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How is he a disgrace to America? So far, we've improved in our economy, such as more jobs, the stock market, and black unemployment. Also, the wall is being built, so that's another good thing. And I wouldn't call him a disgrace to humanity either. There have been other people in our human history that were way worse than Trump. But Trump is doing his best as president, and you should respect that.
May I ask, Alof, what are those other reasons? Because, I believe you have to break the law in order to be eligible for impeachment. What law has Trump broken?
Hell yes impeach him. The Russia investigation isn't even relevant at this point because there is evidence that he has colluded with several other governments, including the Saudis, the Turks and the Israelis.
The next step for Nom now is the lazy usual retort he uses when asked to back up his assertions as in β shut up you idiotic neo Nazi shill β ππ
A former CD member who switched to Debateisland.com due (primarily) to getting sick of Nomenclature's behavior (i.e. abusing the system, trolling, spamming the forum, ect.) told me that Nom has been on the forum for years, switching from account to account. That is, just as he has switched from Quantumhead --> Nomenclature --> NumberOne, ect. Also, the member told me he suspects Nom to be 'Hellno', as well.
I wondered what you would make of these claims, considering you have been on this forum while that may (or may not) have been occurring? That is, do you think 'Nomenclature' started with Quantumhead, or does it go back further?
Nom was on Quora also in many different guises but the moderators eventually finished him off
Yes Iβve heard the theory that he may be Hellino but I doubt it as Hellino was never this rabidly aggressive
Nom is on C D from day one as quantumhead and then morphed into his many different guises , ; he admitted to suffering from depression and his illness seems to have escalated in the last few months , the poor man is seriously ill and maybe this is not the best place for him in his condition
Yes, I think you're right--this all started with Quantumhead and has been an utter 'sh't-show' ever since.
As for Nom's (possible) depression, I think you are quite correct. That is, I think he may in fact be in a somewhat serious depressive state, in real life. For instance, in a recent Thread you created, he stated:
"Dermot is quite literally the BIGGEST bully on the site, who follows members around harassing them to the point of SUICIDE, but when people say nasty things to him in return, HE GETS UPSET!!!!"
Note his comment about 'suicide' for internet 'harassment'. I hope the guy is okay. Honestly, all I want is for him to start playing by the rules and quit the nonsense
Yes I took note of that comment he made about suicide and itβs merely his strange way of admitting that deep down he realizes the damage his viciousness may cause others , the man needs professional help and your comment about him being ok is very charitable indeed as he deserves our pity
I wondered what you would make of these claims, considering you have been on this forum while that may (or may not) have been occurring? That is, do you think 'Nomenclature' started with Quantumhead, or does it go back further?
And here's where Bronto comes into play. I was debating him as the user "Ramshutu" back in the day. He and I had a mild war where he started a "bronto lie counter". In rebuke, I started a "Ramshutu lie counter". That seemed to have ended the bronto counter phenomenon...
Here he accused me of being outlaw and claimed he had gotten me banned in the past. Neither was true, but it did prove he was here pre-bronto, meaning he's been here a long damn time.
You created outlaw the first time you were banned from DDO.
And the Bronto one around the time I got you permanently banned from DDO maybe the temporary pre ban before that,
I only remember my first real scrap with him was when he posted up that 9 / 11 nonsense and he was Quantumhead when that debate was posted up , he followed that up with the Marxist debate which was equally destroyed and after that he became ever more unbalanced
I do not remember him ever getting you permanently banned
I'm out right rejecting the retarded nonsense claim that China's immigration system, the "lack of jihadists and illegals" has anything whatsoever to do with their having built the Great Wall of china.
It's pretty much a complete waste of money; used to sate idiots like you who want a physical wall because you don't understand how the world works, and have such a naive view of the world you're votes can be trivially bought by such impractical promises.
As you're an idiot, you are not able to do that, so you're limited to your trolling; throwing out nonsensical accusations then demanding that people like me disprove an argument you're too lazy to make for yourself.
How about you stop being an intellectually lazy retard, who refuses to defend anything he says, and start actually using logic and reason. I'm not going to do your thinking for you, you have to do that for yourself.
Here he begins attacking the new Quantumhead puppet after I accused him of being Quantum head.
Let's be clear QuantumHead; I try and engage.
Trolls like Outlaw and the OP post outrageously insane positions.
You post inane rants, that don't hold up to scrutiny.
Outlaw and the rest of the Bronto Brigade make no attempt to argue or defend their position, they do not want a debate or a conversation or to engage.
With you, I provide detailed arguments and explanations that I feel prove you wrong; and all I get in response is you going on the same sort of incredulous rant about how much I'm lying.
At no point do you ever explain why or how I'm lying.
As you do again.
Perhaps there is no point replying or posting to you; because you're a snowflake, who is too scared by opposing views and discussion that you have to run away with it; replying to a detailed line by line rebuttal of your reply to me (which includes pointing out that you missed my entire point, ignored the key point of my post, and that it was really just you saying a bunch of stuff was true); with simply banning me, and continuing to rant.
