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Debate Score:197
Arguments:315
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If you say that evolution is a hoax, did you learn that in school, or church???

Hello:

There's really nothing to add, here.. 

excon

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1 point

Here Ex. Listen to an Atheist biologist tell you about "evolution".

https://youtu.be/Z6ElA0--JNg

Side: Church

Here, every 8th grader is expected to know about evolution, and 3 alternate theories for origin of life (God put it, aliens put it, and something similarly boring - luckily, they aren't much heavier than that in syllabus...).

Anyone who denies it is too unworthy for the truth... I wish I had such a convenient people at my disposal. You've no idea what many could give for it.

Side: Church
3 points

Please. It doesn't pass the bare minimum of "proof" that atheists demand of a god.

Side: School
1 point

How could you possible learn that in school. I mean I believe in evolution but it was the church that said that was wrong. Not school

Side: Church
1 point

Oh please. What church did you go to that even mentioned Evolution? I've never heard a peep from any preacher in real life or on television.

Side: School
4 points

I learned it because I have actually went through the material of biologists and paleantologists. Once you actually watch their presentations you roll your eyes, realize the assumptions, the guesses, and even hear them admit their dogmas.

Side: School
1 point

Hello GW:

I don't think reading stuff you find on the internet and watching Youtube videos qualifies as school..

excon

Side: Church
GrittyWorm(14) Disputed
3 points

It's like this Ex. I've seen every Richard Dawkins and Phil Gingrich video there is. One is a paleantologist and one is a biologist. Gingrich uses the words 'this characteristic was assumed' so many times in his demonstrations that it becomes hilarious. And with Dawkins, why does a biologist need to bring up God in every speech about biology? Because he's a dogmatic hack. You are a part of a religion and don't even know it.

Side: School
GrittyWorm(14) Disputed
3 points

I mean come on Ex. You really think 15 pound dogs became 80,000 pound whales? What? It's okay for you to challenge your dogma. Isn't it really about facts and the truth? Whether a god exists or not, Darwinian theory is a religion.

Side: School
3 points

What? So watching videos of the speeches of scientists is futile? What? Should we watch CNN for our science? Get out of here....

Side: School
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
1 point

You were indoctrinated and you want to believe you are exonerated in death. You allowed yourself to be bullied by propaganda presented by people who want you to be evil so they feel that their evil is excused.

Side: Church
3 points

You were indoctrinated and you want to believe you are exonerated in death. You allowed yourself to be bullied by propaganda presented by people who want you to be evil so they feel that their evil is excused.

Side: Church
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
1 point

sorry, I misread your post when I first responded to it. .

Side: Church
Atrag(5666) Clarified
1 point

Translation: I am a fundamentalist Christian.

Side: Church
1 point

realize the assumptions

Assumptions are everywhere, to use that to prove something wrong, is wrong.. logical assumptions are made every now and then, what matters to us is how close our assumption is to practicality, so that those assumptions are feasible and can be used, in a specific domain, where it coincides with practicality.

and even hear them admit their dogmas

Biologists don't have time machines, they try deducing from what is provided to them.

Side: Church
3 points

I've never been to a church that talked about Evolution. I actually studied it. Darwinism doesn't match the evidence. If it was any other type of theory it would have been dismissed, but atheists can't let go of it in the same manner that the religious people can't let go of their dogmas. The Cambrian Explosion destroyed Darwinism decades ago.

Side: School
excon(18260) Disputed
1 point

Hello FH:

Thank you.. Have you ever been to a church that talks about creation? I'll bet you have.

excon

Side: Church
FemaleHeart(24) Disputed
3 points

Yeah, but I went to Baylor University, and they actually told us to watch every video of the 4 horsemen of Atheism, and they told us that because they knew we would see the flaws. If you read enough of Dawkins you realize his hatred for God, which mutates the "science. If you watch Hitchens, you realize he wants to believe. If you watch Sam Harris you see that he sees Christianity as a wall that keeps out worse versions of government.

We actually had to write papers on their presentations.

Side: School
FemaleHeart(24) Disputed
1 point

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Side: School
3 points

As far back as I can remember, maybe even before I started school at 5 or 6 years old, evolution was being taught on television and publications aimed at children. Of course the schools reinforced that teaching and the indoctrination continued and I really did try to believe it for a few years, and...until I figured out that if it is true that man evolved from molecules, then all that really matters is survival and life is ultimately meaningless. The indoctrination of evolution was against us being created by God, that was obvious to me even when I was a little child and it's easy to understand that if there is no God, there is nobody above me to determine right and wrong and nothing really matters because we are stuck in dying and in evolutionary belief we lose it all.

