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Yes - Go home Nah - We'll keep ya.
Debate Score:134
Arguments:73
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Immigration - should we send them back?

This is for the established ones...jobs.

Yes - Go home

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Nah - We'll keep ya.

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2 points

I am not prejudice against anyone or race. But i am against all these americans out of jobs until we can get on our own feet stay away its makes things worse ppl coming here.....

Next!

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smilnjan(116) Disputed
1 point

Totally disagree - the more people, the more jobs. Also, I've discovered that 90% of the unemployed in the US are unemployed because they are just lazy, or refuse to take a job they feel is 'beneath' them. Any work is good work. The only problem right now with jobs is outsourcing our jobs to cheaper countries. So, needless to say, IMHO, jobs is not a legit argument. :-)

Side: Nah - We'll keep ya.
Tamisan(890) Disputed
7 points

Can you back up your assertion, "90% of the unemployed in the US are unemployed because they are just lazy, or refuse to take a job they feel is 'beneath' them"? I was unemployed for nine months, not because I wasn't willing to flip burgers, but because I was "overqualified" and no one wanted to hire a disabled veteran.

Side: Yes - Go home
Republican2(348) Disputed
1 point

More people does not equal more jobs. In order for there to be positions in companies, they must first have the financial resources to create them. The fact that so many companies are going through financial hardships and are being taxed beyond belief means that there aren't going to be a lot of jobs to have in the first place.

Side: Yes - Go home
BillD(3) Clarified
1 point

Are you saying that US employees should reduce their demands in terms of pay rates. I have been to India and the cost of living (even good living) is a fraction of that in the US. I guess to level the playing field costs would have to be reduced, which would mean a reduction in services for everyone, but the wealthy. Then we would right where the Indians and Chinese are. I have Indian friends and they assure me that there is no distribution of wealth in India and the slave culture continues.

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1 point

If I illegally stayed in some other country, I'd be sent home. Doesn't matter whether I'm a saint or a thief. Unless the law changes to state that anyone can stick around on US soil, it's a crime and should be punished appropriately.

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1 point

What you say is true but that is not the core reason why illegal immigrants should be returned home. The US has policies and procedures regarding immigration. To sneak in is stealing the right to something that is not legally yours in the US, and they are stealing from the American people re: resources and from others who are standing in line trying to come into this country legally. We should secure our borders b/c we can and return any immigrant that is here illegally upon being found. Also we should tax the country they came from for every immigrant we return. It is a shame for the politicians who don't want these illigal immigrants to be returned as they see them as perspective votes if such things as the dream act is implemented.

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1 point

Immigration? Or Illegal Immigration. Those are two different topics. If it is illegal (which is what I think you meant) then it is called illegal for a reason. It's against the law.

Our medical and our social services are bogged down due to drastic amounts of illegals taking advantage of services paid for (barely) by our tax payers.

Send them back, close the schools to them, close down social services to them. Come here legally, and we welcome you with open arms.

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1 point

I totally agree with you. We need to stop the magnet though. There are American employers who hire illegal immigrants b/c they can pay them a lot less and some claim they get a better quality worker. The government should subsidize employers to hire American workers and fine them if they hire illegal immigrants. If the illegal immigrant can not get work here and therefore tax free pay, they probably wouldn't come here. As far as our medical and social service, if they can not produce proof of citizenship which can be verified, they should not be provided the service.

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BillD(3) Clarified
1 point

I think you have a point. I guess it goes back to greed and large companies doing anything to increase profits, with no social conscious.

What I don't understand is whay the government does not step in to create disincentives for outsourcing and the like. Pretty soon we will have transferred all our wealth to countries like China and India (they are already growing at 20+% per annum). Maybe we need to bring back in trade barriers or higher import duty, neither of these countries actually buy US products, unless to copy or ultimately buy out the companies concerned. Just look Jaguar in UK, now owned by Indian company (Tata).

I am not sure what any one person can do other that rasing through the legislature

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1 point

It's against our laws. Why should we keep people in our nation who don't belong here? They have no right to stay here.

