including my Senator, Kamala Harris!) to please vote against him when his nomination is voted on by the full Senate. The vote on this nomination should be considered a litmus test when it comes to the progressive bona fides of each Democratic Senator- it doesn’t get any more important or fundamental to our values and principles than this decision.
Tell me SUPER STUPID that Democrats / Leftist / Progressives don't believe in their heart that black people are inferior ! Proven from a Radical Progressive at the Huff and Puff post now deal with that !
You've got the loony lefties on the run there Outlaw.
It is a sure sign that they're rattled when they start squawking like frightened chickens in their coop watching Mr., fox trying to get in.
One of the methods used to measure the strength of your argument is the ferocity of the opposition's replies and in this regard you have agitated them into a display on ill-tempered meaningless drivel.
I congratulate you on your excellent, stimulating presentation the accuracy of which is indisputable.
The loonies wouldn't know the truth if it hit them up the face with a wet haddock, so their blustering tirades should be treated with the contempt they deserve.
The problem is that the accuracy of it's content will not be accepted the loony lefties.
Us "loony lefties" seem to be aware of many things you are not. For example, "inferior" is a word (like "best" or "worst") which measures a specific quality. Hence, if you don't make clear what that quality is, then the use of the word cannot, by definition, be "accurate". It can only be a form of slander.
Nazis in particular like this form of generic, race-based slander and they detest "accuracy" when contemplating facts, so is there something you want to get off your chest, Antrim? I personally believe you should just admit that you are a Nazi. You'll feel much better inside.
Nazis in particular like this form of generic, race-based slander and they detest "accuracy" when contemplating facts, so is there something you want to get off your chest, Antrim? I personally believe you should just admit that you are a Nazi. You'll feel much better inside.
Considering that Nazis are socialist, they actually are part of the "loony left". I kind of doubt that would be a good fit for Antrim.
I am just sayin'.
By the way, it is unrealistic to characterize racism as a thing of the right but not the left.
While there is a thin pocket of racists on the fringe right (in the US, at least), most conservatives favor pretty strict meritocracies. (It is a natural result of belief in the free market economy and the benefits for all of competition.) Meritocracies tend to strongly discourage racism by virtue of their focus on individualism, actual measurable results (productivity, achievement, profit, etc.). The right's value of the individual identity, personal accountability, free markets, and the profit motive are naturally antithetical to racism and racist policies. Even when people on the right group people together, we generally group them by actions, interests, or philosophies, not immutable characteristics like race.
By contrast, the tendency on the left toward identity politics, the desire for equality of outcome (as opposed to equality of opportunity) regardless of personal choice, makes racism a natural tendency, even among the well-intentioned. The minute people start comparing people based on race instead of personal choices, and then saying that (insert problem here) is a (insert race here) problem that shows discrimination, they are kind of stuck in the land of being racists.
I don't mean to imply that the majority of those on the left are intentionally or even consciously racist, nor that most have unkind intentions. I don't mean to say that all leftists are racists. All I am saying is that the social, economic, and political philosophies tend to be much more fertile ground for racism.
As a conservative, I acknowledge that culture, values, and personal choice, not race, are how people end up as professional athletes, accountants, engineers, English teachers, convicted felons, and entrepreneurs. By contrast, when the people on the left say there are not enough Blacks in STEM fields, and too many in prison, they generally frame this as being caused by White racism, but that is just another example of the left asserting a racist stereotype onto a race, without proof or justification.
The last place most leftists look for explanation of widespread situations is the individuals who made the choices that led to their respective destinations, because basic to thinking on the left is that race is actually a bigger factor than the power of the individual.
Democrats tend to think that somehow Black people (for example) just are not able to figure out for themselves where to put their efforts or how to be successful in doing something as simple as finishing school or choosing a career--they must need the help of the Democratic party and its policies.
Again, in case you missed it, this is a natural outgrowth of the world view and philosophies that underlie the politics of the left.
If I understand your post, you are saying that Democrats (at least Warren, many others in office, and the party leaders) are racists as evidenced by their statements and many of their policies.
That is how it seems to me.
Democrats often support categorizing people by race and extending special treatment to one race or another (which is the definition of racism) and lately it is Blacks and Hispanics. (Affirmative Action is one such policy.) Ostensibly this is supposed to ensure equality of outcome for all people. However, it belies the Democrat belief that if we ensure equality of opportunity and enforce a pure meritocracy, then Blacks and Latinos would not be successful.
This is a clear demonstration that Democrats believe Blacks and Latinos are inferior to Whites and Asians, and not good enough to achieve success by relying only on personal abilities and hard work. This is odd, considering the success of people like Alan West, Ben Carson, Neil Degrasse Tyson, Justice Soto-Mayor, Ted Cruz, etc., in addition to all the capable and successful people of my personal acquaintance.
So, yeah. Racism is intrinsic to the Democratic Party's outlook.