For the next 15 years or so, evolution was pumped down my throat and while I had to believe God is there or nothing in the world or life makes any sense at all I tried to accommodate the possibility of God causing life to evolve. I was not a Christian, I guess you would say I was a theistic evolutionist....a deist, yet I was smoking more weed than the stupid excon, who loves the dope more than life, can shake a stick at.

It was plain common sense which led me to fully reject belief in evolution. Life does not emerge out of non-living things, reptiles do not turn into birds or mammals, and monkeys do not turn into people. If you believe any of these things happen or ever did happen, you are a sucker....and like the guy who had that famous circus said, "A sucker is born every minute".

The question of belief in evolution is not a question of science, it is a question of religion and philosophy. If you believe in evolution, you believe life emerged out of non-living things and you are projecting supernatural ability into natural elements; a religious belief. The philosophical concepts which follow are might makes right, survival of the fittest, natural selection, no objective morality, no objective meaning of life, exoneration in death. Evolution is evil, pure and simple, encouraging people to try to justify their sin and hope for exoneration in death and it is used by demons to pull suckers down to the fire of Hell.

Amen.

Side: School
excon(18260) Disputed
1 point

Hello Now:

I COULD call you stupid too, but I'm a much better person than you.

excon

Side: Church
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
2 points

You are a sinner who deserves to burn in Hell. If you are "a much better person", why can't you get yourself out of death?

People want to believe in evolution for one reason: pride; they are simply to proud to admit that they are not as good as God and do not deserve to exist outside of Hell. You show your pride in your "I'm a much better person than you" garbage. It's not me you have to stand before on Judgement Day. Deny it until you are blue in the face if you want to, you're not getting out of it in your pride.

Amen.

That's good preaching.

Repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

Side: Church
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
1 point

You created this debate as a means of insulting anybody who does not believe in evolution. Somehow you don't see your own rudeness when I tell the truth saying it's stupid to believe in evolution.

This is what you have been programmed to do...to insult anybody who does not agree with your belief in evolution, to claim science is exclusive for those who believe in evolution. It's really childish and more than anything shows your own lack of intellect.

Side: Church
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
1 point

Oh, yep, I did call you stupid.....well, you are being stupid and you wont' stop being stupid, will you?

You won't believe the fire of Hell is the worst possible place imaginable until you are burning in the fire and wanting out, correct? You're stupid, man, and when you start to listen for your own sake I'll stop calling you stupid.

All you are doing here is calling every Christian on the planet stupid, and if you cry about being called stupid then you are just a cry baby.....and if you keep on going the way you are going, you will find yourself in Hell wanting out and you will remember these words and be haunted by the fact that you refused to listen and preferred to be stupid.....and you will say "How could I be so stupid?"

Side: Church
FemaleHeart(24) Disputed
1 point

Evolution is a myth. The Cambrian Explosion and the Fermi paradox killed atheism from an intellectual viewpoint. They are holding on by a thread. Christ is coming back soon. They will wail like hounds on that day.

Side: Church
1 point

Amen .

Side: Church

I learned it by actually watching these scientists explain their positions. After a while, I learned Darwinism is a bs myth. Try it some time. You won't believe it either. The problem with atheists is they watched the bs highlight real, were indoctrinated, and are too brainwashed to know anything else.

Side: School
2 points

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You are not stupid, yet it is stupid to believe in evolution

Side: School
1 point

Hello again, Now:

Thank you..............................................

excon

Side: School
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Do you hate evolution?

Side: Church
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
1 point

what do you want, Carman, and why do you want it ?

Side: Church
FemaleHeart(24) Disputed
1 point

You are still yet to provide any evidence that it has any basis in reality. Good luck. It's a fictional piece conjured up by atheists too stupid to grind out of their negative psychopathy.

Side: School
1 point

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Side: School
1 point

At 74 years old as you claim to be you remember back to your school days.

Side: School
excon(18260) Disputed
1 point

Hello again, DB:

Yes, I DO remember.. Look.. The problem is, you don't have the mental capacity I do.. I'm sorry a poor soul like you has to find enemies on the internet.. That's fine.. I'm NOT here to make friends with you.. I'm not going to indulge your rudeness any longer.. Stuff it, right winger.

excon

Side: Church
3 points

Yes... that's why you ignore 90% of my rebuttals and never click the links. I know, because it shows me if you do, because I created the sites.

Side: School
DBCooper(2194) Clarified
2 points

The problem is you don't have the mental capacity to remember at 74 years old but internet enemies are now your problem. Do What ...

Side: Church
FemaleHeart(24) Disputed
1 point

I'm 32. I can't remember the names of most of my classmates without jumping on Facebook.

Side: Church

I hold Darwinism to the exact standard as Atheists hold God to. Testable? Nope. Observable? Nope. Measurable? Nope. So why should I believe? Faith? There are no eternal consequences for Darwinian rejection.

Side: School