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Of course not Trump can do no wrong
Debate Score:60
Arguments:54
Total Votes:67
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If you were "invited" into a country, is it OK for them to change their mind?


Hello:

Fifty years ago, when my friend Tio came across the border, we LOVED having illegals here..  They picked our tomatoes, washed our dishes and blew our leaves..  Johnny Carson even JOKED about his illegal nanny on the Tonight Show..  They simply were NOT an issue.   

Truly, when people like Tio got to the border, they didn't see a DO NOT CROSS sign..  They saw a HELP WANTED sign..  If that's NOT an invite, I dunno what one is.

excon

Of course not

Side Score: 31
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Trump can do no wrong

Side Score: 29
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Fifty years ago, when my friend Tio came across the border, we LOVED having illegals here.. They picked our tomatoes, washed our dishes and blew our leaves..

In other words your people liked the slave laborers. Very just cause you have there Excon.

Johnny Carson isn't some hive mind voice for everyone else. He's one voice.

Johnny Carson even JOKED about his illegal nanny on the Tonight Show..

During that time period the U.S. population was half of what it is now. People were unemployed in Carson's time. That means she probably stole the job from an American, and without the illegal alien to hire, an American would have gotten the job and been paid better than the alien.

They simply were NOT an issue.

You had 20-30 times less illegal aliens in those days. A current flood is an issue even if you think a past trickle is not. To others, it was an issue. You are inserting that it wasn't an issue to you, even though you know it was to people who wanted wages to go up.

Your country just got a 3.1% wage increase. If it gets flooded with more and more slave labor, wages go down. You are choking your own people off to feed billionaires more slaves.

Side: Of course not
excon(14590) Disputed
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In other words your people liked the slave laborers. Very just cause you have there Excon.

Hello Jack:

I met Tio at Paisans Pizzeria in Denver.. He washed dishes. I didn't speak Spanish, and he didn't speak English.. But, communication is MUCH more than just words.. He became a lifelong friend to me..

Anyway, he was making what dishwashers made.. I dunno where you get this slave crap.. In fact, what he made as a dishwasher was BIG BUCKS in Mexico, so Tio was able to send enough money home to support his family..

COULD an American have done that job?? Sure.. Did an American APPLY?? No. Tio applied..

You gave me a lot of reasons WHY Tio got in and why nobody cared., but you didn't answer my question.. Should Tio be deported??

excon

Side: Trump can do no wrong
JackAce(35) Disputed
1 point

.. I dunno where you get this slave crap.

Report: 1 In 20 NY Workers Get Paid Less Than Minimum Wage

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.gothamist.com/amp/articles/create?articleid=5919aeb6c9380c00010548c5

Restaurants pay immigrant workers less than minimum wage

https://www.gazettenet.com/Gazette-investigation-finds-Chinese-restaurants-paying-undocumented-workers- less-than-minimum-wage-4686092

Side: Of course not
JackAce(35) Disputed
1 point

COULD an American have done that job?? Sure.. Did an American APPLY?? No. Tio applied.

You don't know if anyone else applied, & even if they did not, one case does not cover all cases nationwide.

Side: Of course not
JackAce(35) Disputed
1 point

He became a lifelong friend to me..

I have friends who are immigrants, some from Mexico. They don't like what they call "line jumpers". Would you like someone cutting in front of you at the store?

Side: Of course not
JackAce(35) Disputed
1 point

Should Tio be deported??

There should be a statute of limitations on deportations, so no. We should build a wall & guard it or let ICE do its job. You would have gotten everything you wanted already, with no resistance if Democrats weren't bringing them in to vote in socialism. If they would support capitalism, we'd wave them in ourselves, but that's not what's happening. The Marxists are trying to overwhelm the country intentionally to make the West Communist. It's even how Lenin and Marx said you bring it in. Overwhelm Capitalism with those in poverty to create the welfare state controlled by a godlike government. You're issue with us is we are not suckers & we love our country enough to defend it.

Side: Of course not
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
1 point

Hello Jack:

I met Tio at Paisans Pizzeria in Denver.. He washed dishes. I didn't speak Spanish, and he didn't speak English.. But, communication is MUCH more than just words.. He became a lifelong friend to me..

Anyway, he was making what dishwashers made.. I dunno where you get this slave crap.. In fact, what he made as a dishwasher was BIG BUCKS in Mexico, so Tio was able to send enough money home to support his family..

COULD an American have done that job?? Sure.. Did an American APPLY?? No. Tio applied..

You gave me a lot of reasons WHY Tio got in and why nobody cared., but you didn't answer my question.. Should Tio be deported??

excon

STUPOR STUPID do you have a SHORT MEMORY ????????????

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-i-dont-speak-a-foreign-language-its-embarrassing/

Obama brushed off the criticism today, saying that immigrants should learn English but that Americans should learn a foreign language as well. "You know, this is an example of some of the problems we get into when somebody attacks you for saying the truth," he said, "which is we should want children with more knowledge."

Know STUPOR STUPID there is some LEFTIST INSANITY for you !!!!!!!!

Side: Of course not
2 points

A hotel invites you, and you can come in when there are plenty or rooms, blankets, resources, etc. In this case, the hotel is packed, the resources are shrinking, and the hotel has a $21 trillion deficit heavily created by its former manager. Conservatives are the accountant and the fire marshal giving warning to hotel management.

Side: Trump can do no wrong

Fifty years ago, when my friend Tio came across the border, we LOVED having illegals here..

You loved having them here. Your neighbors didn't. You ignored your neighbors' wishes.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
excon(14590) Disputed
0 points

You loved having them here. Your neighbors didn't. You ignored your neighbors' wishes.

Hello P:

Well, they COULD have said something, and we could have discussed it THEN.. But, they didn't.. In fact, it was only a few years ago when people who picked my lettuce were called MS-13.

excon

Side: Of course not
JackAce(35) Disputed
1 point

MS-13 is called MS-13 and they come posing as lettuce pickers. Then they pick no lettuce. They shoot people in the streets and decapitate them.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
JackAce(35) Disputed
1 point

Well, they COULD have said something, and we could have discussed it THEN

They did.

https://youtu.be/a7Bysn8u1QI

Side: Trump can do no wrong
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
1 point

Hello P:

Well, they COULD have said something, and we could have discussed it THEN.. But, they didn't.. In fact, it was only a few years ago when people who picked my lettuce were called MS-13.

excon

The PARTY PARROT speaks and his love for gangs is the PARTY LINE !!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Trump can do no wrong
1 point

Hello:

Fifty years ago, when my friend Tio came across the border, we LOVED having illegals here.. They picked our tomatoes, washed our dishes and blew our leaves.. Johnny Carson even JOKED about his illegal nanny on the Tonight Show.. They simply were NOT an issue.

Truly, when people like Tio got to the border, they didn't see a DO NOT CROSS sign.. They saw a HELP WANTED sign.. If that's NOT an invite, I dunno what one is.

excon

The PARTY PARROT likes him some aliens on the West Coast ! So DUMMY you need all those aliens shipped to you and let the cost of those aliens be your tax burden you IDIOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Trump can do no wrong