Income Taxes Should Be A Fair And Level Playing Field
Some people don't think there should be any income taxes at all, but those people aren't living in reality. In the real world, it's necessary for a governement to provide certain public goods that is not feasible for people to provide on an individual level. We can argue the size of governement all day, but I'm referring to how we collect taxes. We keep having this argument that says tax that guy more, but tax me less. And that's just horse shit! I understand writing off certain qualified business expenses. That make sense. After all, if you spend $500,000 to start a business that brings in a million, you didn't really make a million. You made $500,000 and that's what you pay taxes on. But some people don't pay taxes at all. And then others play bullshit games with their income. Romney recently said that he paid 13% income taxes. And that means that I paid a tax rate that's nearly twice was his. And I'm not making tens of millions of dollars a year. Or I wouldn't spend so much time on here fucking around with you people. I'm not one of those who says tax the rich MORE, but they certainly pay less. Whatever we establish as a fair income tax rate ---if there is such a thing--- needs to apply across the board. If I pay 25% then Romeny pays 25%. Like that. This supply side theory that cutting the taxes on the rich leads to job growth is bullshit! We started that in the 1980s under Reagan and the working man has been struggling to keep his corn hole clean ever since.
Yes, Tax Everyone The Same
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No, Screw certain people over
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Some people don't think there should be any income taxes at all, but those people aren't living in reality. In the real world, it's necessary for a governement to provide certain public goods that is not feasible for people to provide on an individual level. Really? Were not living in reality? Alright, aside from the fact that those goods would be available without the government almost all of the income tax doesn't go to paying for government services, almost all of it goes to paying interest on money the government was loaned by the central bank. SO if you work 12 months a year, you work over 2 months a year to pay off this debt. Side: Yes, Tax Everyone The Same
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A more equal society is a healthier society. Those in worse off positions in society are in cyclical positions, and without help from those elsewhere in society, they are unlikely to get out. I believe that it is more just to give those at the bottom a promise of help, using money that has a lower rate of utility from those at the top, than it would for those at the bottom, guaranteeing basic living standards and opportunities for all. A progressive tax is overall advantageous to a flat tax rate, which is advantageous to a regressive tax. Side: No, Screw certain people over
A more equal society is a healthier society. Just words. Are societies healthy because they're equal or equal because they're healthy? Also, are healthy societies equal? Are equal societies healthy? What constitutes healthy or equal? Those in worse off positions in society are in cyclical positions, and without help from those elsewhere in society, they are unlikely to get out. There are an unbelievable amount of ways to help these people without creating class warfare. Giving these people jobs, giving these people charity, allowing for them to start a business without the the expense and risks from government regulations. Eliminating the war on drugs, etc. . I believe that it is more just to give those at the bottom a promise of help, using money that has a lower rate of utility from those at the top, than it would for those at the bottom, guaranteeing basic living standards and opportunities for all. Sure, if that's all tax dollars were used for in social welfare, I'd agree with you. However, that is not the case. If welfare and security were the only issues, we'd not have the expenses we do. Welfare could easily be paid with a small amount of tax dollars. Taxing the rich at such high percentages is an excuse to give government more revenue to be thrown away. A progressive tax is overall advantageous to a flat tax rate, which is advantageous to a regressive tax. Advantageous towards almost no one. Corrupt politicians and bureaucrats are pretty much the only ones who benefit from a larger tax percentage on the rich. It gives them votes because the rich vote is not a large one and hey, screw the rich (draft logic for young people), and it allows for them to spend unapologetic on projects that fill the pockets of their friends (union leaders, public works leaders, contracted businesses, banks, etc.) Side: Yes, Tax Everyone The Same
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