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1 point

I say send them back, but only the ones that came here illegally. It's disrespectful to our country and our laws that they think they can just waltz over here and take over. Besides doing any work for cheap money (which is pretty downgrading to oneself, don't you think?) they don't really offer our country anything else. They breed too much, they use our taxes on excessive healthcare bills and lower income benefits, and the money we lose to send them home and/or imprison them (or whatever they do) when caught, is probably ridiculous too.

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1 point

Send them back . Let them ruin their own country. The companies, banks, insurance companies, and government here don't need any help ruining this country.

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1 point

Fine the people who hire them. If they can`t get a job they might as well go home, so if you catch them, give them a choice to serve in the armed forces, after they learn English, or send them back to Mexico.

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1 point

I was a green card holder for many years and naturalised. I have contributed to taxes and state etc. Currently working abroad, but interested in debate given the crisis in Europe.

The issue for Europeans is the apparently uncontrolled entry of refugees and non europeans from mainly China and India predominantly into the UK. They are loosing local jobs through outsourcing to these countries, but also loosing jobs that cannot be outsourced through increased migrant labour from the same countries.

I have been involved in US industry for many years and have seen the wave moving first to Mexico, then China. Now India is also being given great er access to US jobs in the US through work visas.

Can the West (Europe and US) continue to sell out their own people in favour of these countries, bearing in mind that both China and India are enjoying double digit growth while Europe and US and in ever increasing decline.

Would be happy for someone to explain the logic of this political strategy

Thanks

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1 point

Yes i believe all immagrants should be sent back to their counrty, because our country is losing money everyday supportinng them on welfare, section 8, and we americans our losing our jobs to these immagrants.

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ksun(1) Disputed
1 point

The States is made of immigrants, the only people who own the land - American Indians. So send yourself back then. Without immigrants country will not develop. I dont think that you or any other american want to take a cleaner job, so immigrants do that. Want to send them back? Good luck

Side: Nah - We'll keep ya.
1 point

Its not fair that legal citizens have to pay taxes while imigrants dont. In the carpentry and construction industry it is cheaper for builders to hire a crew of immigranbts than of legal citizens. When they do this it is illegal because they are stopping legal citizens from getting jobs and because they are cheaper to hire. They dont pay taxes and barely speak english. They should be sent back and more laws and force should be put in place to stop them from getting in, in the first place.

Side: Yes - Go home
1 point

Our country has laws for reasons. They are made to help keep things under control and prevent further problems.. If we do not stand behind the immigration law and allow it to be broken, why have any law at all? Why lock up drug users,molesters etc, when they break the law, and not illegal immigrants when they break the law? We are bringing more problems upon ourselves because we are not following the rules. We have other problems to deal with. If they want to live in the U.S., go through immigration, the legal way. It would prevent alot of the problems we are facing. Lets be fair, no cheating. Stand behind the law.Obey the law. Lets do it the right way.--- The legal way.

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1 point

The road to citizenship should begin in Mexico. Starve them out then make them follow the rules to get here.Make sure they take their kids. It's said nothing is free,except for immigrants I guess. Fine all employers and landlords. They will leave on their own with no work or place to live.Folks should try sneaking over to Mexico and showing up at government offices and demand the freebies that the beaners are given over here. No visa or any kind of legal papers. Just hold out your hand and demand food stamps, healthcare etc and see what happens.You would be thrown in jail or killed. Our government has not done their jobs and the American people have to sit back and watch our country sink.If I don't do my job I'm fired. No rewards for being criminals here is a good start. no need to jail them. Self-deportation can and would work. We should try it .I don't care how long they've been here! Make the whole family leave.Kids born here included.If a person robs a bank, which is also a felony, we are not rewarded and don't get to keep the money. They have been rewarded and will continue to sneak others over because it's so easy to break the rules and be given freebies. Build a damn good wall with help from the unemployed citizens and use the soldiers who are returning from war that have lost their jobs and homes to work in guard towers with shoot on site orders. That's the way you would be treated in any other country in the world. Try it if you doubt me. I could write all day about this but I'll stop for now.Someone has to work to feed them anchor babies of the illegal aliens[undocumented democrats] Independent voters unite

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1 point

Yep let's give the Americas back to the Native Americans.