If you want to be a snowflake and run away into your own snowflake when someone actively challenges you to defend your position; you can do that, I'm happy to issue you trigger warnings and prepare you that I'm about to disagree with you.
But don't pretend you're doing anything but running away from an argument or debate because of your woeful inability to discuss your position.
I am prepared (and will) defend everything I say and every position I hold; it appears you are not willing to do the same; and it has been my experience that people with this sort of pitiful angry reactions to people who disagree with them are either fools, or know they're wrong.
So please, sit down, act like a grown up, and start making an argument rather than posting about how wrong people are in leiu of proving it.
I think it is potentially true; as Nom has previously stated he has been using political forums for quite a number of years (and getting banned from most). You would know better than me on this matter, as even Quantumhead was before my time.
Yes , recently he told another on C D about a site he was on that encouraged debate amongst fellow commies once they stuck to strictly communist dogma and didnβt deviate from the stated views of the site
Quantumhead was to my thinking the first account and also he only introduced the alt accounts when people started disagreeing with his more bizarre views as he intensely dislikes people disagreeing with his lofty opinions
No one comes close , there were actually several excellent debaters and some very worthwhile exchanges , Qs modus operandi is disruption and attack and is triggered by anyone disagreeing with his opinions which he thinks must be correct as they are his and how could he be wrong
The reason for all the alt accounts is merely to downvote and demean the many arguments that have destroyed his assertions because I believe he knows each time heβs again fucked up and his rage comes out in a fit of insult and downvotes , basically heβs terrified of an open fair debate and his only β defence β is downvote and attack , have you ever actually seen him get through a topic without latching an attack ?
have you ever actually seen him get through a topic without latching an attack ?
On rare occasions, I have seen him get through individual posts without resorting to attack, as long as the person he is responding to agrees with him. However, eventually there is bound to be at least some slight disagreement from the person who even generally overlaps with his position, at which time the conversation devolves into his relentless insult machine posts.
First off, "collusion" isn't a crime and is even overtly done by every President. Did the last 10 Presidents "collude" with Europe? Oh god. They did. Call the calvary.
Secondly, if "colluding" with the Saudis and Israelis is a crime, all members of every American Congress and every modern American President is a felon and didn't even know it...
If "collusion" were a crime, Obama would be in prison. So would every leader on Earth, including every European leader.
Thirdly, Obama and Clinton have more provable connections to Russia than Trump. No liberal outrage. No liberal concern.
Lastly, collusion isn't even a legal term, nor is it illegal, treason, or anything else, and you can't nail Trump for obstruction of justice either. He has the Constitutional authority to fire Comey, and at the time there was no legal investigation of him to obstruct..
Not being liked by liberals is not an impeachable offense.
The Russia investigation isn't even relevant at this point
No, actually, I would say the Russian investigation is relevant because they have to prove it happened. Just because some liberal snowflake got their feelings hurt by Trump, doesn't mean he can be impeached.
there is evidence that he has colluded with several other governments, including the Saudis, the Turks, and the Israelis.
1. Just because there's evidence of something happening, doesn't mean it actually happened. Anyone can make false evidence, that's why people analyze evidence.
2. Where's your/anyone's evidence of it happening? Don't you think this story would be all over liberal news stations?
He did ? Have you got a Hot Line to the Special Consul ? Because if you do then it is a Major Priority that the Americans that voted for Trump be put in jail for Russian Collusion ! LMMFAO !
I fully realize that what I want and what will likely come about are often two different things.
Alright, that's good, we've found some common ground.
I also realize that where there's a shit load of smoke something's probably on fire.
That's true. But, the keyword is probably. And if something comes up that proves Trump colluded with any governments, I will definitely want him impeached. Maybe not hanged, but definitely impeached.
Question is, do YOU realize that?
Yes, I do realize that. But, they'll have to prove something happened first.
Again Dummy should the American Voter be cast to gulags for the Right to Vote ? You are a Brown Shirt and make accusations that all others are. Entertainingly Stupid is what you are and no one takes your Insanity seriously !
Dummy if that is the case then the American Voters should receive the same punishment and you Progressives say you are not Brown Shirt Nazis ROTFFLMMFAO !
If it weren't for one party control of Washington he would have already been brought down. Which means do it, but wait until you no longer have one party in control across the board, because it would be relatively easy for them right now to thwart an impeachment.
I continue to ask myself why Trump hasn't been Impeached. That guy is a traitor to his country. Trump University says everything about Trum. He's a con man
Libs don't need an actual justification for an impeachment. It's a magical, theoretical impeachment. If you ask them what for they either have nothing, or they'll simply accuse him of something that has been debunked, is unproven, or is a shallow reason to want an impeachment...
No. He's a scumbag, but that's not grounds for impeachment. If you don't want him as president, don't vote for him. Taking it beyond that is detrimental to either your country's beliefs or ability to function.
Even if you don't like a President, you need a severe charge against a President in order to impeach him/her. That was in order to make sure that people of one party don't abuse their power of impeachment.