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Debate Score:55
Arguments:61
Total Votes:68
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If you were a cop in America, would you stay or would you quit?

Stay

Side Score: 27
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Quit

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Jody(1791) Banned
2 points

Why would they quit a job where they get free reign to act the bully boy in a country where cops will harass and fine drivers for the most minor of what they deem infractions of the law?

Also to call the obese slobs who are the norm in the US police force a “ police force “ is a joke 40% are grossly overweight and allowed to be so , overpaid , corrupt surly bully boys .....quit the goose that laid the golden egg? ......Yeah sure they will

Now Mr “freedom of speech “ you may do your usual and ban as I know you only want full agreement from your gallery

Side: Stay
DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
2 points

I believe you end up getting banned, because you can't go more than six words without either insulting someone, or making outright untrue statements about people that you don't even know.

I've only known two possibly overweight police officers in my lifetime. One retired with a practically standard career, and the other died in the line of duty when he shot in the back of the head.

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If you don't like being fined for driving incorrectly, then I suggest you learn how to drive.

Side: Stay
Mongele(643) Clarified
1 point

You don't have to be a bad driver to be subjected to the authoritarian and domineering behaviour of cops.

Too many police officers know that motorists are easy meat and will consequently be willfully antagonistic during a traffic stop.

Once these little Hitlers are satisfied that they've established control over you they become even more dictatorial.

Let's face it, until the availability of dash-cams a traffic cop could accuse the motorist of almost any violation and we'd either refute the false allegation and receive a ticket or, eat humble pie and apologise for the fictitious infringement.

The priority of most cops is to inflate their ego, and/or have a bit of fun, with the traffic infraction, real or contrived, taking second place.

These stops are more frequent and grilling if you drive one of the pretentiously called upmarket marque vehicles

Side: Stay
Jody(1791) Disputed Banned
1 point

I believe you end up getting banned, because you can't go more than six words without either insulting someone, or making outright untrue statements about people that you don't even know.

Translation: the truth hurts

I lived in New York where it was commonplace to see obese cops leaning against their cars chomping doughnuts, hot dogs , burgers , also I’m sorry you don’t like the fact that 40% of American cops are overweight / obese ......those figures are from the police force 😳

I've only known two possibly overweight police officers in my lifetime. One retired with a practically standard career, and the other died in the line of duty when he shot in the back of the head.

Really? The one shot in the head was probably napping after a fill of doughnuts 🤣

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If you don't like being fined for driving incorrectly, then I suggest you learn how to drive.

Having mud on your license plate means you have to learn to drive or a blown light bulb 😳WTF ?

American police are surly bully boys where it’s accepted that drivers are targeted for revenue every time one crosses from one state to another

Side: Quit
1 point

To quit would be conceding defeat to the loony-leftist anarchists.

The leftist filth would seize the opportunity of a lawless state to open the flood gates even wider for them to achieve their burning ambition of creating the world's biggest free-for-all hangout of international criminals and low-life spongers.

Side: Stay
1 point

A handful of trigger-happy ones might quit ... hopefully, but the majority of good, well-trained, conscientious cops will stay! They'd welcome getting rid of those who ruin their reputation! :-)

Side: Stay
Amarel(5669) Clarified
2 points

When those cops in Atlanta justifiably shot someone, they were immediately fired and then charged by local prosecutors. When that cop in Columbus saved a girls life, national media cried racism. All last year when cops did much of anything to stop rioters, they were called fascists. THOSE are the good ones. All the other good cops around the country see the way good cops are treated and are starting nto think it's not worth it. Of the madness continues, they'll be right.

Side: Stay
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
2 points

Knit-picking doesn't help. For every shooting you can find SOME justification for, you can find several you have to "make up" justifications for. There are just too many trigger-happy cops around. They would rather shoot and take their chances .... very GOOD chances, that they will be O.K. with it. Problem is, the victim has NONE. I have a Deputy Sherriff and a Police Cheif - former detective in the family. I'm happy neither has been a "Quick-Draw McGraw"! They've been treated quite well.

Here's a knit-pick for ya, a 12 year old boy with an air-pellet gun shot within seconds of a warning to "drop it"! Trigger happy??

Side: Stay

If I were a cop in a relatively stable red state, yes. I would have no problem with the population at large and they would have no problem with me doing my job. As for someone being a police officer in one of the blue states, now that is another matter. Because I'd have no prospects of being protected by those rights allowed to me, as well as no insurance that the state wouldn't just throw me under the bus at the drop of a hat. This does account for instances where one would be punished for doing their job and nothing more.

Side: Stay
Amarel(5669) Clarified
1 point

Location would definitely make a huge difference. I don't know how cops in Minneapolis or Portland drag themselves to work every day knowing that if they have to defend their life, it will only be ruined as a result. Meanwhile in many other smaller cities, even in blue states there remains a basic recognition of police necessity.