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1 point

As for people little argument that they do jobs we won't do!I call bullshit! This country was built by hard working folks that will farm, cut grass,build roads,homes,bridges,paint,roofing,and anything you can think of.We have the history to back this up. Family skills passed down through the years.We just won't do it for a minimum wage like the fucks from the countries outside of the USA. Not all immigrants are from Mexico,true, but if they're here illegally they are breaking the law

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1 point

The argument is flawed. I am in full support of immigration. It is illegal immigration I have an issue with.

If you're here illegally I think you should be sent back until you apply properly. The USA isn't a free hand-out (at least, it shouldn't be).

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1 point

they cost the goverment millions every year which all comes from the tax payers pocket

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1 point

stop all the BS wasting everyone's time, money,etc. just send all the immigrants back where they came from. that won't happen since there is money to be made by a few who screw it up for the rest of us.

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1 point

I don't care about the past. I don't care who pays for what or why anymore, because too many people already here take full advantage of this country right now. This country, no matter what, HAS to stop allowing ANYONE the option of using and abusing it. That means YOU, your neighbor, and ESPECIALLY, people who come here ILLEGALLY. IF you are a traitor and believe our immigration laws are wrong, then fight to change them, but DO NOT fight for anyone's WRONG to blatantly disobey our laws. Do you also believe murderers should be allowed to kill or drunks should be allowed to drive? LAWS do not come out of thin air for no good reason, or because lawmakers are "racist". Quit using emotion instead of reason, and look at what you are really saying when you fight for WRONG to be right. By saying this country NEEDS to take in and support LAWBREAKERS, you are justifying criminals. Doesn't matter who they are, where they come from, or why they choose to break the law. We CANNOT say YES, when we already said NO. NO means NO!!!!

Side: Yes - Go home
1 point

The requirement for the best immigration lawyers is always high in the highly engineered countries with green card since they almost always have a huge inflow of immigrants. Still even then the job market tends to be tough in the field of immigration law firm since the market is getting concentrated. However you can still enter into this unique field and make a name for yourself. But you will have to work tirelessly and tough for it. Becoming one of the best immigration lawyers is definitely a high aim and achieving that will not be easy.

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0 points

All the arguments for "no" state the reasoning for keeping them is so they can do the crappy jobs. Well who made them so high and mighty that they can't do a crappy job? Second do you understand that as an immigrant they don't have to pay taxes thus working the crappy jobs yet making more thay you who has the good job. They are also getting our free aid that you feel the need to pay for with your high paying jobs. Don't you think you could make more if you didn't have to put all your hard earned money into taxes, and higher health insurance costs because we need to support those immigrats? I myself feel I work hard for my money and someone who's only worth in this country is to do the crappy jobs we refuse to do then I don't want them I am not above doing a crappy job if it means I make and keep most of my money.

Side: Yes - Go home
Semantix(20) Disputed
2 points

Many illegal immigrants DO pay taxes, they pay into Social Security if they are working under a false SS number (and living in Arizona I can tell you a good percentage do just that)

They also pay sales tax, housing tax, etc. Only the undocumented cash workers dont pay income tax, and Id wager that an equal number of non-immigrants do exactly the same. Everyone pays the government in the end, one way or another.

Side: Nah - We'll keep ya.
coolone(48) Disputed
4 points

If they are illegal how do they pay taxes? We can't collect on someone who is not in the system. Illegal means they are in this country with out proper documentation. So tell me how they pay taxes.

Side: Yes - Go home
rocknwow(77) Disputed
1 point

Second do you understand that as an immigrant they don't have to pay taxes...

No I don't understand. Where's the proof? If this is true then change the law.

More curious then concerned but I'm just wondering how the vote for this thread is 3 to 6 when only one person is opposed to immigration.

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coolone(48) Disputed
2 points

How can you not understand? How can an illegal immigrant pay taxes there is no documentation they are in this country. Now I may have misintruputed the question but why would we send a legal immigrant back?

