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 In Chicago, Gun Violence Defies Comprehension (49)

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In Chicago, Gun Violence Defies Comprehension

CHICAGO — Last month, the nation grieved the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history after 49 innocent people were slaughtered at an Orlando nightclub. Here in Chicago, primarily in several predominantly black and Latino neighborhoods on the city’s West and South Sides, there’s the equivalent of an Orlando massacre every month. Gun control proponents on the left clamored in the aftermath of Orlando about the availability of semiautomatic weapons that allowed the shooter to kill more than he may have been able to with a less efficient weapon.

Has anyone seen the Progressives calling for Gun Bans in Chicago ?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2016/07/10/voices-chicago-gun-violence-defies-comprehension/86804570/

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It's actually super easy to comprehend.

They are called gangs.

G-a-n-g: (Noun) an organized group of criminals.

Mix severe poverty with organized crime, and you get lots of violence. Who knew?

outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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Do criminals as there in Chicago abide by any gun laws ? What is the purpose of gun laws if criminals don't abide by them ?

HuginnShone(2) Clarified
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This person has no idea how gun laws work ^^

They make it harder for citizens to get guns, law abiding or otherwise. In most countries they restrict it down so a gun is almost impossible to get without a good reason l. AND even when you do finally get permission to apply for a license you have to go through hours of training. But as long as guns are a normal part of your society you will have mass shooting

outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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So where is Your Obama and His Minions calling for Gun Control in Chicago Progressive

outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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A Muslim shoots up a Gay Bar. What does Obama do call for more Gun Control ! But when facts are shown where is Obama on more Gun Control in Chicago !

outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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Why is it there is severe poverty in a city run by Progressives ?

outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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Why is it there is such Gun Violence in a city run by Progressives ?

reasonwell(1) Disputed
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I think the problem lies not in the efficiency of guns or their availability. The problem is in the mental state of people who carry those guns. You'd better go betting at http://vogueplay.com/.

IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
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You might want to go here, or here, or here.

The idea that gun crime is linked to mental illness is thoroughly unsound.

And I'm not going to click on a Singaporean outlet website. Seems shady.

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This debate is the funniest thing I've heard all day, thank you.

I'm not actually from America so I'm part of the rest of the world

Smiling as your country goes to shit.

Every civilised country in the world has restrictions on guns.

For some reason every other civilised country has less to no mass shooting- correlation?

Gun laws make it harder for all citizens, law abiding or not to get a

Gun and this is a good thing!!

The only argument you have for pro guns is this: I really want one, it's not very good but it's the only one you have that the facts stand behind. But since you insist on acting like children the rest of the world will treat you as such.

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Bohemian(3861) Disputed
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Every civilised country in the world has restrictions on guns.

As does the United States. As does Chicago specifically.

Cartman(18192) Disputed
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Your video was super boring, so I stopped watching, but I saw enough to know it is another miserable failure. If the office has the rule that you aren't allowed to shoot your Nerf gun at people, then they can take away his gun and match exactly how America works. Our laws already say that you can't own a gun if you have committed a crime with it. It presents a strawman argument.

HuginnShone(2) Disputed
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Ohhhh I'm sorry but you seem to have missed the whole point point, How come every other well developed country in The world combined (Europe and Australia) don't have the same amount of mass shootings in the last five years as the great USA has in the last 6 months? You don't need guns at all and there inclusion in everyday life leads to death and misery. The only possible exception I could think of is for pest control.

Because these weapons aren't shields they require special threat assessment training to anticipated a threat and act before it happens. Someone who already has a gun drawn will always kill these "good guys" your not goddamm cowboys of the west

Bohemian(3861) Disputed
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For some reason every other civilised country has less to no mass shooting- correlation?

Well, as long as we are drawing correlations, allow me to draw one. Nearly all other civilised countries have been ruled by a dictator, some of them multiple times.

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António de Oliveira Salazar - Portugal

Francisco Franco - Spain

Georgios Papadopoulos - Greece

Benito Mussolini - Italy

Wojciech Jaruzelski - Poland

Adolf Hitler - Germany

Mao Zedong - China

Napolean Bonaparte - France

Oliver Cromwell - England

Erdogan - Turkey

Engelbert Dollfuss - Austria

Joseph Stalin - Russia

Vidkun Quisling - Norway

Alexander Lukashenko - Belarus

Óscar Carmona - Portugal

Todor Zhivkov - Bulgaria

Hirohito - Japan

Ioannis Metaxas - Greece

Miguel Primo de Rivera - Spain

Marcelo Caetano - Portugal

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Most of these countries have a history of authoritarianism that runs through the blood of their political systems, the state of freedom of speech is worrisome to say the least. Germany, France, Ireland, Italy, Greece, Denmark and various other civilised countries have anti-blasphemy laws. Gun prohibitions, confiscations and other similar laws are symptomatic of that vein of authoritarianism.

AlofRI(3177) Clarified
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Huginnshone:

Well, the rest of the world doesn't have as much mental illness. That's our problem, the mentally ill won't even allow us to stop TERRORISTS from getting assault weapons. There are too many mentally ill in high places ... like our Conservative Congress.

Never mind that 87% of the country WANT stricter gun laws .... the mentally ill that we have elected WANT the "freedom" to KILL any sumbitch that they think deserves it! STAY IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY! (It's dangerous over here!):<)

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Yes yes*

MrShcmuck(76) Disputed
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My friend, you are what we call an ignorant child. You are probably from the UK or something and have no idea what goes on over here. Knowing people who own guns and ACCUALLY NEED THEM, and owning quite a few myself, I can tell you for a fact that without being in the position we're in, you have no idea what you're talking about. Now will you kindly screw off

HuginnShone(2) Disputed
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Could you give me one of these reasons please? Yours sincerely ignorant child

ProLogos(2794) Disputed
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You don't need all those guns.

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Yes yes*

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but all people can still buy guns. that mean more crime my friend.

outlaw60(15500) Clarified
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Problem is Progressives don't care about the guns in the hands of criminals ! Progressives want to disarm law abiding citizens ! That is why Progressives will not address gun violence in Chicago !

HuginnShone(2) Disputed
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No they don't they want to take alllll guns out of the system you conspiracy idiot 😂. Some guns only use is for killing people now if you can't even see the logic in removing acces to that small percentage of guns then you're a lost cause sorry buddy

MrShcmuck(76) Disputed
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They tried with Chicago and it doesnt work dear freind...

AlofRI(3177) Clarified
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That's part of the problem. Here you say "all people can still buy guns" Below, you say that the mentally ill are restricted from it, and that the FBI sucks. Which is it? We all know, ANYONE can buy from the massive cache of guns in America. We HAVE to get SOME control by using that nasty thing that is used to protect people, called "regulations"!

Oops. I jumped from one similar post to another. Anyway, the point is the same.