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Dems & Reps, Good Hope for Change, New parties!
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In the U.S. is the party system working for the people or time for change?

feel free to offer what you replace the existing parties with

Dems & Reps, Good

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Hope for Change, New parties!

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The problem is, the "parties" have moved away from government OF, BY and FOR the people. Beginning with the Gingrich/Armey "Contract With America" the takeover by capitalists and the religious right began. Citizens United fueled the fire, and a black man in the White House, tragically, brought the hatred out for the second largest group of "WE, the people!

Libertarianism, invented and financed by the Koch Bros., would REALLY bring out the chaos! Time to get BACK to the way the founders wanted our government, NOT the way radicals want to change it! Time for a change from a path to "nationalism" to the original path of democracy!

Get the MONEY out of politics, the PEOPLE will take care of the rest!

Side: Dems & Reps, Good
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The Libertarian Party (LP) is a political party in the United States that promotes civil liberties, non-interventionism, laissez-faire capitalism and shrinking the size and scope of government.[6] The party was conceived at meetings in the home of David F. Nolan in Westminster, Colorado in 1971[7] and was officially formed on December 11, 1971 in Colorado Springs, Colorado.[7] The founding of the party was prompted in part due to concerns about the Nixon administration, the Vietnam War, conscription and the end of the gold standard.[8]

The party generally promotes a classical liberal platform, in contrast to the Democrats' modern liberalism and progressivism and the Republicans' conservatism. Gary Johnson, the party's presidential nominee in 2012 and 2016, states that the Libertarian Party is more culturally liberal than Democrats, and more fiscally conservative than Republicans.[9] Current fiscal policy positions include lowering taxes,[10] abolishing the Internal Revenue Service (IRS),[11] decreasing the national debt,[11] allowing people to opt out of Social Security[12] and eliminating the welfare state, in part by utilizing private charities.[13] Current cultural policy positions include ending the prohibition of illegal drugs,[14] advocating criminal justice reform,[15] supporting same-sex marriage,[16] ending capital punishment[17] and supporting gun ownership rights.[18] Many Libertarians believe in lowering the drinking age to 18.[19]

While it is the third largest political party in the United States, it currently has no members in Congress or governorships and only a handful of state legislative seats. There are 511,277 voters (0.46% of total) registered as Libertarian in the 30 states that report Libertarian registration statistics and Washington, D.C.[20] The Libertarian Party was the party under which the first electoral vote was cast for a woman (Tonie Nathan) for Vice President in the 1972 United States presidential election due to a faithless elector.

Supporting Evidence: The statue of Liberty weeps (en.wikipedia.org)
Side: Hope for Change, New parties!
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It absolutely isn't working for most people, but I think it would be a mistake to assume that it was ever intended to. Power is addictive and what powerful people are almost always looking to do is maintain and consolidate their control over the world.

Side: Hope for Change, New parties!
iPhi(239) Clarified
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what change would you recommend, keep the parties but try to fix them? create new parties? burn it all down and go anarchy???

liberty vid
Side: Dems & Reps, Good
Hootie(364) Clarified
2 points

what change would you recommend, keep the parties but try to fix them? create new parties? burn it all down and go anarchy???

Well, the first thing I would do is ban private finance from the political system. I would fund politics through a tax system. That way, everybody gets to exert the same amount of influence on government, regardless of how rich they are, and politicians will begin to better represent the zeitgeist.

Side: Dems & Reps, Good
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Here's somebody worth voting for, unless someone has a better suggestion. minus the abortion, of course. meh

Larry Sharpe for Libertarian President 2020!
Side: Hope for Change, New parties!