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0 points

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ledhead818(638) Disputed
1 point

"Second do you understand that as an immigrant they don't have to pay taxes thus working the crappy jobs yet making more thay you who has the good job. They are also getting our free aid that you feel the need to pay for with your high paying jobs. Don't you think you could make more if you didn't have to put all your hard earned money into taxes, and higher health insurance costs because we need to support those immigrats?"

Isn't a better solution, amnesty for illegal immigrants then?

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5 points

This seems a bit of a biazzare arguement bordering on innane national front level. Personally I can't see a reason why we should 'send them back'. The fact of the matter is that immigrants are only wanted whilst they do the jobs that no-one else wishes to do. We see that here in the UK and when i was over in the US a few months ago i noticed the sheer number of black, hispanic, foreign nationals working in what would be coined the 'worst jobs'. Here in the UK historically immigration was encouraged, whether that be the coming of the Jews under William the Conqueror to become money lenders and bankers or the Italians a matter of decades ago to work in the less rewarding professions, as soon as anyone not obviously and inherrently Anglo-Saxon begins to become good at their job and advance however out attitude totally changes to one of a threatened cub.

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shunted(139) Disputed
2 points

I don't think we should send them back. That seems to be inhuman but I do disagree with the view that they do the work no one else wants to do. It's the case that no one wants to do those jobs for the same amount of money that illegal immigrants are willing to work for. Companies don't want to pay real wages and want a cheap labor supply. Hence, politicians won't solve the issue of illegal immigration because business doesn't want them to.

I don't understand the seeming casualness of your perspective. Let's have them here to do our shitty work for a pittance? That seems a bit immoral and degrading to me. We should not exploit other peoples' misery by doing them a favor and letting them work our shitty jobs for wages that we are unwilling to do those same jobs for.

Side: Yes - Go home
Chrisfrankyo(2) Disputed
2 points

Thats bullshit because... My your saying that carpentry is not a desirable job? well then how come my dad was a carpenter for 30 years, and build 3 million dollar homes.. then when the Mexicans came they took his and his workers job. That is complete bullshit and your an idiot for writing undesirable jobs.. there is no such thing as an undesirable job. I'm sure the millions of unemployed people legal citizens wouldn't mind having an undesirable job.

Side: Yes - Go home
4 points

No, we should not 'send them back'. First of all, America was founded on the notion of free borders. Everyone here is the descendant of an immigrant (unless you're a Native American). Second, the logistics of this would be near impossible. Third, immigrants contribute to the economy and there is no evidence that immigrants cause harm to society as some people claim.

I think we need to figure out a way to move all of these immigrants in to the primary economy instead of allowing them to exist under the radar and receive all of the benefits of living in the US without having to pay taxes like the rest of us. But simply rounding them up and shipping them back home is unreasonable and unrealistic.

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7 points

It does not make sense to attempt to round up all of the illegal immigrants currently living in the country. Particularly because the number that come into the country each day would likely outnumber the number that the government rounds up and deports. It makes more sense to try to properly secure the borders and assimilate the current illegal immigrant population into the general population.

I am for the bill linked below which would deport illegal immigrants in jail.

Supporting Evidence: Bill to deport jailed illegals (www.chron.com)
Side: Yes - Go home
1 point

Borme is correct.

American society and culture is and always has been a constantly changing system that is based on the principles of accepting all peoples. Immigrants coming from Europe started out as low as current immigrants, but they have clearly assimilated into our society. The economic stimulus the immigrants provide is enough reason to accept them. They will soon adapt to American society, just as Europeans and so many others did before them.

