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We want to stay! Make them leave!
Debate Score:25
Arguments:17
Total Votes:29
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Immigration in the U.S.

The United States of America is facing the problem of immigrants coming to the nation illegally and taking people's jobs away. Arizona just passed something to keep illegal immigrants, especially Mexicans, from getting into their state.

So do you think immigrants should stay or go?

We want to stay!

Side Score: 16
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Make them leave!

Side Score: 9
2 points

I am not an illegal immigrant, so the "We" is not an appropriate pronoun. But that is not really important.

What is important is that overwhelmingly, immigrants (illegal and legal) seem to help the economy, or at least do not necessarily hurt the economy.

Immigrants generate over $90 billion in taxes and have only $5 billion in welfare (http://www.aclu.org/immigrants-rights/immigrants-and-economy).

If one were to legalize illegal immigrants, a study found that it could generate an additional $1.5 trillion to our GDP (http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/07/ immigration.economy/index.html)

And here's a Newsweek article on why they don't hurt the economy. I'll let the reader see for himself.

There are not a fixed amount of jobs in the US, and (il)legal immigrants generate a profit which help to spur the creation of new jobs and new businesses. Therefore, claiming that immigrants take our jobs is merely fear-mongering. See any of my links.

Side: We want to stay!
1 point

Downvoted because...?

Side: We want to stay!
1 point

"Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Side: We want to stay!

Illegal immigrants are not going to be deported so the United States Government has to work on a compromise.

Side: We want to stay!

I believe that immigrants are just as deserving as we are. What if the American job market crashed and almost everyone lost their jobs. Would you like it if you had to stay poor and unemployed?

Side: We want to stay!
0 points

The way I see it: Free nation = free entry, free exit. I could care less about the job problem.

Side: We want to stay!
2 points

It would benefit our economy more to make them leave. They take away jobs, murder our citizens, smuggle drugs and other humans. This new law passed by Arizona is doing the governments job for them.

Side: Make them leave!
Bohemian(3860) Disputed
1 point

Actually if you look at the statistics immigrants are less likely to commit crime than natural born citizens. And they are only able to "take" jobs that others are unwilling to do.

Side: We want to stay!
trumpeter93(998) Disputed
2 points

We see now with jobs becoming harder to come by many people wanting jobs that would normally go to a person of lesser social status. I don't care what the numbers say I want them out. We've done it three times before. Coolidge, FDR and Ike passed measures ordering the immediate deportation of all illegal aliens and it worked.

Side: Make them leave!
1 point

They take away jobs-they need jobs to support themselves

"Murder our citizens"-No more than we murder each other

Smuggle drugs-they wouldn't be if we weren't addicted to them

Side: We want to stay!
1 point

I think they should leave for now. our economy is going down the crapper, the war is a big mess, Obama is doing NOTHING, the occasional problems, and now border patrol? i have no problem with ppl from other countries coming in but just not now. i say they can wait a while to get into america :)

Side: Make them leave!
1 point

ugh GET OUT. we dont like you. you screw up our economy, take our jobs, and expect more!!! Hey- we have america, you have mexico. ITS YOUR COUNTRY! UR PROBLEMS. there are so many liberals in our society and thats why most of you are coming in! Most of the convicts are illegal immigrants- i always see a murder story, and before they show the criminal, me and my mom guess an illegal immigrant: And we're ALWAYS RIGHT. just go away.

Side: Make them leave!
1 point

The dream act... ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Make them leave!