I just saw that confidence in police has fallen to a 22 year low. I also saw what they didn't say in that report, but you can find if you're looking for it. That low confidence in cops is still ridiculously higher than confidence in congress and confidence in the media.

Side: Stay
excon(18260) Disputed
1 point

I don't know how cops in Minneapolis or Portland drag themselves to work every day knowing that if they have to defend their life,

Hello A:

I dunno either.. Are they BUMMED because they had to defend their lives, or are they THRILLED?? Personally, I think they LOVE it. That's WHY cops become cops, isn't it - for the ACTION?? They DON'T become cops so they can sit around eating donuts.

In fact, if I was a cop in a town with NO crime, I'd move to a town with LOTS of crime..

excon

Side: Quit
1 point

If police are bad, and they like body worn cameras, should we hate body worn cameras?

Side: Stay
1 point

If there was at least a few people around that support cops, or if there were too many people protesting to defund the cops, I would stay. I believe the police force is important in America.

Side: Stay
2 points

For the UK I'd quit because I'd be ordered to enforce crazy laws. It's unacceptable for police to make personal visits to "check their thinking", enforce hate speech laws, or enforce lockdowns; they violate fundamental human rights.

Within the context of America, if I was a cop in a state that wants to abolish the police, I'd also quit. Because reality will correct the morons asking for their abolishment. Show these morons what happens in a world without police since apparently they won't understand no matter how many lives they ruin, they need to be directly affected.

I dislike the existence of the police, but I firmly understand the need for their presence; the incentive to revert from civilised means to force is impossible to live with in a civilised society. And as crap as the reality of the situation may be, good police that uphold individual rights and equal law deserve particular respect. And they certainly don't get that today from the public.

A cop shoots a kid that was about to stab someone, literally saving someone's life, though killing the aggressor. And apparently he's a racist evil pig.

Side: Quit
Hootie(364) Disputed Banned
1 point

It's unacceptable for police to make personal visits to "check their thinking", enforce hate speech laws, or enforce lockdowns; they violate fundamental human rights.

Protecting your life from a dangerous pathogen is not a violation of your "fundamental human rights" you child.

Side: Stay
Amarel(5669) Clarified
0 points

"Newswise — Home Office data shows the number of police officers voluntarily resigning from the force in England and Wales has more than doubled in the last eight years"

American cops are leaving for obvious reasons. Why are Bobbies quitting?

https://www.newswise.com/articles/walking-away-from-the-beat-why-police-officers-are-voluntarily-leaving-in-large-numbers

Side: Stay
JamesDD(11) Clarified
1 point

American cops are leaving for obvious reasons. Why are Bobbies quitting?

https://www.newswise.com/articles/walking-away-from-the-beat-why-police-officers-are-voluntarily-leaving-in-large-numbers

The article literally says why you stupid bastard.

Side: Stay
1 point

If you were a cop in America, would you stay or would you quit?

Hello Mr:

Yeah, it's a tough job.. But, you can get RICH ripping off drug dealers, or anybody else for that matter, who happens to have cash in his pocket.

excon

PS> You DO know about civil forfeiture, don't you? No?? Here ya go... Get yourself educated..

https://www.aclu.org/issues/criminal-law-reform/reforming-police/asset-forfeiture-abuse

Side: Quit
Amarel(5669) Clarified
1 point

Your position is that a cop should stay on the job because they will get rich?

Side: Stay
excon(18260) Disputed
1 point

Your position is that a cop should stay on the job because they will get rich?

Hello A:

I'd much rather deal with a cop who has his feet on the ground, than one who is doing, what he perceives to be, a moral good.

Lemme ask you this.. If you were cop who found a couple grand in cash on a suspect, and you had NO IDEA where it came from, and you had the legal authority to SEIZE it, would you?

excon

Side: Stay
BrontoLite(759) Disputed
1 point

Yeah, it's a tough job.. But, you can get RICH ripping off drug dealers, or anybody else for that matter

Yes, yes. We are familiar with the practices of woke, racist cops working for Communist mayors in blue cities.

Side: Stay

If you were a cop in America, would you stay or would you quit?

I'd quit and let them defend their own property and selves without guns just as they demanded.

Side: Quit
Hootie(364) Disputed Banned
1 point

I'd quit and let them defend their own property and selves without guns just as they demanded.

Nobody asked you Bronto. You were banned for abusing the site.

Side: Stay
1 point

Retirements are early and recruitment is way down. Police ARE leaving. With fewer police in service, violent crime is up. Booming gun sales indicate an expectation that crime is expected to rise even higher and with no one to call.

https://www.lawofficer.com/cops-are-leaving-what-does-this-mean-for-public-safety/?amp

Side: Quit
0 points

Quitting is for quitters.

This is the time for all true citizens to stick to their guns (literally) and stand firmly resolute against the political storm troopers of full-blown communism.

Side: Quit