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randomguy(46) Disputed
2 points

I've already argued that we should not try to send all the illegals back to wherever they came from but I disagree with the notion that this country was the founded on accepting all immigrants. That is simply not correct. The majority of our ancestors came to the US from Europe and had to be processed at Ellis Island. Once they arrived at Ellis Island there was a thorough process of evaluating the potential immigrants for disease and then getting them their proper paperwork. It was not an open port that allowed any and all to come in without scrutiny or documentation. The problem with the illegal immigrants that come in through the southern border is that they are not properly documented and are not following the immigrant guidelines set forth by the government. The immigration guidelines were put in place to allow for equal oppurtunity for immigrants from throughout the world to access the US, not just those that can sneak across the texas border. Its despicable that we are forced to punish the people trying to migrate here through the proper methods, ie people from Asia, Africa and Europe that apply for Visa's, because so many immigrants are coming into this country illegally from south and central america.

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danfrat(6) Disputed
1 point

Yes, America was founded on the notion of free borders. When my ancestors came to this country, they followed the laws of the US. The laws exist for a reason. If an immigrant came here illegally, They are breaking our laws and the consequence is that they definitely be returned to there country and have to wait longer in line. Those that follow the laws of these United States and wait in line, should be given the opportunity to contribute the our economy and pay taxes etc. They all should be returned if they are not here legally and the "way" to intergrate them into our ecomony is to have them come over the border legally. That's why our laws exist.

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3 points

History has shown that the problems created initialy from imigration are easily eclipsed by the long term benefits.

Ignore the fact that our founding fathers, Adams, Jeffferson, Washington, et al, were immigrants.

Given time immigrants tend to be very productive members of American society. They are very appreciative and tend not to take this country for granted. They have to work so much harder and have so many more barriers language, culture, prejudice, to name a few, that if they overcome they tend to excell. Talk about survival of the fittest.

Plus I like all the different foods and excuses to drink cheap beer. Can you say Cinco De Mayo...St. Patties...don't the Vietnamese have a Holiday we can celebrate?

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2 points

people came here on a dream to be free.

Sure! Let's shatter their dreams for our own selfish reasons!

Pure Logic!

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danfrat(6) Disputed
1 point

They came here illegally. For those immigrants who came here legally, may all there dreams come true. For those who didn't, we need to send them back and have them stand in line like everyone else. They are not above the law and shouldn't be rewarded for breaking it.

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2 points

also if you realize,well me being mexican,how many times do you see americans on corners begging for change well many!and how many times do you see latinos doing that well its rare,more than that they do the jobs you dont want to

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danfrat(6) Disputed
1 point

Are you comparing an illegal immigrant to an American citizen who is begging? For real? You are not comparing apples to apples. Try again. I don't doubt illegal immigrants work very hard. If however, they are not here legally, they should be returned to where they came from and stand in line and go through the process to come here legally. Someone who is in line should be given the opportunity b/c they are abiding by the laws of the United States of America.

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2 points

Despite popular misconceptions, most illegal immigrants are here for one common cause; to start a better life for their families and themselves. Although many Americans are so quick to label them "free loaders," illegal immigrants want better than they can achieve in their current living situations. Tax payers would not be in favor of illegal immigrant children in our nations public schools. But according to Steven A. Camarota from the Center of Immigration Studies, "In 2002, there were 9.7 million school age children from immigrant families in the US." However, that number is only a small fraction compared to the 75.5 million people enrolled in preschool through college in the US in 2006 (US Census Bureau).

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Although there are many immigrants who work for less than others, one must also realize the explosion of the recent, so called 'gold collar workers' immigration. In western society, it has become increasingly evident that many of the professionals within society, are indeed immigrants trained overseas but are attracted to the living standards and lifestyles of the west. Even universities report that children from immigrant families, tend to gravitate more strongly towards professions such as medicine and engineering, while many more anglosaxons prefer entering telecommunications and corporate based careers. Such preferences clearly indicates that in the west, the supply of immigrant workers, especially gold collar immigrants, provide a vital and important role in maintaining living standards and lifestyles.

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1 point

Sending them back is to mexico is like sending the blacks back to africa. Let's be reasonable here.

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Maria0305(37) Disputed
0 points

I'm sorry, do all illegal immigrants come from Mexico?

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1 point

Unless they have criminal records in their original countries, I believe that the illegal immigrants already here should be allowed to remain. If anyone has the right to kick anyone else out of the USA it's the Native Americans we have forced onto tiny reservations.

