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yes it will..! No it will not!!
Debate Score:33
Arguments:26
Total Votes:33
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Increasing trend of privatism in the present education system will close the door for poor

Education and knowledge for sale???

Do you think privatism in education is closing the door of education for the poor???

yes it will..!

Side Score: 15
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No it will not!!

Side Score: 18

Currently poorer neighborhoods tend to have poor education, separating those neighborhoods further from any type of sustainable and affordable education for them isn't going to help improve their situation.

Side: yes it will..!

The education of children, a fundamental human right in my opinion, should not be turned into a competition to see who can make the most money out of it. As much as libertarians would love to, you can't put a price on the life and future of a human being. My life is not a commodity to be bought and sold, it is mine to live to its full potential. "Free market" philosophy has already visibly fucked the American's health care system, with hospitals competing to make profit instead of doing what they should be doing and fulfilling the Hippocratic oath, which, to a person like me who doesn't mind sharing what I have, is sick.

Side: yes it will..!
1 point

The health care system has never been a free market. It has had multiple levels of government intervention since the 1950s.

Side: No it will not!!
anachronist(889) Disputed
1 point

I'm aware of that, and government intervention is the only thing holding America's poor health care system together.

Side: yes it will..!

is it true that private universities are only serving to them those who pay....?

Side: yes it will..!
anachronist(889) Disputed
1 point

That's what private means, a way to keep the poor out and give advantage to the rich.

Side: No it will not!!

As a society, we're not very interested in helping the poor. The counter-argument is the same that capitalist use for everything. Privatization will introduce competition and competition will make the schools better. That's a nice thought for someone living in the suburbs, staring out at their confluence of SUVs and gaited houses. When you have money, you have options. That's the story of America.

Given the choice of building a private school in the suburbs and building a private school in the ghetto, no one in their right mind is going to choose the ghetto. It's the same reason you don't see a lot of other businesses in the ghetto. You don't make an money selling to poor people. So, what happens with privatization is that the suburbs get truly amazing schools (of course they love it), while the ghetto struggles to keep the doors open. The ghetto only becomes a concern again when someone comes along and says that we're going to start busing the ghetto kids out to the suburbs.

And my word! We can't have that shit! So, then the suburb people find Jesus in their heart ---they can really hear the Lord speaking to them---- and the Lord says that they should donate some money to an inner-city school. Momentarily, we feign concern for ghetto kids, but ----really--- we're just trying to keep the cockroaches from scattering and laying their eggs elsewhere.

Side: yes it will..!

The privatism of education will lead toward a snob effect that will leave out the poor.

Side: yes it will..!

The abolition of free markets in education will only lead more into poverty due to the lack of choice.

Side: No it will not!!
anachronist(889) Disputed
1 point

Yeah, it'll make people richer by making them spend more money and lowering job prospects in certain places...

Side: yes it will..!
3 points

Actually, the reverse is true considering government per capita is more than private schools, plus those in the inner cities where there is no school competition but government schools have the worst job prospects. Look at every big city.

Side: No it will not!!
1 point

Increased public education hurts the private sector for they have to compete with a system that has unlimited funds and little accountability.

When the private sector loses customers, they have to increase prices and decrease quality in order to stay in business. People seem to act like the private schools of today would always exist even if we got rid of public education. that is far from the truth. When public education is gone there will be a demand for affordable education. That demand will be met by opportunistic businesses.

As well, a voucher program, proposed by Milton Friedman, would be far less expensive and would give the poor a choice, creating a competitive edge even with a "public service."

Even without vouchers, though, education is accessible in far more ways than just "going to school." The only reason why a college education is "needed" for a job is because so many people are getting college educations (and taking out loans in order to do so.) When education becomes more used, it is expected of the labor force to have more education.

However, if education became private, people would have their own ways of acquiring education while businesses would focus on finding labor based on quality instead of a random degree.

Side: No it will not!!