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Of course, here's why Seems hypocritical
Debate Score:82
Arguments:64
Total Votes:118
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Immigrants must assimilate, but Confederate monuments are heritage that must stay

Some people that tell others they must cut ties to their past seem to have trouble doing the same.

Of course, here's why

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Seems hypocritical

Side Score: 49

Immigrants must assimilate

I wish you'd stop using the wrong words. You are talking about cultural assimilation, which is an academic use of the word. It doesn't mean the same thing as in everyday language.

The problem with people like you who Google/thesaurus/link drop everything to try to create the impression you are smarter than you are, is that almost exclusively none of you are capable of interpreting what you read.

Side: Of course, here's why
JustIgnoreMe(4316) Clarified
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You seem to prefer broadcasting your lack of vocabulary (it is exactly the right word) over discussing the debate topic.

Side: Of course, here's why
BurritoLunch(4218) Clarified
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You seem to prefer broadcasting your lack of vocabulary

You seem to read the opposite of what people actually type. I just explained to you that you are using a word in the context of a phrase coined by an academic which is detached from its ordinary use. I can even give you the exact name of the academic who first used the word in the context of integrating one culture into another if you'd like. But let's face it, you are never going to listen to anybody else are you? Because you are always right. Oh what fun it must be to live in your world. I bet you don't have many friends, do you?

it is exactly the right word

I find it ironic that you can find words used in academic literature, yet can't seem to grasp that simply denying your own mistakes is not how academics react to legitimate criticism.

You're a fucking idiot.

Side: Of course, here's why
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Immigrants should adopt the laws and adapt to prevailing life style of their host country.

They should however have the freedom to continue to follow their religious beliefs and cultural traditions.

Removing monuments will not change history but such acts of wanton vandalism would only stir the embers of North/South discord.

United we stand-Divided we fall.

Side: Of course, here's why
JustIgnoreMe(4316) Clarified
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They should adopt the prevailing life style or continue to follow their cultural traditions?

Side: Of course, here's why
Miocene(432) Disputed
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Well, for just one instance, have you ever walked past, or gone into, an Irish Bar in New York where the revelers are enjoying The Craic but remaining within the law and abiding by the customs and practices of their adopted country.

Have you never observed Muslims going to their Mosques in Roman Catholic countries such as Spain of France?

Muslims can retain their customary dress and pursue other traditional practices as well as worshiping their God while embracing the laws and underlying customs of their new home.

Theses are just two examples of aliens having the freedom to follow some of their customs of the OLD COUNTRY without infringing any local laws

Hard lines there shithead but as usual you have made an ass of youself.

Side: Seems hypocritical
JustIgnoreMe(4316) Clarified
1 point

Didn't the vandalism happen when the monuments to treason were put up?

Side: Of course, here's why
Miocene(432) Disputed
1 point

Maybe it was, but at the time it was considered expedient to permit Johnny Reb., erect statues and memorials in remembrance to their heroes.

We are where we are, so let it be.

Any act of thuggery spawned or institutionalised vandalism could reignite the whole North--South conflict all over again.

Side: Seems hypocritical
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but Confederate monuments are heritage that must stay

Hello Just:

The Confederacy declared WAR on the United States.. What's good about that? The Confederacy LOST that war.. I wouldn't think LOSER generals would be something Trump likes.. But, he DOES.. Is that strange? Why would he do that? The Confederacy supported SLAVERY. Isn't it about time we STOPPED doing that??

excon

Side: Seems hypocritical
AMS2(37) Disputed
1 point

The Confederacy declared WAR on the United States.. What's good about that?

What's good about California making the same threats now?

The Confederacy LOST that war.. I wouldn't think LOSER generals would be something Trump likes..

Destroying historical sites as a history lesson is what white Democrats want. Trump wants the reminder of what the Democrats did there for all to think upon. Have you ever chewed on the fact that the white Democrats never once tried to take these statues down before despite many of them being in power since the 1970s and 1980s?

But, he DOES.. Is that strange? Why would he do that? The Confederacy supported SLAVERY.

The union supported slavery. The Civil War was about keeping half of the country from defecting.

https://www.shotglassofhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Design-3.png

Isn't it about time we STOPPED doing that??

I guess so. Just be sure and leave a plaque in the statue's place stating that a racist, white Democrat statue once stood there.

Side: Of course, here's why
excon(14392) Disputed
1 point

The union supported slavery.

Hello A:

I guess if you believe that black is white, and up is down, you COULD say the union supported slavery..

But, in the REAL world, where I live, it was the Antebellum south who supported slavery..

excon

Side: Seems hypocritical
2 points

Confederate Monuments are monuments to those who fought against, and tried to destroy, the United States of America. NOTHING to do with today's immigrants, it's to do with these United States. The PRESIDENT wanted equality, as the Constitution and Bill of Rights denoted. Of course, some of the writers of those items gave a bit more "freedom", and "equality" than others might have intended (liked) ... at the time ... but that was a good thing. It was an AMERICAN THING! It may not have been a Christian thing, completely, but, it was still an anti-cruelty thing, even if some "Christians" didn't like it. Assimilate THAT!

Side: Seems hypocritical
1 point

Immigrants must assimilate, but Confederate monuments are heritage that must stay

I have no problem with minorities destroying statues of racist Democrats that Republicans fought a war against.

Side: Seems hypocritical