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1 point

doesn't really make sense to send the people who do the jobs that no one else wants to do and for less money than they deserve back to their country. why can't you all be grateful that they're working their asses off for a small amount of money to put food on YOUR table?

it's also hypocritical, didn't europeans come and live on land that wasn't their's? then the americans with the westward expansion, kicking native americans and the mexicans who owned part of southern cali to southern texas off their land then claiming it as their own.

to all you who think they should be sent back, "fuck you and learn to appreciate what you have."

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pumpitup(2) Disputed
1 point

fuck you to. i can lean to appreciate what i have without asshole illegals running rampart and cost the taxpayers millions to support them.

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1 point

I don't beleive that we (America) should send them back. My reason for this is that they are people. Also because of what the Statue of Liberty has inscribed in her.

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1 point

I dont think they should get sent back, they should do their time and then decide what to do with them. it can break up many families and cause a smaller population,and people that arent happy tend to also create a crime and then theres another chunk of money and it adds up to alot,my father is an immigrant in prison,and if he gets sent to mexico(where hes from)it will be harder for me to see him,and not only will people be unhappy but anyways how can americans live with themselves knowing they are breaking up families

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1 point

generally speaking, estimated to be 12 to 20 million illegal immigrants. they account for what 5 % of population? so... kicking them out will right off the top reduce the economy by an equivalent amount. heritage foundation estimates at least 1% drop in economy (that's $100 billion in output) in addition, study indicates that immigrants in general start small businesses at double the rate of native whites. going back to population illegals account for 9-12 percent of our population growth and they are overwhelmingly young meaning that they will account for a substantial portion of paying for medicare in the future, since native population is barely reproducing itself (average family has 1.2 kids?) in the 15th century, spain and portugal ruled the world. during the inquisition, they decided to kick out all the jews. result...they fell off the map in terms of power, economy, empire, innovation, from which they have never fully recovered. we need and benefit from an ever replacing immigrating population. yes, there are costs, but they are fully recovered in maintaining our country as the greatest country in the world (if we could just fix our politics, but that's another debate)

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1 point

In many cases, deportation is generally done either by the government's executive apparatus, and as such is often subject to a simpler legal process (or none), with reduced or no right to trial, legal representation or appeal due to the subject's lack of citizenship. For example, in the 1930s, more stringent enforcement of immigration laws were ordered by the executive branch of the U.S. government which led to the removal of up to 2 million Mexican nationals from the United States.[4] In 1954, the executive branch of the U.S. government implemented Operation Wetback, a program created in response to public hysteria about immigration and immigrants.[5] Operation Wetback led to the deportation of nearly 1.3 million illegal immigrants from Mexico.

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1 point

Why doesn`t anyone understand ILLEGAL ALIENS????????? Quess I don`t have to obide by the laws either! Is my GOVERNMENT out to ruin me and MY country? GOD help the USA and bring back Common Sense to my leaders!!!!!!!!!

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1 point

Put ALL the illegal immigrants in the Military and send them to Iraq and Afganistan. America, Love it, Protect it, or leave it!!!!! Let those who want to stay prove they deserve to stay!!!!!!!!!

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1 point

The United States is about to learn its own lesson, when the UK, Scandanavia, Australia, Canada and many other locations around the world could demonstrate that Indian immigration will be a disaster. They always hide behind their cultural contributions, their educational status, their success as immigrants. This is all a big con job. They are not risk takers, they are not blue collar workers, they are pencil pushing, welfare seeking cancers. They will completely destroy middle class neigbourhoods turning them into slums and they will swamp infrastructure services. Pity, USA used to be a great country. Perhaps so many of them will come, they will leave the rest of the world alone.

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1 point

we shouldn't go around gathering immigrants and sending them off we should secure the borders and make the immigrants that are here citizens and pay taxes and do everything that a citizen would do. it would cost too much to gather everyone and it wouldn't make sense, everyday will just have more and more immigration if we don't secure the borders.

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1 point

they make money for the government when they work so yes they should stay if they all left the market will crash

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Not when many of them would be in danger. They have rights...............................................................................

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